Amad,

Are we to assume that Mr. Shaikh was recruited by the Canadian government and was compelled to randomly infiltrate a group of people without being subject to any prior suspicion? And on top of that, are you maintaining that not only did Shaikh infiltrate this group, but also was the prime motivator for the group’s intended plot?

They were under suspicion previously, before Shaikh’s involvement, weren’t they?

I’m not going to go too much into it but it keeps coming back to ONE assumption: that I set them up – and for money.

All I can say is this is EASILY proven or not: did Mubin Shaikh MAKE THEM, in any way, do what they would not normally do?

I agree with you: to entrap is Nifaaq no doubt. And I did not entrap, as is my claim.

I am PRAYING the publication ban is defeated so I can say I told you so to the whole community. No one more than me wants this stuff to come out – and any documentary on the subject is SPECULATION.

And to AMAD, I say: you CLAIM you are against terrorism but you again ASSUME I set them up with misinformation – first PROVE this, THEN your conclusion will follow.

Phoning the police and telling on a Muslim is not enough – do you know how many Middle Eastern police states imprison people on simple say-so? Trust me: Muslims are calling the RCMP on other Muslims all the time – but a telephone tip is not evidence (thank Allah)

And WM: I dont care what people think: in my 20+ years of free community work – I have never done things for people’ sake only for Allah’s (as much as is in my ability).

The community looks worse for taking the path of denial so when Muslims stand up and say we are against terrorism – then put our hands in our pockets and heads in the sand when it comes to proving it – we leave OUR mess to the kuffar to clean up.

Thanks, but I dont trust them that much. ;)

And AMAD, I have not gone back on ANYTHING I have said – when asked, I will say the exact same thing as I did before and InshaAllah, the verdicts that follow the case, will reflect just what I said. I answer to NO ONE except Allah. He has made me stronger by helping me overcome a rough time.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see.

May Allah return the Izzah of the Ummah to its rightful place. AMeen.

Lol Mubin you got totally exposed in this vid, you admit to living a life of women, clubbing and drugs, 5 tattoos, 12 self inflicted cigarette burns, spying and then setting up young men to look like terrorists and then drawing attention to the fact.

370 K??? And you admit spending a lot of that tax money on cocaine???!!!

Mubin –

I am still waiting for you at my front doorsteps as you promised.

Remember when you told me you would f*** my face up and land me on a hospital bed?

If not, I can refresh your memory and show others what you wrote to me via private messages.

*sorry I meant conscience not conscious

Jazakallahu khair to everyone who was involved in getting this posted up. As for Brother Mubin, your first post indicates that you are still not clear or confirmed on whether they are guilty or not. Even then, your duty should have been to counsel them or lead them to proper counseling, not draw them into an even bigger mess and ruin their lives and their families’ lives.

Nevertheless, May Allah swt forgive us all for our mistakes and for the wrong we commit to ourselves and our brothers.

And may He forgive us for laying suspicion on our brothers and sisters, and indeed free those who are unjustly oppressed.

Rasheed,

I understand your frustration in regard to Mr. Shaikh. I personally believe the true facts will play out in the trial, but as I can see here, the trial is merely a kangaroo court in yours and other’s eyes.

Regardless of the truth of Shaikh’s involvement from a legitimate standpoint or not, aren’t many already applying their own personal verdict here?

Muby, I had some friends that you sort of screwed over with this whole tirade… not to mention the torment that you put their families through. Would you like to hear what the “guilty” are going through in their solitary confinement?

Didn’t you say yourself somewhere that not everyone in the Toronto 18 is “guilty”? If so, how come you haven’t stood up for the innocent ones?

I just want some answers. Please shed some light on it.

If I’m not mistaken, though, he (Mubin) only got a fraction of that from CSIS, because he disclosed to the media that he was a paid informant for them in the case.

The Wikipedia article on him says he was eventually paid in full, so I stand corrected.

Man you don’t know how many people really hate you Mubin. There are countless brothers who knew those jailed brothers so you have made a lot of enemies. Fear Allah.

Why don’t you try and redeem yourself by getting these brothers out of jail huh? If your so innocent why don’t you prove it?
You won’t. Because your a coward who doesn’t have the courage of righting his wrongs.

The truly sad thing about all of this is that CSIS was stupid enough to do this. We like to think the police are smarter than us but this proves how stupid they really are. They set it up and it was so easy to figure out.

This is what we have protecting Canada so when some real stuff does happen (most likely by non-Muslim terrorists) we got these idiots to protect us.

May Allah help us all.

@Mubin,

Did you come here looking for more gullible youth to trick into phony terror plots so you can earn a new badge from the government?

