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Sialkot, Pakistan: Two Muslim Boys Murdered by Mob in Broad Daylight During Ramadan – Moral Decadence at its Lowest!

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بسم اللّٰہ الرحمٰن الرحیم

15th September 2010 – today marks a month since the occurrence of a heart-wrenching incident that took place in Sialkot, Pakistan; an incident that has the whole Pakistani nation aghast with shock and horror up till now.

It was the 4th day of the holy month of Ramadan when two teenaged brothers, Mugeeth and Muneeb, decided to leave the house to go play cricket after eating the pre-dawn meal, Suhoor i.e. they were fasting. En route to the ground on their motorbike, it is alleged that they happened to pass by an angry mob that had gathered in protest to a local burglary in which a fleeing dacoit had shot and killed an innocent man. The angry mob was in desperate search of the guilty dacoits. Someone from the crowd pointed at these two brothers and claimed that they were the dacoits.

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What followed was an atrocious “gang crime”, the absolutely shocking and decadent nature of which, cannot be adequately described in words.

The two brothers were beaten up by the area people in broad daylight, with metallic and wooden sticks, as the mob watched and some members of the passive “audience” decided to whip out their cell phones and make videos. The people beating them up included everyone from older men to minor boys, as the videos recorded by the witnesses standing nearby clearly show.

Some of the crowd can be seen urging the enraged perpetrators to continue beating them up, ignoring their pleas for mercy and help. The bloodied boys were completely at the mercy of the crowd, which included some policemen and also the area DPO.

As if this slander and subsequent cold-blooded murder of these two innocent boys was not enough, after they had died, their bodies were tied up, hung from poles in the open ground where a large crowd of the area people was still gathered, and later on paraded on a pickup truck for the entire city’s population to see.

I have personally watched the gruesome videos that are available on youtube before writing this. I can testify that indeed, the police were there when this 2-hour long incident took place in broad daylight, in addition to a large number of passive onlookers who let the horrific crime continue unabated. According to reports, Rescue 1122 had been summoned but it was unable to save the injured older brother Muneeb, who sustained his injuries long after his younger brother succumbed to them and died, from the mob that would just not let up beating him up with sticks and stones.

The different facets of this incident that come to light are indeed appalling to analyze:

  1. Even if the actual dacoits had been caught, and even if one of them had been a murderer, it would still not have been justified for the enraged mob to kill them with their bare hands in the slow, torturous, deliberate way that they killed these two brothers. The area people took the law in their own hands, so to speak, as the spineless, “official law enforcers” watched on the sidelines as passive spectators.
  2. It is obvious that whoever even thought of stopping this crime, and tried to, was either scared of the enraged, violent mob, or pushed away and overpowered by it. Nevertheless, something concrete could have been done to stop the brutal beating during the 2 hours it was allowed to continue. Yes, it was allowed to continue by the hundreds who knew it was going on and did nothing.
  3. People in positions of authority could have been notified and effective means such as tear gas or aerial firing of blanks could have been used to disperse the angry hundreds who were murderously descending upon the two youths. These means have been effectively used by the Pakistani law enforcers in the past to disperse crowds of miscreants that almost always appear out of nowhere the minute some mishap takes place. However, nothing similar was done.
  4. The reason why slander is a major sin (one of the kabaa’ir al-ithm in Islam) becomes painfully apparent by this incident. Whoever slandered these two boys, for whatever reason, is guilty for their murders, fair and square. The mob was already in a murderous rage when these two showed up to see what was going on. Whoever slandered them knew what would happen to them when they pushed them under the bus.
  5. Sadly, the one reason why this incident has gained so much media attention is because it was public and recorded on video. Otherwise, these two innocent boys’s deaths would have been silently ignored just like those of the scores who are killed daily in Pakistan over trivial domestic issues, tribal violence stemming from personal revenge, crimes based on political and ethnic rivalry, and issues related to so-called family honor in which women and girls are chopped to bits or slaughtered in a fit of rage. In lower-class, rural and poverty-ridden Pakistan, away from the glamor and glitter of the educated urban elite and the progressive corporate world, murdering someone is as easy as one-to-three. Trigger-happy people kill at the slightest pretext. Yes, even though it may be hard to swallow at first, but it really is akin to a jungle in some areas.

What we need to remember is that public lynching and other such crimes should not, however atrocious they might be, entice us to give such free reign to our tongues that we start broadly cursing, abusing, and invoking Allah against all and sundry.

