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July 11, 2010

Nadim

World Cup Final

So who’s going to be the best football team of the world for the next 4 years? (yes, football…. not soccer)

Except if you are living in different world, today is the final of the World Cup: Spain vs Netherlands. For some reason, everybody looks to favor the Spanish (including me). Who’s your favorite? And most importantly, where are you going to watch the game? I have heard this match will be broadcasted in 3D in select theaters. Wow!

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Nadim

Nadim is an IT professional who loves to travel around the world. He grew up in France, lived in the US and now resides in Saudi Arabia. He is the former ameer of the AlMaghrib Institute student tribe in Bay Area, CA. You can follow him on Twitter @muslimms

22 Comments

UmA

July 11, 2010 at 9:13 AM

Oh I thought the Final might be referring to something a bit more final

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Abu Noor Al-Irlandee

July 11, 2010 at 9:55 AM

Today also marks the 15th anniversary of the Srebrenica Massacre, where nearly 8,000 Bosnian Muslims were slaughtered in the worst act of genocide in Europe since World War 2.

You can watch a documentary here “A Cry From the Grave” or Srbrenica: Autopsy of a Massacre.

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- Ify Okoye
  
  July 11, 2010 at 10:12 AM
  
  I second the film “A Cry from the Grave,” it’s excellent.
  
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  - Amatullah
    
    July 12, 2010 at 6:12 AM
    
    yes I agree, I watched it last year. subhanAllah it was heavy.
    
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- Shuaib Mansoori
  
  July 11, 2010 at 9:10 PM
  
  Assalamu Alaikum Akhi,
  
  BarkAllahu Feek for sharing…May Allah grant justice to the oppressed and perfect the Sabr of the families of the victims.
  
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muslimah

July 11, 2010 at 10:25 AM

i think i’ll favor spain since everyone else is doing the same is lol

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Rafa

July 11, 2010 at 12:00 PM

I’m not one to jump in the bandwagon. Netherlands! :)

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- muslimah
  
  July 12, 2010 at 6:27 AM
  
  yay spain won :) netherlands played well, afterall they were given extra time during which spain scored.
  
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muslimah

July 11, 2010 at 12:34 PM

lol im supporting spain cos i dont know much abt netherlands. and spanish accented english is cool lol

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abu Abdullah

July 11, 2010 at 4:46 PM

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/why-am-i-not-surprised/

Jewish student caught painting Swastikas on her own door then claiming Anti-Semitic Attack

PS 70,00,00,000 X 2 man hours lost during world cup football final?

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usman

July 11, 2010 at 5:04 PM

I am glad Spain won, they are the ancestors of our brothers and sisters. So its like a Muslim country, but not now.

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- abu ubaidah
  
  July 11, 2010 at 9:55 PM
  
  assalamualaikum,
  
  what are you talking about?
  
  by 1609, the Spanish had manged to force out every last muslim from Spain. They used every brutal method of torture and inquisition under the sun to force them to commit kufr and become Catholics. The only descendants of the Al-Muwwahideen and Al-Muraabiteen movements that conquered Spain, are in North Africa, where they escaped from the evil Spainsh monarchy.
  
  Spain is not better that the Netherlands. The former occupies muslim lands and debated banning the niqaab in regions (where not one muslim lives!!) and the latter voted for rabid anti-muslim politicians and has a penchant for producing cartoonists that mock Muhammad(Saws)
  
  Two countries of kufr, full of racists and islamophobes.
  
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  - muslimah
    
    July 12, 2010 at 6:25 AM
    
    what are you talking about? What does it have to do with world cup and spain’s football team?
    
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    - abu ubaidah
      
      July 13, 2010 at 7:22 AM
      
      I am questioning why somebody would support a national football team and then say they like them because they are basically a muslim country. This is an absurd conclusion.
      
      I would also mention that 90% of the iberian peninsula is occupied muslim land.
      
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  - BrownS
    
    July 12, 2010 at 1:29 PM
    
    Apparently some Muslim families did survive in Spain even after the Inquisition, probably for PR purposes (“look we didn’t force out ALL of them”). I’ve heard of people meeting native Spaniards (not converts) on Hajj. Also I’m pretty sure one of my acquaintances told me a while ago when he went to Portugal and Spain he met some Muslims from old families.
    
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    - abu ubaidah
      
      July 13, 2010 at 1:58 PM
      
      None were left for PR purposes. If one were to study the brutality of the Inquisition towards the Muslims in Iberia, you would know that PR meant nothing to them. Those that remained, were very few, and did so in secret- this is not even a proven fact, it is based upon speculation and some genetics research.
      
      Furthermore, the expulsion of the moriscos had crippling effects on the Spanish economy; effects that were not unforseen. But the hatred of the muslims was more intense than their desire to have a stable economy and society.
      
      Even those who sincerely converted were expelled. It makes the fact ring true; that when you sell your deen and become like the kuffar- they will still hate you and mock you.
      
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anon

July 11, 2010 at 7:09 PM

I find it sad that not one of the 8 comments so far mentioned the no-fly list issue and most of them are about world cup. It’s very sad how we’ve hit the level that we even ignore the injustice let alone do something about it.

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- SA
  
  July 11, 2010 at 11:23 PM
  
  Well, why don’t you set an example by sharing some of your thoughts on it?
  
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- Amad
  
  July 11, 2010 at 11:50 PM
  
  we are all ears.
  
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- asawb
  
  July 12, 2010 at 12:28 AM
  
  +1
  
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- muslimah
  
  July 12, 2010 at 5:37 AM
  
  why dont you go ahead enlighten us?
  
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abu Abdullah

July 16, 2010 at 3:43 PM

how ironic? Now bangladesh bans maududi’s books….http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-10661454

Allahul musta’an.

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