There is no point in trying to spin your despicable deeds here. We all know what you did to those brothers and now you must accept the consequences of your actions (i.e. being ostracized from the community that you betrayed for some cash for crack).

mmm. I have never heard of you Mubin untill now, well from what I can see is that your claims contradict your actions. If you snitched and sold out muslims to kufaar for the sake of Allah, then why did you receive payment.

However reflect upon your situation and see that now you always need a “sniff”, and that you can’t get a chick unless you got “sniff”, and that evryone only wants to know you when you got “sniff.”

You have been deceived by shaytan Mubin, if you seriously profess Islam, then become a mujahid against yourself and fight your evil desires and craving for this fleeting world. Tell the truth that you entrapped those brothers and repent from the kufr of wala. Mubin if you are sincere then Allah swt will forgive you, for verily Allah swt is the most merciful.

-Edited

4 Questions for you Mr. Shaikh:

1. Did your father sexually abuse a woman who came to ask for advice on her divorce as was alleged here:

“Last year, his father was charged with sexual assault after a woman said she had been fondled by an Islamic chaplain who was supposed to be counselling her through a divorce. The outcome of that case is unknown to The Globe.

When asked about the accusation against his father, whose name is Mohammad Shahied Shaikh, Mr. Shaikh said he didn’t want to discuss it.”

source: Globe and Mail July 14th 2006

http://sonyafatah.com/blog/2006/07/14/the-making-of-a-terror-mole/

Toronto Sun 4/28/2005
http://torontosun.canoe.ca/News/TorontoAndGTA/2005/04/28/1016581-sun.html

2. Did you get the $14 million that you asked the Canadian law enforcement agencies for when you made your request in the media:

[link]

3. Could you care to elaborate on why the charges that you beat up your aunt were dropped?

“…Mr. Shaikh was also once accused of assaulting his aunt and was charged criminally, Mr. Shaikh told The Globe. Those charges were dropped,…”

source: Globe and Mail 7/14/2006

4. Did you threaten 2 Muslim girls when they pointed you out as an informant as is also alleged here:

http://www.mississauga.com/article/3453

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070531.TERROR31/TPStory/National

since you claim that you have done this all for benefitting the community and that your “good name” is being slandered, how does your informing fit in with your past life as well as your actions towards women?

regards,
s

MUBIN SHEIKH -

you sold your deen for the dunya, you sold your deen for some dollars.

these lads were not a threat until you came in, and now you have put them and their family through so much trouble and hardship.

While it is obvious noone is too thrilled with what Mr. Sheikh has done, I think this is an appropriate opportunity to discuss the issue of what to do about domestic terrorism. As Muslims is it o.k. to deliberately spy on and possibly entrap others for the sake of preventing potential acts of terrorism? I think the above responses are an unmistakable no. How about if a Muslim should happen upon information regarding a planned act of terror – or even be involved in the planning of one and develop second thoughts? Perhaps we can agree that the right thing to do would be to inform the authorities? Seems clear to me… what do you think?

Derelict of Dialect,

It is never justified nor productive to entrap people. The very concept of entrapment means that it is you, the informant or agent provacateur who actually encourages people to do or say something they wouldn’t have if it weren’t for you just so you can then charge them with a crime.

If one comes across something that you feel might be something which will be illegal, haraam and harmful to the Muslims then one should first talk to the people involved to clarify whether you are correct or to advise and correct the individuals. Many people, especially young men, can say stupid things out of emotion or to give off a false sense of toughness or just because they think it will make them cool in someone else’s eyes. If someone is just saying something stupid, then to bring in the law enforcement authorities or, as in this case and many like it, to actually encourage them to take other actions which could be crimes, is not beneficial to anyone and is destructive of innocent people’s lives. If you feel you can’t tell whether some people are serious or not, or you are afraid to confront them, then seek out leaders in the community to address the situation. I am not saying one should never contact the authorities, as indeed we all have an interest in preventing any harm to come to our neighbors and the people in the societies in which we live. It would also be incorrect, however, to think that the authorities do not have biases or will always do the right thing or to think that innocent people have not been persecuted and punished by these government agents. Just reason number infinity why it is so important that we have experienced, wise, and muttaqi leadership in our communities who can deal with such situations in the best way possible and who have the trust of the community. Because in addition to the harms that come to the actual innocent people who are unjustly prosecuted, when a community is made to turn against each other and the people no longer trust each other then you have a disaster. The first element of a community of Muslims or non-Muslims is trust. This is why the Prophet (saw) said, “the Muslim is the one from whose hands and tongue the other Muslims are safe.” and He (saw) said “The Muslim is the brother of his fellow Muslim, He neither wrongs (or oppresses) him, nor does he turn him over to one who does him wrong (or oppresses him).