We have to keep one positive thing in mind: that the two boys can indeed be hoped to have died as martyrs, not just because they were fasting when they were killed, but because they were lynched by a barbaric mob for committing no crime at all. Also, as the neighbors, family members and others who knew them have testified, they were decent, pious boys from an honorable family who never did anyone any harm. One of them, the older one, was even a hafidh of Quran, as his mother has admitted to the media.

The evidence for the fact that we can hope their death to be considered martyrdom is this hadith of Sahih Al-Bukhari:

It was narrated that Anas ibn Malik said: The Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) climbed up Uhud, accompanied by Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthman, and the mountain shook with them. He struck it with his foot and said: “Stand firm, O Uhud, for there is no one on you but a Prophet or a Siddeeq or two martyrs.” [Al-Bukhari 3483]

We know how the Caliphs `Umar and `Uthman were killed – unlawfully, for committing no crime; one of them by a mob of rioters. They were among the few companions who were given the glad tidings during their lives, of being admitted to Paradise in the Hereafter.

You may choose to watch the gruesome video of the lynching here, and the subsequent dishonoring of their bodies here, at your own discretion (youtube log in required). Faint-hearted and sensitive readers are requested not to watch these two videos. This is a real-life crime caught on tape; it can really affect you adversely.

When I first heard of this incident, I thought of their martyrdom and how they were indeed chosen by Allah for supreme honor in the Hereafter. However, what their families have gone through and the pain that they will continue to experience for years to come is unimaginable – it is indeed a major trial of their faith and steadfastness on being pleased with Allah’s decree. The women of the family have not kept silent and have spoken to the media openly.

I was reminded of Ibrahim [عليه السلام] as a young lad and how an angry, murderous mob comprising of his own father and community, first prepared a fire to burn him in, then deliberately threw him into it, just because he had dared to break their idols in their absence. Another incident that comes to mind is that of the the third Caliph of the Muslim ummah, Uthman Bin `Affan, who was besieged in his house by a mob of rioters and eventually got martyred because he refused to raise his sword against them, even to defend himself.

As for these two brothers, they laid down their lives in this gruesome incident that will serve as a graphic and painful reminder for us all – the Pakistani nation as well as the rest of the world – to the glaring truth: that when moral decadence reaches its lowest low, human beings become even worse than the lawless animals in a jungle.

ثُمَّ رَدَدْنَاهُ أَسْفَلَ سَافِلِينَ

Then do We abase him to the lowest of the low;” [Quran 95:5]

May Allah be pleased with Muneeb and Mugeeth, and grant them martyrdom and supreme honor in the Hereafter. May He grant patience in its most superlative form, sabr jameel, to their grieving family. Ameen.

Please take a moment to pray for the boys and their bereaved family.

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Sadaf Farooqi is a postgraduate in Computer Science who has done the Taleem Al-Quran Course from Al-Huda International, Institute of Islamic Education for Women, in Karachi, Pakistan. 11 years on, she is now a homeschooling parent of three children, a blogger, published author and freelance writer. She has written articles regularly for Hiba Magazine, SISTERS Magazine and Saudi Gazette. Sadaf shares her life experiences and insights on her award-winning blog, Sadaf's Space, and intermittently teaches subjects such as Fiqh of Zakah, Aqeedah, Arabic Grammar, and Science of Hadith part-time at a local branch of Al-Huda. She has recently become a published author of a book titled 'Traversing the Highs and Lows of Muslim Marriage'. For most part, her Jihad bil Qalam involves juggling work around persistent power breakdowns and preventing six chubby little hands from her computer! Even though it may not seem so, most of her time is spent not in doing all this, but in what she loves most - reading.

56 Comments

56 Comments

  1. Hassan

    September 15, 2010 at 1:17 PM

    I am just surprised why it took so long for muslimmatters to write anything about it. People can also search youtube for interview with children’s grand father.

    Frankly it is way more worse than “Saudi family putting nail in their maid”. Muslimmatters wrote article about an alleged crime which is disputed, while here we have two young children being killed by angry mob witnessed by whole town, being video recorded, police standing on side and letting it happen, and no one in government at any level bothered to take any action. May Allah bless and keep Chief Justice Iftikhar Choudary who happened to somehow watch the video, and ordered government to take action.

