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Finkelstein v. Dershowitz Old Debate on Democracy Now!

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fink_v_dershThis is kind of old, even before MM’s birth, but Finkelstein’s complete slaughter of Dershowitz is amazing, TIMELESS. Finkelstein treats Dershowitz like a helpless kid. No wonder Dershowitz fought so hard to keep Finkelstein from getting tenure at DePaul, with Dershowitz probably still licking his wounds.

I found especially humorous Finkelstein confirming Dershowitz’s offer of $10K  for finding any historical error in Dershowitz’s book, and how nervous the propagandist Dershowitz looks (39 mins in Part 1). Then Finkelstein proves Dershowitz wrong, KILLS him (metaphorically), and asks for the $10K to be given to Jenin!! Amy Goodman also insists that Finkelstein has proven him wrong, so he should honor his commitment. But obviously, a deceptive man like Dershowitz can never admit that he got trumped.

“You [Dershowitz] seem to have an obsession of Chomsky. But he is not here. I am here”

“Your [Dershowitz] book is a collection of frauds, falsification, p and nonsense”

“I am very envious of those with your [Dershowitz] credentials who compose frauds” [Finkelstein]

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22 Comments

22 Comments

  1. Imtiaz

    May 7, 2009 at 11:51 AM

    nicely done MM… i like

  2. Yasir Qadhi

    May 7, 2009 at 12:25 PM

    Finkelstein came to Yale during my first year here. Completely blew me away.
    A very brave and courageous man… may Allah give him and all those who are sincere tawfiq.

  3. Increase your Rizq

    May 7, 2009 at 2:10 PM

    Heard great things about Norman Finkelstein and his books…looking forward to reading them and hearing him live one day inshAllah
    Ameen to sh. Yasir’s dua

  4. DrM

    May 7, 2009 at 2:45 PM

    Asalam Aliakum,
    I uploaded part one back in 2006…good to see its still up there.

  5. SaqibSaab

    May 7, 2009 at 2:59 PM

    Go DePaul! :)

  6. emirzad

    May 7, 2009 at 3:29 PM

    shouldn’t we also be donating to democracynow and counterpunch like muslimmatters? just a thought, not waswasa; audhubillahi minashaytaniirrajim!

    yup, ‘beyond chutzpah’ rocks big time…

  7. Siraaj Muhammad

    May 7, 2009 at 4:38 PM

    Awesome debate, absolutely slaughters him, kinda neat how he contemptuously looks down his nose at him, lol.

    Siraaj

  8. anonymous

    May 8, 2009 at 1:39 AM

    lol. love how he refers to dershowitz in the third person!

  9. SaqibSaab

    May 8, 2009 at 7:43 AM

    “I have no interest in you, Mr. Dershowitz. None at all. I’m interested the scholarship, and I’m in interested in the facts, and I’m intersted in your book.”

    Pwnt.

    • Amad

      May 8, 2009 at 8:35 AM

      Consider again, folks, the power of the Israel Lobby in this country. This genius Professor, supported by the faculty, could not get tenure, while we see junkies becoming tenured Professors everyday. If anyone believes that this snubbing wasn’t related to the creaming he gave this liawyer Da-Show-witch, then they must be living in a hole.

  10. Amatullah

    May 8, 2009 at 11:06 AM

    I love how calm he is. He came to a university here a few weeks ago and the school would not let him speak, until the students and staff started a petition as well as emails to the dean and he was finally allowed to speak.

    it was recorded:

    Lecture:
    http://www.cs.umd.edu/~telsayed/lectures/Dr_Norman_Finkelstein/Lecture_Dr_Norman_Finkelstein_at_UMD_Apr_2009.mp3
    QA:
    http://www.cs.umd.edu/~telsayed/lectures/Dr_Norman_Finkelstein/QA_Dr_Norman_Finkelstein_at_UMD_Apr_2009.mp3

  11. Sunie

    May 9, 2009 at 3:14 AM

    Bruce Lee Analogy (Aurah Sufficiently Covered InshaAllah)

  12. Abc

    May 9, 2009 at 4:14 AM

    Good Video. JZK for the post.