And Allaah (swt) knows best.

Malcolm would’ve called you an “Uncle Tom”

But today you would be called an an “Uncle Ruckus” (youtube search it)

Why have you brought up this topic again, nearly two years after the fact? Every discussion on this topic has been reduced to a constant stream of hatred and takfir.

Faraz,

The documentary just came out and it is part of a larger campaign to grant these brothers justice.

Mubin Shaikh,
you sold your deen for small money

2:174 Indeed, they who conceal what Allah has sent down of the Book and exchange it for a small price – those consume not into their bellies except the Fire. And Allah will not speak to them on the Day of Resurrection, nor will He purify them. And they will have a painful punishment.

wow – kudos to the editor for removing the takfiri comments. I cant believe how people can be so sure that they will die with Imaan that they could afford to pronounce kufr.

Look – there are many views on this and many seem to revolve around the same basic things (they were set up, its all lies, etc) . Some of you are waaaay off (eg. I asked for14 million) and some force me to always look deep inside me to make sure I fear Allah over all.

I am reluctant now to add to my commentary but I have not changed my story from when I first told it. One thing I can GUARANTEE you – is that as more evidence becomes avaliable, people will InshaAllah realize that we have to change the way we champion the Cause. It is preventing people from coming to Allah – and could there be a greater sin?

Going for Umrah in 2007 cleaned me up and I’ve learned (INshaAllah) that praise should not elevate you and insult should not denigrate you. People can hate me or not – they can reserve judgement or they can curse – but they can NEVER say I have not always worked for the benefit of the community.

I wont comment anymore on here – you can read about what I say in court and all I ask you is RECALL the accusations made (esp. against me) and COMPARE with what is reported.

Allah is Waasi’ – Aleem. He is our only recourse when everyone else has run for the hills.

Mubin is scared. LOL He wont reply to me.

Sorry Amad, I didn’t realize the documentary was so recent. My apologies.

I don’t have much to say, really, except that the documentary certainly is damning. I have always been afraid, however, of engaging in the types of discussions (especially on-line) that come out of such stories. I have no sympathy for the informants, and certainly believe that they had ulterior motives (e.g. money).

But until more facts come out, all the death threats, takfeer claims, and jahannam predictions are extremely dangerous for our own souls, and should be avoided no matter how angry we feel. May Allah protect all of us.

May Allah forgive you mubin shaykh, i hope you feel guilty for the rest of your life for these actions.

I’m not gonna judge you, but im only gonna make du’a for your forgiveness.

Please do not delay repentance, (all of you-myself included).

And don’t call these brothers a fruitcake…look at yourself

They can have them locked up, but they don’t have control over their hearts. And in every affair of a believer there is good.

Insha’Allah soon there will be justice for these brothers and their families.

Bismillah

He defends his vile actions and even dares to post ayah in response to what those have said.

let us make duaa’ for our brothers.

-comment edited, for inappropriate personal attacks.

Bismillah,

Your right about editing my post, it was offensive towards dogs, at least a dog has some form of loyalty to its owner and will defend it. Mubin however lacks all these qualities. I had to chuckle at his latest heroics picking on school girls.

The star witness in Toronto’s biggest terrorism case denied terrorizing two 12-year-old girls in a separate incident that brought him to court yesterday afternoon.

Mubin Shaikh, known for infiltrating the alleged cell of 18 suspects, said the girls taunted him with religious and ethnic slurs as he sat in a van on April 3.

“She said, `Look look look, it’s bin Laden, it’s Taliban boy, it’s Taliban boy,’” said Shaikh, who faces two counts of assault and one count of threatening bodily harm. He was in provincial court to schedule his next appearance – July 6.

The charges stem from a bizarre encounter between Shaikh and two students from Kane Middle School, near Keele St. and Eglinton Ave. W.

Police say two girls were returning to class after lunch when Shaikh accused the duo of skipping class. An argument ensued. Shaikh got out and allegedly bumped one girl in the chest and pushed her to the ground. According to police, he then said, “Do you know who I am? I’m going to chop off your legs.”

The other girl yelled at Shaikh to leave her friend alone and Shaikh allegedly grabbed that girl by the jacket and threw her to the ground.

When a group of male students intervened, Shaikh allegedly ripped off his top, threw it to the ground and challenged them to take him on. Police say he then drove off erratically. He was arrested nearby.

But yesterday, Shaikh said there was no physical contact between him and his accusers.

“Their story is fabricated and exaggerated grotesquely,” he said, calling them “troublemakers.”