    • amad

      September 15, 2010 at 2:51 PM

      Well, we took so long, because our focus is more on Muslims in the West.

      • Hassan

        September 15, 2010 at 6:53 PM

        The maid incident was not in west.

        • HassanAdnan

          September 15, 2010 at 11:35 PM

          Assalam O Alikum brother Amad, that was a very sad reply to a very legitimate question.

          • AsimG

            September 17, 2010 at 4:50 PM

            There’s only so many writers on MM to cover these topics.

            They are always taking submissions so if there is ever a subject that needs to be covered, then insha’Allah write about it and submit it.

            We can’t expect them to cover ever indecent act in the East when their main focus is on Muslims in the West.

            And rest assured, there are MANY travesties happening in the Muslim world that nobody is covering.

      • farhanQ

        September 17, 2010 at 7:59 AM

        agreed. pretty disappointing to hear that response to a well articulated question.

        yes we understand what is the “mission” and yes we’ve read responses like “you are more than welcome to submit your writeup on the topic to us” but in this case better to not respond than to be dismissive.

        Allah knows best.

        • Amad

          September 17, 2010 at 2:30 PM

          Dudes, that was a matter of fact statement, not an opinion or dismissive. Let’s not make more out of every statement than what it reads. We will get to issues in the West much more often than issues in the East, naturally due to a combination of where writers are based and our focus.

  2. Syed Junaid

    September 15, 2010 at 1:20 PM

    I suggest to everyone not to watch the video it is to much bear. Really a low point for Pakistanis that two of our young boys can be killed for no reason at all infront of a mob of people who are not willing to do anything and just watch. Was extremely angry and sadden after watching this and then depressed thinking about 2 boys parents and family. The older brother who was a Hafiz and lead the Taraweeh prayer the night before he was beaten to death. May Allah bless them both with Jannah and give there parents patience.

    • Qas

      September 15, 2010 at 8:13 PM

      I suggest to everyone not to watch the video it is to much bear.

      Ditto. My dad (tough as nails, MashaAllah) watched it and couldn’t get it out of his head for a few days.

      • Abeer Khan

        September 18, 2010 at 1:08 AM

        (I suggest to everyone not to watch the video it is to much bear.)

        Although I have not watched the actual video myself, I discourage everyone not to watch it because even the censored one (aired on television) was difficult to bear and I felt like throwing up. Even looking at the picture in this article is painful. But one of my friends dared to watch it on youtube and was so affected by the torture that she could not attend school the next day. It is truly a horrendous crime, and I pray and hope all the time, that Allah may have lessened their pain during their death, for the Prophet (pbuh) has said, “When a Muslim dies as a Martyr, gives his life for the will of Allah, the pain that he suffers is like the bite of an ant.” (Tirmidhi)

  3. kaschif

    September 15, 2010 at 2:11 PM

    Salaam,

    This is what happens when you have vigilante justice and mob rules… As it is the Sunnah to leave it up to the authorities to take action even if it’s gonna take longer. The evidence being of bringing to justice before avenging is Uthman’s Radee Allaho Anho’s assassination, Ali and Mu’awiyyah disputed. Ali wanted to establish law and order and bring them to justice and Rasul sallaho alayhe wsalaam said he was correct. For a presidential assassination, law and order needs to be first establish before vigilante revenge takes place, and we as those holding on to the Sunnah must realize this no matter which dispute happens where.

    So what about a robbery and a murder at the ‘aamm level.

    WaAllaho Alim, this is sad, May Allah forgive those who died, and forgive those Muslims who’s innocent blood is on their hands. They should all repent, and ask for forgiveness from the boy’s families as well as those who stood by and watched, as well as pay any blood money or what ever justice the family requests of them.

  4. l.mirza

    September 15, 2010 at 4:35 PM

    well, MM always has been silent on atrocities in Pakistan and in other ISlamic countries; instead focusing on micky mouse issues in US and Europe.

    This si not the first time they ahve not written anything about the gross violence being inflicted on the peopel of Pakistan and otehr palces by the “pure” wahabis.

    There were three mass murders in mosques during Friday prayers, numerous killings of Shia and Ahmadoiyas, numerous killings of kauffrs.. And yet, the ebacon of Muslism, MM, never uttered a word.

    And they are all gangbusters when burqua is banned in France or when minarets cannot be constructed in Denmark.