    Lol @ 42:00 in the first vid, Dershowitz completely got PWND by Prof. Finkelstein.
    Ameen to Sh. Yasir’s Du’a.

  13. Sunie

    May 9, 2009 at 11:07 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKaX3EkrkII

    Oops, this is the Bruce Lee thing I was referring to..

  14. mirza

    May 10, 2009 at 10:54 AM

    prof finkelstein: dont play that game mr dereshowitz, i read your book two times in fact i read it six times because i read john peter’s book four times ( lol, awesome brutally honest debate)
    ameen to shaykh yasir’s dua…

  15. AbdulHasib

    May 10, 2009 at 4:10 PM

    I met him when he came to the Univ of Texas and asked him “what do you make of the conflict in the area with respect to it’s religious importance amongst all of the three major world religions – judaism, christianity, and islam? And how can we come to terms with that in retrospect to the Palestinian occupation?”

    his answer, was excellent, and shows of a man with deep insight.

    He mentioned that
    ‘we must speak the international language of Justice and Over coming oppression. This is the only language that if one looks at the history of this region since 1967 and until now, objectively, one will side with Justice and against oppression. In this case it is resounding against the Palestinian occupation. This language is something all can register and understand, and with this language we can win over the international community.’

    Good stuff, i became an instant fan.

    He also has an older debate with Wolf Blitzer (1989) that is borderline comical, check it out!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjfG8-teSc0

    Also his books The Holocaust Industry, and Beyond Chutzpah: On the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History are some serious slap in the face “showing the facts with stats” writings that are impeccable.

    The man is, in short.. what’s up.

    May Allah guide him to Islam. Ameen.

  16. AbdulHasib

    May 10, 2009 at 4:20 PM

    by the way, one side benefit i just was thinking about;

    If anyone were to look at the biography of this man and what he had to go through as far as being denied, rejected, and taunted, and unjustifiably criticized for his writings and research by family, friends, colleagues; all the way from when he was a graduate student, to writing his doctorate. Throughout his academic carreer: from not being accepted to universities to teach for his views, from nearly being stopped from teaching, to nearly being sued..

    this man is the epitome of what it takes to go against literally the ENTIRE Tide of Academia and be
    under appreciated
    under represented
    under – everything..

    But yet, he still fights and stands for the Truth with such vigor, and is loved and stood up for it.

    And again the best appreciation i have for this man is to say that, We ask Allah, sincerely, to guide him to what is best.

    People who set this type of example could serve as huge assets to our Ummah, and even as non muslims, give us a standard and precedent to always stand for the Truth.

    • Amad

      May 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM

      great points abdul hasib, good to hear from you.

      The man’s confidence, driven by his knowledge of what he believes is the clear truth, is remarkable.

  17. Faiez

    May 10, 2009 at 10:09 PM

    Here’s a bit more recent interview of Norman on the Riz Khan show.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqT6uKxz_eQ

    He mentions dershowditz in here.

  18. Green Child

    May 12, 2009 at 9:42 PM

    This debate was just okay because it didn’t address the issues as much as it addressed Dashowitcz or whatever his name ism and his plaigarism.

    A real eye-opener is what he says about the weakness of the Muslims and the Arabs in the following video:

    ” Do you know why nobody respects the arabs?!” – Finkelstein

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDe65-nF3FQ

    what every Muslim needs to hear.

  19. emirzad

    May 12, 2009 at 10:00 PM

    assalamualaikum,

    this was last month at university of texas, houstan.

    http://utpalestine.blip.tv/#2102797

  20. Asrar Ahmed

    July 17, 2009 at 2:53 AM

    I took 4 classes with Finklestein at DePaul, in one of the classes he had us analyze this debate and the claims he made against Dershowitz, lets just say that the class was a lot more fun than I thought it would be! He is a great Prof.

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