He said the girls were coming toward his van but when he stepped out they started running away.

“They turned to run and she tripped and fell on her ass, she got hurt, she landed hard,” he said.

Shaikh said these charges have “no relevance,” to his credibility as a witness in the terrorism case.

Defence lawyer Edward Sapiano, who represents one of the accused in the terror trial, says: “It certainly suggests that this star witness has control issues.”

Another defence lawyer in the case, Paul Slansky, said that if Shaikh is guilty of the assault charges, “It’ll adversely impact his credibility” in the trial. Shaikh is scheduled to testify next month at the preliminary inquiry for the 14 adults arrested last summer for allegedly plotting to bomb various targets in Ontario.

http://www.thestar.com/article/228636

How low can you go?

As a white, Canadian non muslim it seems to me that you are all supporters of terrorism. After reading every single post, it is obvious you are mostly consumed in your hatred for this Sheik guy and how he got these guys caught and you do not talk against what those guys were (alleged) to have been up to.

What amazes me is that even after everything I read – he is the one who is most rational and articulate and best of all, he does not even respond in the way you speak. He is obviously more learned than most – I don’t know, I’m just an ignorant professional.

As an outsider, I do not in any way attempt to know the subtleties of your culture or religion. What I can tell you is that Canadians are going to flock to this guy as a real example and so far it seems this guy has the attention of very many more people than you here do and has a real chance to save Islam from the Muslims.

Thank Alla for that!

PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE RULING FOR YOURSELVES.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/09/25/toronto-terror.html look for DOCUMENTS: SPROAT VERDICT. (See #171-183 regarding credibility)

I pray Allah forgives you all for the trash you spoke and opens your eyes to the fact that HE honours whom HE wills.

Assalaamu Alaykum

Sister, don’t assume to know whose Islam is in danger or not – you are not privy to the hearts Allah has created. Seek forgiveness from my mother? Those brothers should be seeking forgiveness from their wives, mothers, daughters, sons, fathers, brothers, uncles, etc. and then to the community. IF they are found guilty – IF you hear their own voices condemn them – then don’t dare point a finger at me.

I sleep much better now knowing that all of you who doubted and denied were indeed, the ones misguided, not I. Sister, I hope you come to realize that the rights of a handful of Muslims do not supersede the rights of the Ummah.

As-salaamu Alaykum

Do you know your heart so well, Mr. Author (so much for your assumption the case was a set-up) that you can guarantee me you will die with Imaan or that I will, without?

Go ahead Ya Hudhayfa ibn al yaman – check the list the Prophet (SallAllahu Alayhi wa Salaam) gave you.

You accused me of kufr, nifaq and irtaad – yet now that you are wrong – you don’t have the Imaan, the dedication to Islam you claim – to even say so. Pathetic khawaarij wahhabi’s.

I do not make the mistake of simply dropping labels, I always address the argument in my responses – and once again, you do not even have the ability to accept that you were WRONG about the basic premise of the arrests; a group plotting existed. So, how do I even begin to answer intelligently, when you do not have the requisite integrity to know where you have been incorrect. You will NEVER catch me doing that. I will own up unlike you. So, your skirting the obvious only makes YOUR argument clumsy, not mine.

As to spying, let me just ask you WHAT you consider as acceptable evidence to prosecute terrorism – or should I ask you first if you are even against terrorism, let alone that it should be prosecuted. Before you frame your answer, consider what the Shariah demands as proof.

Intelligently, you say? LET’S.

Mubin you are a very dangerous person and may Allah save us from people like you. You have done what no one in there right mind would do. Instead of giving them dawah you spied on them and were a wolf in sheep’s clothing. So YES YOU DID SET THEM UP! On top of that you were on the spying payroll! So how can we believe your story.

We cannot trust you after knowing what you have done. You can beat around the bush as much you want but at the end of the day you betrayed the Muslim community and put our young brothers and their families in a lot of distress. You don’t know what is right and wrong. May Allah Save us from you!

Go ahead and inshAllah I will inshAllah support the Rasolullah (sallAllah o alayhi wasallam)’s message.

Also just to inform you, you have no right to call someone Wahhabi because you are taking the name of Allah (AWJ) (AL-WAHHAB) and distorting it,which mind you is a serious crime against Allah(SWT)’s. I strongly protest to the editor and ask that your comments be removed.

This just goes to show your perverted understanding of our beautiful Deen! Let’s not do that Mubeen!

Do you know the origin of the term, Mubeen? The people who did not like Shaykh Abdul Wahhab took that part of his name and started calling him wahhabi. So if they took that part of the name then where is it coming from? It is one of the Names of Allah! So you should understand what I am talking about. Its good you are done with making comments because you refuse to accept your mistake. It is very hard to accept one’s mistake Mubeen but Allah Loves those who accept their mistakes and repent to him. You still have time to make up for your faults.