  5. Tabman

    September 15, 2010 at 5:31 PM

    I suggest MuslimMatters stick to writing about islamic knowledge, quranic/hadith exegesis, dawah material etc. These type of news we can always get from media and those who are equipped with islamic knowledge can ponder upon it. I’m personally interested in learning more about islam through muslimmatters. I hope no one takes my comment as offensive :)

    • Syed Junaid

      September 15, 2010 at 6:17 PM

      no offense at all brother but this is why i love MM because it talks about variety of subjects and topics that has an Islamic twist. Stories like these ones are eye opening and gives us a chance to reflect.

    • MW_M

      September 15, 2010 at 6:33 PM

      I never heard about this in the media, the first place I heard it was MuslimMatters.

  6. Kashif

    September 15, 2010 at 6:30 PM

    I think that the video of the dishonouring of the bodies should not be linked to. At least save some honour of these two youth by not publicising the dishonouring of their corpses.

  7. Hassan

    September 15, 2010 at 7:05 PM

    Ever since this incident happened, few thoughts immediately came to my mind, and I shared them with my friends, and I wanted to write an article about it and send to muslimmatters, but could not think of good way of putting it, without getting attacked from “khwarji minded keyboard jihadists”

    How is it related to them? Let me write in next comment.

    • Abu Hadeed

      September 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM

      What on earth are you on about?

      Who are these “khwarji minded keyboard jihadists” you talk about?

      Are they the Muslims in the west who support the Mujahideen and Jihad? I hope not!

      I am getting tired of these modernists who wear the cloak of Islam yet rip our religion to shreds so its acceptable to the west.

      There are many lessons to learn from the Sialkot murders and brother Siraaj expanded on a few.

      Another one is that it is an honour for the believers to get lynched to death in path of Allah, we should aspire to that level of eeman when we are happy to sacrifice our lives for the sake of Allah Azza wa Jalla.

      Sa’id bin al-Musayyab narrated:

      “On the day of Uhud, ‘Abdullah bin Jahsh said: “O Allah! I swear to you that we will meet the enemy, and if we do so, they will kill me, then, they will tear open my stomach, then, they will mutilate my body. Then, if I meet You, You will ask me: “For what purpose did this happen?” Then, I will say: “This was for Your Sake!”

      So, he met the enemy and was killed, and they did to his body exactly what he said they would do to it.”
      Sa’id bin al-Musayyib then said: “I hope that Allah makes the last part of his oath come true just as He did for the first part of it.”

      May Allah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem give al-firdous to Muneeb and Mughees.

      • Hassan

        September 16, 2010 at 7:15 AM

        Read my comment below

  8. Hassan

    September 15, 2010 at 8:48 PM

    What happened in Pakistan is slap on face of people like Awlakis and those who follow them. This incident reflects the failure of islamic organizations/parties/groups/movements in Pakistan.

    If you ask people who beat those kids or who watched and approved (one politician also defended it), they say because these kids were dacoit. People have been watching religious groups taking law and order in their own hands fighting “taghoot” and also encouraged by likes of Anwar-al-Awlaki. To them guilty is when they think people are guilty and there is no shame in taking care of matters themselves.

    The mob mentality in these people are common. Ofcourse religious parties would have condemned these killing of kids, but they do not condemn when they go and burn shops because of the shop owner is selling haraam (as they allege, and convict in real time),.

    • suhail

      September 16, 2010 at 9:10 AM

      With all due respect your comment do not make any sense whatsoever. These kinds of things happen quite a bit in that part of the country. You just seem to see it because somebody recorded it and posted it on you tube.

      Are you going to blame Al-Awlaki for the hindu mobs kiling muslims in India or the honor killings happening in Pakistan. There are ton of people who opressed and few of them get killed badly in that part of the world.

      Blaming Al-Awlaki for all the bad in the world is totally non-sensical.

      • Hassan

        September 16, 2010 at 10:28 AM

        Salaam. I may have not put my thoughts eloquently, but what I am trying to say that in a muslim country, where majority are muslims, this thing should be last thing to happen (one individual killing another is something else, but whole society killing 2 children because they are sure they committed a crime is different).

        And my question is, why this thing is common in Pakistan? Sometimes not killing, but beating very badly. There are incidents when an individual to avenge a grudge against another individual, spread the rumor that the guy burned Quran, and that was it, whole village beat him. Similarly the tactic is used that someone has defame prophet Muhammad (PBUH), and people start to beat the guy/people.

