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Open Thread Sunday 4/05/2009


We are now in the second quarter of the year 2009. Is it just us, or is this year going by fast? We ask Allah for help throughout the rest of it and until forever. Here are a few bits of recent interest.

  • President Obama is making moves to strengthen activity in Afghanistan with help from NATO. While NATO seems to be giving support, there’s some speculation that the amount of troops they’ve hooked up is not what Obama was looking for.
  • An Italian Magazine, Yalla Italia, is written specifically to narrow the gap betwen the Italian public and the Muslim citizens living there. With second-generation immigrant authors as writers and blog posts like “To wear or not to wear a burkini?”, Yalla Italia is trying to show a picture of integration and/or assimilation into Italian life without giving up Islamic practice. Read about it from a New York Times article or visit Yalla Italia’s blog (in Italian).
  • Dr. Ann Holmes Redding, a priest of the Episcopal Church was deposed from her position upon accepting Islam. “The way I understand Jesus is compatible with Islam,” she said. “I was following Jesus and he led me into Islam.”
  • jay_cutlerThe Chicago Bears aquire Jay Cutler as their new quarterback for the 2009 season! Chicagoans are going nuts over what is possible the best QB thing to happen to the Bears in decades while fans from other cities are challenging this acquisition as nothing to celebrate about. What do you think?

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  1. intellect1429

    April 5, 2009 at 11:15 AM

    Good Headlines for this Sunday. About the following one:

    “Dr. Ann Holmes Redding, a priest of the Episcopal Church was deposed from her position upon accepting Islam. “The way I understand Jesus is compatible with Islam,” she said. “I was following Jesus and he led me into Islam.” ”

    This woman is from Washington state, and I am a resident of Seattle. This has been a local issue that we Muslims in Seattle have been trying to understand how to approach. The thing is, she claims to be BOTH Christian and Muslim, which is sort of startling. But, check out this article from the Seattle Times, and it will shed more light upon this issue.

    May Allah Guide her.

  2. SaqibSaab

    April 5, 2009 at 2:01 PM

    Nice link, it’s been added to the post. Ameen to your du’a for her.

  3. Nihal Khan

    April 5, 2009 at 11:07 PM

    Can’t stress this enough :)

  4. Free Fahad

    April 5, 2009 at 11:59 PM

    Please check out this new article in the Nation Magazine about the torture of Fahad Hashmi

    Guantánamo at Home
    By Jeanne Theoharis

    This article appeared in the April 20, 2009 edition of The Nation.



    Two days after being sworn in as the forty-fourth president of the United States, Barack Obama signed three executive orders, banning torture, requiring the CIA to use the same methods as the military in interrogating terror suspects, shutting down the network of secret CIA prisons and shuttering the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, within a year. “What the cynics fail to understand,” the president proclaimed in his inaugural address, “is that the ground has shifted beneath them.”
    · Guantánamo at Home

    Guantanamo Bay

    Jeanne Theoharis: Terror suspects are held in US prisons on dubious evidence under inhumane conditions.

    But where exactly has the ground shifted? The places of focus–and much of the furor against Bush’s terror politics over the past few years–are outside our nation’s borders, in distant lands and faraway prisons. The problem of torture and other human rights violations in America’s “war on terror” has been framed as a problem that happens largely beyond our shores. The underlying assumption is that if Guantánamo detainees were to be tried on United States soil and in federal courts (as many groups demand), such egregious abuses would not occur.

    But Guantánamo is not simply an aberration; its closure will not return America to the rule of law or to its former standing among nations. Guantánamo is a particular way of seeing the Constitution, of constructing the landscape as a murky terrain of lurking enemies where the courts become part of the bulwark against such dangers, where rights have limits and where international standards must be weighed against national security. It is an outgrowth of a “war on terror” with historical precedents that took root under Clinton (in legislation like the 1996 Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act), spread like kudzu under Bush and infiltrated the fabric of the justice system. It is a pre-emptive strategy where stopping terrorism has come to mean detaining and prosecuting people who may not have committed any actual act of terrorism but whose religious beliefs and political associations ostensibly reveal an intention to do so.