Oh yeah and for you a good start would be any Al-Maghrib class.

More comments are coming Mubeen so sit back and enjoy the ride!

innalhamdolillah. wa na-udhobillahi min shuroori an fusinaa wa min sayiati amaalinaa. ashhadu al laa ilaha illAllah, laa sharikalahu. wa ashhadu anna Muhammadan-’abduhu wa Rasooluhu, sull Allaho alayhi wa sallam.

indeed, all praise is for Allah. and we seek refuge with Allah from the evils of ourselves and our deeds (sorry, freestyle translation). i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship other than Allah, and no one shares with Him (in what belongs to Him, nor in what is owed to Him, and especially not in any form of worship — all worship is owed to Allah alone). and i bear witness that Muhammad is Allah’s slave and His Messenger, may our supplications to Allah and peace (from Him) be upon him.

as for what follows, i seek refuge with Allah from Satan the rejected. i begin in the Name of Allah, Whose Mercy Exceeds all measure, Who is Always Merciful.

Says Allah in Surah Baqarah:

وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يَقُولُ آمَنَّا بِاللّهِ وَبِالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ وَمَا هُم بِمُؤْمِنِينَ
8:
Sahih International: And of the people are some who say, “We believe in Allah and the Last Day,” but they are not believers.
يُخَادِعُونَ اللّهَ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَمَا يَخْدَعُونَ إِلاَّ أَنفُسَهُم وَمَا يَشْعُرُونَ
9:
Sahih International: They [think to] deceive Allah and those who believe, but they deceive not except themselves and perceive [it] not.
فِي قُلُوبِهِم مَّرَضٌ فَزَادَهُمُ اللّهُ مَرَضاً وَلَهُم عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ بِمَا كَانُوا يَكْذِبُونَ
10:
Sahih International: In their hearts is disease, so Allah has increased their disease; and for them is a painful punishment because they [habitually] used to lie.
وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ لاَ تُفْسِدُواْ فِي الأَرْضِ قَالُواْ إِنَّمَا نَحْنُ مُصْلِحُونَ
11:
Sahih International: And when it is said to them, “Do not cause corruption on the earth,” they say, “We are but reformers.”
أَلا إِنَّهُمْ هُمُ الْمُفْسِدُونَ وَلَـكِن لاَّ يَشْعُرُونَ
12:
Sahih International: Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not.
وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ آمِنُواْ كَمَا آمَنَ النَّاسُ قَالُواْ أَنُؤْمِنُ كَمَا آمَنَ السُّفَهَاء أَلا إِنَّهُمْ هُمُ السُّفَهَاء وَلَـكِن لاَّ يَعْلَمُونَ
13:
Sahih International: And when it is said to them, “Believe as the people have believed,” they say, “Should we believe as the foolish have believed?” Unquestionably, it is they who are the foolish, but they know [it] not.
وَإِذَا لَقُواْ الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ قَالُواْ آمَنَّا وَإِذَا خَلَوْاْ إِلَى شَيَاطِينِهِمْ قَالُواْ إِنَّا مَعَكْمْ إِنَّمَا نَحْنُ مُسْتَهْزِئُونَ
14:
Sahih International: And when they meet those who believe, they say, “We believe”; but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say, “Indeed, we are with you; we were only mockers.”
اللّهُ يَسْتَهْزِئُ بِهِمْ وَيَمُدُّهُمْ فِي طُغْيَانِهِمْ يَعْمَهُونَ
15:
Sahih International: [But] Allah mocks them and prolongs them in their transgression [while] they wander blindly.
أُوْلَـئِكَ الَّذِينَ اشْتَرُوُاْ الضَّلاَلَةَ بِالْهُدَى فَمَا رَبِحَت تِّجَارَتُهُمْ وَمَا كَانُواْ مُهْتَدِينَ
16:
Sahih International: Those are the ones who have purchased error [in exchange] for guidance, so their transaction has brought no profit, nor were they guided.

why mention those verses here? to make takfir? KALLAA, absolutely not. rather to remind us all that if we read these verses and assume they apply to someone else, we may need to take a long hard look in the mirror.

all praise is for Allah. among the mercies of ‘itikaaf: that Allah suppresses from your ears and your eyes news and arguments such as those in this article and in its comments. subhanAllah.

but no matter how sweet the ibadaat, no man can live in the masjid 24/7/12-months for his entire life.

the day comes when you have to walk outside, make eid, laugh and eat with your loved ones and with the people. then, perhaps even while you check what has become a wonderful place to visit — MM :) — you will inevitably see proof of the Wisdom and Mercy of Allah.