        The people who should have highest level of morality would be religious dawah organizations. When ordinary people see them doing same thing, killing people for whatever excuse they have, killing the police and military, or organization with less power, just burning shops and trying to close them because they accuse them of spreading evil (and it could be definitely a case that those shops were spreading corruption), and then taking care of things themselves, then they think it is morally right thing to do as well for them.

      • Hassan

        September 16, 2010 at 10:30 AM

        I am not blaming him for all evil oppression, I am blaming him and his likes to promote idea among people that it is ok to punish people themselves.

        • suhail

          September 17, 2010 at 10:15 AM

          You just don’t know that part of the world otherwise you would not have been blaming him for this.

          For your kind information I dont think majority of the Pakistani’s even know who Al-Awlaki is forget being inspired by him.

          Secondly in a nation i.e. Pakistan where people are being killed in broad day light for a cell-phone which only costs 1200 rupees or 500 rupees what are you expecting.

          As i said before these kind of things are not rare in that part of the world. If you have a accident in India or Pakistan the public beats you up rather than asking for paying money for damages.

          • Hassan

            September 17, 2010 at 3:24 PM

            Salaam brother Suhail. I am quite familiar with that part of world, and yes they have not heard of him, but that was not the point.

            Point is the mentality that he has, shared by some british extremist muslims, is also shared by religious organizations in that part of world, and by common people.

            These things are not rare, (actually this severe incident may be rare though), but the point is who is there to have moral authority to correct these people? It should be the religious groups, yet they are the ones who are doing it as well.

          • Suhail

            September 17, 2010 at 4:15 PM

            Waliakum Salam Brother,

            The reason for that is not because they are being inspired by religious groups. There are legitimate demands from the religious groups for years about implementing shariah in the country but other than paying lip service the administration did nothing. That is why you have seen some groups uprising in Pakistan.

            That is not some vigilante action but rather they see it as the principle of removing munkar with there own hands and demanding for Shariah to be the law of the land. Equating them to this mob is quite a far fetched idea on your part. You cannot compare oranges and apples.

            Secondly the law and order situation in Pakistan is quite bad. India is also in the same ball park. When the people are tired of Police not doing anything to reign in the thieves and dacoit on the contrary they are one with them what are people supposed to do. It is basically called the breakdown of society since the protectors of the society has joined hands with the culprits.

            This kind of mob beating is a usual occurence in that part of the world this time they went too far and killed the boys. Somebody taped it and you saw it. Otherwise there must be many such incidents where mobs will beat people up for one reason or the other. It may result in death or hospital trip but it happens quite often.

            India has many cases of riots which can be deemed as vigilante action on the part of the people who started it. But what about those who are repelling the attacker. They have to fight because the Police is not doing there work.

            I hope you get my point.

    • Mansoor Ansari

      September 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM

      Totally ridiculous comment… I have been witnessing such acts occur in India (my home country) since I was a kid… the mob doesn’t belong to any religion! The mob comprises of ppl who have lost hope in the justice system & r desperate!

      I have seen mobs beat up thieves in India while cops watch, the cops told to kill him but some sane man stopped them. But the thieve had killed anyone then he sure would have ended up dead! If u r in car accident & if it’s ur fault and u also happen to b the wealthier than the victim then the mob will surely beat u up… u will not end up dead as long as the victim is not dead… why does the mob react this way? In all these the cases the wealthier party will bribe the cops & get away with the crimes they commit… so the only chance that one has to get justice is on the scene by beating u up! The justice system is that broken in developing nations.

      I have bribed cops & got away with things when in trouble… so i know it happens!

      And when it comes to robbery takes place it’s completely useless to complain to the cops. If ur house is robbed, no cops will come to ur place if u call them, they will probably laugh at u first & then swear at u if u tell them do so (unless u r some filthy rich dude with political connections). If u want the cops to even try to investigate a robbery then u need to pay them a bribe and if & when they manage to catch him, they let him go after taking a bribe from him. Then they call u to come take ur stuff if anything is still left & yes u need to bribe them again to take back possession of ur stuff. So the avg citizens only gets more frustrated & doesn’t bother going thru the legal process as it will fail him again.

      Once again I m not condoning such behavior but letting u know why this happens as ppl r being super judgmental. When cops stand & watch the mob go rampant, u can imagine how incompetent the judicial system is. Get rid of root causes if one wants to eliminate such behavior. “Do not look where you fell, but where you slipped.”

      • Hassan

        September 16, 2010 at 10:44 AM

        Right, its failure of judicial system as well.

        Question is, would you kill or beat a person if you would be following Islam? And unfortunately those who claim to be following islam do the same things in name of religion, the mob is not always non-religious, there are religious motivated mobs as well, the people who should be teaching restraint and respect of authority are the first ones to beat people.

        • Mansoor Ansari

          September 16, 2010 at 11:49 AM

          I agree with u…

          We r blessed to b living in countries whr the judicial system works and most have no idea what life is like in those countries… what makes one so desperate to indulge in irrational acts? One can relate to or comprehend it only if u lived in such countries as an adult (n i m talking abt going on vacations). It’s man eat man world, n sadly the situations r so miderable that the only way to get anything done is do it urself or go to local goons to get justice…

          My grandfather fought against the British colonizers…. the British govt did claim to the legitimate govt, was my grandfather a evil guy for doing so? Atleast that’s what i get from ur post!

          • Hassan

            September 16, 2010 at 2:36 PM

            All I know is there are people in Pakistan that shut down schools for girls, beat the female teachers, kill the parent of teacher who protest the treatment, execute punishments from right and left claiming somebody violated “the shariah”.

            Those people should be teaching quran and hadith and help change people so that eventually society should be changed.

        • Taimoor

          September 16, 2010 at 2:38 PM

          Actually, these people were not driven by religion but lack of security. You are twisting the facts to make a point that FYI wasn’t registered.

          • Hassan

            September 16, 2010 at 3:22 PM

            The mob was not religiously motivated this time, but the religiously motivated mobs are leading by example

          • suhail

            September 17, 2010 at 10:21 AM

            Hassan you really do not get it. Nobody is leading them. It is the way people react there. This time those poor boys got killed but most of the time when you are beaten by a mob you are either in a hospital or lying on a bed with injuries in your house.

            You have not lived in that part of the world that i can see from your comments. So please do not put a paint on the incident which was not there.

          • Hassan

            September 17, 2010 at 3:27 PM

            Suhail, I know the people, and I have listened to “religious” people who re-iterate what they have heard from the leaders and scholars, and they do not find anything wrong with enforcing of things that they do not have authority of.

          • Suhail

            September 17, 2010 at 4:25 PM

            Can you give us some examples of that please.

  9. Mozlem

    September 15, 2010 at 9:44 PM

    Very sad.

    This is what happens when emotions overcome reason. Even sadder is the thought that these animals are related to muslims in anyway. Ya Allah, grant Munib and Mughees the status of martyrs, sabr to their family and due justice.

  10. Brother

    September 15, 2010 at 10:21 PM

    Its so sad that the police officers were there and allowed this whole thing to happen. Perhaps they are used to accusing innocents of crimes and doing the same thing to them in jails as this mob did in broad daylight and as a result thought nothing of it.

    The people who did this to the brothers are on video, can’t they be prosecuted for this? I say that we should all write to the Pakistani consulate in the US and demand justice for these brothers instead of just expressing our frustrations on this post.

    • Syed Junaid

      September 16, 2010 at 3:21 PM

      everyone from police and the ppl beating the boys have been caught. If you go on fackbook and put the brothers name you’ll find constant updates on the court case.

  11. Justin

    September 16, 2010 at 2:36 AM

    La Ilaha Illa Allah, Muhammad Rasool Allah. May Allah forgive the Muslims for not living up to Islam.

    Daily Hadith Online

  12. Ibn Masood

    September 17, 2010 at 7:28 AM

    This is what happens when ‘Islam’ is your culture and not your deen.

  13. Middle Ground

    September 17, 2010 at 9:24 AM

    Salam

    This is Pakistan. Why is anyone surprised (sickened, yes but surprised)? Has anyone (especially those who claim that living in the west is haram) ever stopped to think about why so many people in muslim majority countries can’t wait to get the hell out of there? Everyone knows that there is no justice in Pakistan. I mean good grief, look at Mai Mukhtar! She had to get out of Pakistan for anyone to even think about getting her justice.

    We all (myself included) criticize the USA a lot, but recently a drunk guy attacked a muslim taxi driver. That guy is not going to get away with it.

    And let’s leave Islam out of this, this has nothing to do with Islam.