Allah admonishes in the Holy Qur’an, al Furqan, the Criterion between truth and falsehood, “fear Allah,” and He extols the believers who have fear of Him. and the Lord of all the worlds, our Creator, the One in Whose Hand are our forelocks — Allah — repeats these reminders in the Qur’an more times than i could count during my ‘itikaaf.

“fear Allah” — the Prophet sull Allaho alayhi wa sallam would say those words a barest-minimum of once a week. he, sull Allaho alayhi wa sallam, whom we would hope would recognize us as believers on the Day of Judgment, he would utter them while speaking on Fridays to the best community of people who has ever lived.

and the sahabah did not merely sit there and admire his beautiful speech — though what i would not give to hear his khutbah just once :) — they did not point fingers at each other and say “he meant you should fear Allah.” no, they humbled themselves, and they took the warnings personally.

among the sahabah who received this reminders, people who would also receive the glad tidings that they were guaranteed jannah. they, especially they, would fear Allah.

why? a person who does not fear Allah will transgress and spread corruption on the earth. think himself a reformer, and will only grow in arrogance. may Allah preserve me and you from becoming lost in that sin. ameen. (please say ameen to that.)

while the person who fears Allah truly know with absolute certainty that Allah will account for every evil deed, even if it is only an atom’s weight, even if it be less than that.

indeed the Qur’an and remembrance of Allah are shields against evil, and supplication to Allah is a weapon against evil and every ill.

and Allah does answer the supplication of the oppressed, so do not commit dhulm against one another, not even in speech.

and especially do not commit dhulm when you outwardly-intend to offer up a good deed — giving sadaqah, or giving your brother correcting-guidance/naseeha, or forbidding what is evil/yanha-alal-munkar. because those could all be the aims of a reformer, and the ayat i quoted speak directly to the self-deluded reformer.

indeed all praise is for Allah, and i seek refuge with Allah from any evil or confusion that my words may cause. and i pray the same for you, and that He will Guide us all. ameen.

and i pray for all the Muslims who read these words or are affected by them, that Allah, Who is ar Rahman and ar Raheem and al Ghaafir adh-dhamb, will overlook and forgive my sins and your sins, my excesses and your excesses. that He will strengthen you and me in our ‘ilm, rizq, and good deeds. and that He will make us among those who succeed in this life and in the next. ameen.

as for what follows, when a just ruler enlists the aid of a subject in a just cause, then it really takes only simple wisdom to see that there is good in it for the subject (assuming no hardships, etc.). so when a hurricane strikes a city, and the local government calls out for volunteers and does not force them to act beyond their means, those who respond are among those who do good.

and someone who deliberately corrupts another person, leads that person into committing a sin, entices them, or provides for them the means to commit sin — that person will share the evil of any committed sin. again, it only requires common sense to see it.

and alhamdolillah, Allah sent those Wisdoms and much better than them in Islam.

when a ruler uses subterfuge to infiltrate what may be just a group of innocent people, maybe there is sin for the ruler and maybe not. i would not presume to judge.

if the ruler then has no reason to believe that an evil action has been done by that group, what else could a just ruler hope to find (and prevent) but the future enactment of a plan to do evil? so perhaps the ruler has to find out if a plan exists. but i would not be the judge of that.

but now consider the ruler who finds no plan for evil in that group. so the ruler’s agent encourages one! through offers of material aid, through suggestions and strategies, through false arguments that try to hide the manifest evil of the plan. in short, using every trick in the devil’s playbook.

how disgusting the actions of such a ruler and such an agent! how self-deluded to call themselves righteous! and after Allah has destroyed all of Creation, and then has resurrected it at His Command, then He will be Judge over all of the deeds of men and jinn.

subhanAllah, Allah is the best among Judges, and if it were not for His Mercy, no one among men or jinn would ever get to Paradise.

so when will we use our reason? when will we fear Allah has He should be feared? when will it be clear from our actions and words that we fear to spread corruption?

and i am the first to be reminded — because i should have been helping my mom get ready for our eid guests tomorrow rather than writing to you now. considering the age of this thread, and the number of comments, a day would not have been that long to wait, would it?

Allahumaghfirlee, wafuanna, waghfirlinaa, waramnaa. ameen.

Amad – you’re still on the same script, that it was treachery, that it was a setup. Is it by sheer repetition alone that your dreams will become reality? No amount of evidence will convince the likes of you – no matter even if you were to have heard their own voices saying what they are accused of – not even if you SAW them on video – you would still deny. There is simply no hope for you!