    • Syed Junaid

      September 17, 2010 at 11:28 AM

      i totally agree with you brother. We are very lucky to be living in the states.

      • saleh

        September 21, 2010 at 3:20 AM

        so what are you doing with your “luck” living in usa? how much of your life is dedicated for dawah? how do you really show your appreciation for what Allah has bestowed upon you? these are questions for you to contemplate and ponder upon, no need to reply….it is easy to say you are lucky living in usa but on the other hand you have a huge responsibility also…

        • Syed Junaid

          September 22, 2010 at 2:58 PM

          bro how would you know what Im do regarding dawah. Homey look at first what i said then think about how you are going to respond. Everybody should’nt have to point out everything they do for Islam or for this deen to be lucky. Its in the heart. And yes we are lucky living in the states. The Pakistan Government wouldnt even have responded if this horrible and horrific act wasnt caught on tape. So I suggest you keep your comments to your self.

    • Ify Okoye

      September 17, 2010 at 2:03 PM

      It has often been said that there is more justice in so-called western lands than in some so-called Muslim countries.

  14. Elham

    September 17, 2010 at 11:13 PM

    Inna lillahi wa inna illayhi raj’ioon,

    What on earth are those with the vid-cams and cameras doing,I never understand how when there is an atrocity occurring and there is always a bunch of people taking snapshots on the sidelines like its movie.

    If a few good people -at the least-do not prevent evil/mischief in the land ,then a punishment that could reach them for not forbidding it,may Allah protect us :

    “And fear the Fitnah (affliction and trial) which affects not in particular (only) those of you who do wrong”
    [al-Anfaal 8:25]

    And:

    “Those among the Children of Israel who disbelieved were cursed by the tongue of Dawood (David) and ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary). That was because they disobeyed (Allaah and the Messengers) and were ever transgressing beyond bounds.

    They used not to forbid one another from Al-Munkar (wrong, evildoing, sins, polytheism, disbelief) which they committed. Vile indeed was what they used to do [al-Maa’idah 5:78]

    May Allah enter them into His Jannah and make this a way of purification for their family and friends and bring some good out of their calamity.Ameen.

    Wallahu ‘Alam

  15. Shafkat

    September 18, 2010 at 3:07 AM

    As salaam alykum,

    Inna lillahi wa inna illayhi raj’ioon.

    A pity and a shame for ALL Pakistani’s and Muslims worldwide.

    Remember and contemplate…. If you are not a part of the solution, then you are a part of the problem….

    Pak (pure) istan ! or in other words .. ‘The land of the pure !’…
    What a noble intention of the founding fathers of this once beautiful nation!

    For ‘purity’ to come out, the ‘filth’ has to be burnt away first .. Is this the fate of our brothers and sisters in this now doomed nation? (For surely the ‘innocent’ will also get dragged into this ‘purification’ process).

    Please pray for our brothers and sisters in Pakistan and everywhere else in the world where Hisb-us-Shaitaan has taken over from Hisb-ul-ALLAH.

    ‘Lo! Allah changeth not the condition nor the condition of a folk until they (first) change that which is in their hearts’ ( part of Surah-tul-Ra’d verse 11 )…

    Ma asalaam.

  16. Wael - IslamicAnswers.com

    September 19, 2010 at 1:23 AM

    I really feel despair for Pakistan sometimes. This nation has so much potential, so many great intellects, but is steadily trending toward chaos and the title of “failed state”. I wonder if Pakistan’s dire situation (terrorism, domestic violence, tribal wars, poverty, corruption) is the result of corrupt hearts, or sinister outside influences working to destabilize the country, or a combination of the two.

    Incidents like this one are what happen when the rule of law does not exist. Mobs take the law into their own hands when they have no faith in the system of justice, and when they do not fear the law. I don’t see this as a religious issue, but as yet another milestone on the road to utter legal and governmental failure.

    May Allah grant those two boys Jannah, and comfort the hearts of their families.

  17. Brandi

    September 19, 2010 at 5:56 PM

    I had not heard about this incident in the news; BBC, CNN or any other website for that matter. After watching [most] of the unedited videos on youtube.. I am left speechless. I recently watched a movie on Netflix, The Stoning of Soraya M., I feel the same kind of hopelessness now that I felt after watching it.