I waited 2 years to get the validation I did – I can wait one more for the rest!

Lastu kadhiban Ya Aba Abdillah bal sadaqtu! You take advantage of my comment to not comment and then once I leave you start getting uppity with your own comments? Why don’t you stay and face the arguments instead? Cowards. You would gladly celebrate a bombing in the same country in which you live? OR would you simply do what we always do and blame everything away as conspiracy? Have SOME integrity Ya Abi Abdillah

maybe you would be admonished by the words of the kafir, “me thinks thou dost protest too much,” but those words are also false testimony, a misquote.

subhanAllah, if you will not reflect on the verses of Allah, and you will not give pause at the reproval of your brothers in Islam, and you will take moral umbrage and claim the high ground when others see you leaning foolishly over the side of a chasm concocting despicable accusations — “gladly celebrate a bombing,” subhanAllah! what strange twisted distortion of my TWO comments led you to invent that lie and then accuse me of a lack of integrity!? — your words bear witness against you at every turn, and if you returned a thousand times to this page it would likely be no different each time.

my apologies to everyone else for engaging this person. it would have been better of me to ignore his lie altogether, or bid him salaam, and wait for his lie to out in the end.

it’s too bad that the US and Canada do not permit the accused to demand that his accusers and prosecutors both swear to the truth publicly and to invoke publicly the wrath of Allah on the liar between them. verily if people who were accused of crimes, Muslims and non-Muslims alike, could take such an oath of truth and invoke wrath and destruction from Allah on themselves if they lied in their oaths and secured the same from their accusers and prosecutors, then i would be quite content. for my reliance is on Allah.

hasbunAllaho wa naymal wakeel.

and i apologize for the typos in the dua in my first post. it would have better read: Allahumaghfirlee. wafuanna, waghfirlinaa, warhamnaa. ameen.

Mubins reaction is typical of one who knows in their heart they have wronged but who’s arrogance and pride will not them admit, it appears none of you believe his words nor have any time for him. But by abusing him and firing accusations etc (which i fully understand) you are giving him the attention he is craving. He wants fame and fortune as the pay offs prove then why help him to achieve this.

Do not give him the time of day, ignore his futile words and let Allah SWT deal with him, as you know Allah knows what is in the hearts and will deal with him accordingly.

I remind you all Mubin includedl;

Firstly; ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:

A man and a woman will be taken by the hand on the Day of Resurrection and a voice will call out before the first and the last, saying: ‘This is So and so the son of So and so. Whoever has any dues from this man let him come and take his dues,’ and the woman will rejoice if she had any (unfulfilled) right over her father, or over her son, or over her brother, or over her husband.” Then Ibn Mas’ood recited the verse (interpretation of the meaning):

“there will be no kinship among them that Day, nor will they ask of one another”
[al-Mu’minoon 23:101]

Allaah will forgive whomsoever He will with regard to His own rights, but He will not forgive with regard to the rights of other people.

Narrated by al-Tabari in his Tafseer, 5/90.

Secondly: If the one who has been wronged prays against the one who wronged him, he should not go to extremes in that and should not overstep the limits prescribed by Allaah.

Al-Hasan al-Basri said:

He should not pray against him, rather he should say, “O Allaah, help me against him and give me my right from him.”

The best du’aa’ that the one who has been wronged can say is that which was narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him):

It was narrated that Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to say: “O Allaah, make my hearing and my sight strong, and make them my heirs (i.e., keep them strong until I die), and support me against the one who has wronged me, and avenge me.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari in al-Adab al-Mufrad, 1/226; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Adab al-Mufrad.

It was narrated from Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) rarely left a gathering without saying this du’aa’ for his companions: “O Allaah, give us a share of fear of You that will keep us from disobeying You… and grant us revenge over those who have wronged us, and grant us victory over our aggressors.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3502; classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

Thirdly; Even better than that is to forgive and leave the matter of the wrongdoer to Allaah, may He be exalted, on the Day of Resurrection. The one who forgoes his right in this world will take it in abundance in the Hereafter, and his heart will be freed from resentment and grudges.

It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: a blanket of hers was stolen, and she started to pray against the one who had stolen it, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not reduce the burden of his sin.”
Narrated by Abu Dawood, no. 1497; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Targheeb, 2468.

So my advice to all of you is as our beloved Prophet SAW said: “Do not reduce the burden of his sin.”

Yasir Kadhib – you SAY you are against terror but in FACT you are not. And you THINK its because of a guilty conscience I comment? LOL…vey funny. Maybe that’s what you have to tell yourself to feel better, I accept that.

BUT that you would not accept the evidence of a court that has been privy to wiretaps, audio and video — tells me that there is NOTHING you take as proof, which allows you to conveniently deny and dismiss at every turn. You say that its because the judge is a western official but if the Kafir says 1 + 1 = 2, will you deny that also? UNBELIEVABLE.

EVEN if a Shariah court made the same pronouncement you would STILL deny. Deaf dumb and blind…

You say you have doubt as to the abilities and intent of the accused – WHAT first-hand knowledge do you have in this regard that you think you can say this?! You don’t THINK they could – but what do you KNOW. C’mon, you think you’re a Shaykh – give me some EVIDENCE for your position – didn’t they teach you ANYTHING @ Medina U??

Finally, just to show how (once again) you are so totally ignorant of the situation that you think you have ANY ability to speak against me: people did not “find out” about me – I revealed EVERYTHING about myself, the case did not go bad for me at all, rather its gone REAL bad for your people.

Will you answer the questions I have asked Yasir?

Yasir:

- Doubt and skepticism – to what end? Delusion?

- With respect to events, what “knowledge of the unseen” to you – is an eye-witness account to me and while I am pained at the families’ suffering, I put the blame on their kin, whose own hands sent forth what they did. One of those teenagers THANKED me for helping them – his two friends also wanted to meet and thank me. Perhaps Allah is putting them in this in exchange for forgiveness in the aakhira. I pray that is the case.

– My tone will reflect what is meted out to me.

Mubin

Br. Mubeen

“Guilty Consious always pricks the mind”

Mubin,

I have never heard of you and until today always thought that these men even though innocent played with fire and have been stupid. But finding this webste has changed my mind. They were set up and that’s really sad that you and the other men have sold your brothers and distroyed their life for no real reason.

They had no weapons, were training and the gun you brought is the only gun (I read on this wesbite). Do you want to join the opportunists who jumped on the boat of after Sept 11 and make money of the misery of your brothers?

If you really meant well, why didn’t you advise them? They were not criminals, they were young men with clean pasts. Also, learning how to fight and train is a duty of all Muslims as is knowing how to swimm and how to hunt. It is the basics of survival.

You said in one of your message that you went to Umrah and thus must be cleaned of whatever sin? But you can’t be cleaned of the wrong you did to others until you bring justice and correct your mistake and not until you ask them for forgiveness.

Your personal sins are between you and Allah but the wrong you did to others, you will need to fix it and to ask for their forgiveness for Allah to forgive you. Indeed Allah forgive who He Wills but any Muslim know the distinction between the two different sins.

Brother, you are probably not happy to make other family suffer like this, why not correct what you did? You don’t have a good reputation anyway so you won’t lose an excellent reputation but you will seen as an honest man if you repair the mess you did with the other man Wajid Khan.

You said you love Canada and was born in Toronto thus don’t want anything bad to happen here. Well then, stop using our tax money and put young Canadians in jail!

Please DO something good Now!

Mubin: MashaAllah you have done a very good job at responding. I knew of you a long time ago, before you got famous! When I heard the case happening in 2006 and saw you on tv, I thought you must have thought about this in depth. I have seen you work in the community through the masjids in Toronto – you have always defending the deen (p.s. I was there at medina mosque when you debated the missionaries who came) – you always had the answers and after the court ruling recently, Allah has indeed honoured you above what the others have claimed. Seriously, you have done us a great favour by catching these guys and bringing them to justice – only Allah knows what would have happened to all of us in Toronto if 1) something happened and 2) you went into hiding and all of us would be ignorant of who helped the govt. – you have preserved our honour and I thank you from my heart. w’salam TA

Just to show you how EXACT I am – if you go all the way to the earlier posts, you will see how I have addressed this issue already from the beginning. I understand how you must feel: so many invested so much in the entrapment myth, in the conspiracy myth and now ALL of you have to admit that you were WAAAAAY off.

However, what is TRULY mind boggling is how a guy who has NO facts, NO proof whatsoever, NO knowledge of court proceedings…is gonna tell the COURT (that DOES have the facts, DOES have the proof and PROVIDES the knowledge that results from proceedings) what the reality of the situation is!

Dude – can you really be THAT delusional? Everybody tells me not to waste my time arguing with people like you who are SO blinded by their myth – but I am really trying to understand how you can STILL repeat the very same things you’ve been saying for months now ESPECIALLY after one guilty verdict, one no-entrapment ruling and one guilty plea from one of the participants in the bomb plot.

What does it take I wonder? Seriously.

hey mubin the youth is out. and the star says the judge quoted what you said about him. i am confused very much – how do you know so much about everything – who else is getting out? that why you did not come to court yesterday? you know he was walking? HOW?