    A common ‘theme’ of the previous comments revolve around the crowd not being Islamic or being desperate or that they were living an Islamic culture versus living by the deen… I need to disagree. This is heartless. Regardless of your religion, or lack thereof, no one should be able to inflict this kind of pain and do so with so much vengeance. Thankfully I did not understand what the mobsters were saying. This kind of anger and hate; where does it come from? This has nothing to do with Islam or Christianity. No ‘good’ person would allow this to happen in their presence, seriously. No one with a heart could watch this and not go to get help or try to stop what was happening. This kind of behavior is more like animals than humans.

    I am very thankful that I was born here, in the US. It’s not perfect, as we who reside here and govern here aren’t and far from it… but it is miles and miles better than the other alternatives.

  18. saleh

    September 21, 2010 at 3:11 AM

    this is how low pakistan’s government has come to….not only they did not yet provide justice by catching and hanging those involved in the murder…

    Punjab rulers cheat lynched brothers family

    Cheque for family bounces; theirs for flood affectees cashed

    DM ReportLAHORE – The cheques totalling Rs 1,000,000 given by the Punjab provincial government to the affected family of Sialkot lynching case bounced on Wednesday while the government has cashed the Rs 100, 000 cheque given by the family for flood-affected people of the province.According to details Punjab Government has compensated the affected family of ‘Lynched brothers’ with Rs1,000,000, but the cheques that were given to the family bounced when the affected family tried to cash the cheques. The heirs to the family of deceased Hafiz Mughees and Muneeb stated that the Punjab government had given them bogus cheques, while the cheque of Rs100, 000 that they had donated for the flood affected people of the province has been cashed by the Government.Meanwhile, the judicial remand of the six policemen, including suspended DPO Waqar Chohan, has been extended for another seven days. Former DPO Waqar Chohan along with six other policemen was brought to the court for the third time under VIP protocol. He was presented in an accountability court without handcuffs. During the hearing judge Rana Nisar Ahmad expressed anger over incomplete indictment. The court ordered that complete indictment should be presented in next hearing. The court, accepting the police plea extended judicial remand of the six policemen, including the DPO for seven days.Meanwhile tight security arrangements were arranged outside the court. On this juncture, DPO Waqar Chohan told the court that he is being made scapegoat on media’s pressure. He said that section has been imposed on him but he is not informed.

  19. Sayf

    September 23, 2010 at 10:13 PM

    Sounds familiar – sock-puppet? Someone check this out.

  20. AK 47

    September 28, 2010 at 6:20 PM

    I think all you Muslims and Pakistanis should feel sick after watching this video. If you can do that to your own people you all should be moved to another planet. How many more innocent happy people are going to have to be tortured in the name of your insane religion and culture.

    Really badly feel for those boys and there families. The police are just standing there and not doing there job to protect the public is sick!!

    Suicide bombers, earthquakes, poverty, cricket match fixing and killing 2 innocent smart your pakistani boys in public for playing cricket is further evidence of how messed you people are.

    I would love to meet the boys mother to offer our universal love and prayers, but most likely wouldn’t make it back alive.

    This could only happen in an islamic country like Pakistan (the whole world knows this).

    Sorry to offend anyone but very sad to watch that video (admin pls publish this comment!)

  21. David Cameron

    October 3, 2010 at 7:42 AM

    What does this tell you about that country? Pakistan is a serious mess and is going backwards.

    Look at how the police are just standing watching – a corrupt nation!!

  22. shabaz ishaq

    October 23, 2010 at 12:23 AM

    All the citizens of Pakistan should unite leave aside what school of thought u follow Sunni Wahabi Shia & so on 1st b a Muslim & follow the basics read Namaz keep roza give zakhat try to go to hajj this should b the basics yet no1 follows these instuctions given by Allah & instead want to kill any1 that doesn’t follow there school of thought. U should 1st b a muslim urself love ur fellow citizens we are all made by the same creator, our people are uneducated & the usa western powers divide us & make us fight amongst eachother by giving 1 group money& weapons to kill the opposition they bomb mosques & public places & say it was Shia so Sunni try to revenge by bombing them. We need to wake up & stop being played. We need to unite& get the American kuffar out of Pakistan this is a must $ we need to act now. Our government us so corrupt they will have to answer to Allah wen they die we shouldn’t vote& ellect them we need inteligent respectful leaders to run Pakistan I think Imran Khan the ex Pakistan cricket captain should run the country. Keep praying & set a good example of Islam take care hudafiz

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