    T he day after President Obama signed the three executive orders, I sat in a courtroom for a hearing in the case of Syed Fahad Hashmi. Hashmi is a 29-year-old Muslim American citizen being held in solitary confinement at the federal Metropolitan Correctional Center (MCC) in Lower Manhattan. He is charged with two counts of providing and conspiring to provide material support and two counts of making and conspiring to make a contribution of goods or services to Al Qaeda. If convicted, Hashmi faces seventy years in prison He is also a former student of mine at Brooklyn College who graduated in 2003 and received his master’s degree in international relations at London Metropolitan University in 2005.

    Hashmi was apprehended in Britain on June 6, 2006, on a US warrant; his arrest was featured as the top story on the CBS and NBC nightly news programs, which used graphics blaring Terror Trail and Web of Terror. Held for eleven months without incident at Belmarsh Prison, he became the first US citizen to be extradited by Britain under new policies relaxing the standard for extradition in terrorism cases.

    The Justice Department claims that the “centerpiece” of its case against Hashmi is the testimony of Junaid Babar. According to the government, in the beginning of 2004, Babar, also a United States citizen, stayed with Hashmi at his London apartment for two weeks. In his luggage, the government alleges, Babar had raincoats, ponchos and waterproof socks, which Babar later delivered to the third-ranking member of Al Qaeda in South Waziristan, Pakistan. It was alleged that Hashmi allowed Babar to call other conspirators in terror plots, using his cellphone. Babar, who was arrested in 2004 and has pleaded guilty to five counts of material support for Al Qaeda, faces up to seventy years in prison. While awaiting sentence, he has agreed to serve as a government witness in terror trials in Britain and Canada, as well as in Hashmi’s trial. For his cooperation, Babar will be rewarded with a reduced sentence.

    Material-support laws are predicated on guilt by association. They fashion a black box into which all sorts of constitutionally protected activities can be thrown and classified as suspect, if not criminal. Because there is little evidence in this case that links Hashmi directly to any criminal action, much of the government’s case will hinge on establishing his intent. To do this, the government will likely focus on statements Hashmi has made about US foreign policy, the treatment of Muslims here and abroad and other political issues. Hashmi, who was a member of the New York political group Al Muhajiroun as a student at Brooklyn College, advocated positions well outside the mainstream of American public opinion. Indeed, he drew the attention of Time and CNN in May 2002 as a student activist and potential homegrown threat; both quoted him at a 2002 Brooklyn College meeting, calling America “the biggest terrorist in the world.” The government, however, has not designated Al Muhajiroun a terrorist organization or deemed membership in the organization illegal. This prosecution thus has the potential to criminalize constitutionally protected political speech.

    Hashmi has been in solitary confinement at MCC awaiting trial since May 2007. Since October of that year he has been held under Special Administrative Measures (SAMs) imposed and then renewed by the attorney general. The government’s authority to impose SAMs was established in 1996. Since 9/11, the standards for imposing them–and conditions for their renewal–have been significantly relaxed. Under the SAMs, Hashmi is allowed no contact with anyone–except his lawyer and, more recently, his parents–no calls, no letters, no talking to other prisoners through the walls, because his cell is electronically monitored inside and out. He must shower and go to the bathroom in view of the camera He can write one letter a week to a single member of his family, but he cannot use more than three pieces of paper. He is forbidden any contact–directly or through his attorneys–with the news media. He can read newspapers but only portions approved by his jailers–and not until thirty days after publication. He is allowed only one hour out of his cell a day–which is periodically withheld–and is not allowed fresh air but is forced to exercise in a solitary cage. The SAMs pose a significant threat to Hashmi’s mental health and his ability to participate fully in his defense. Their severity casts a pall of suspicion over him, in effect depicting him as guilty before he even enters the courtroom. His “proclivity for violence” is cited as the reason for these measures–despite the fact that he has never been charged with (let alone convicted of) committing an act of violence.

    Moreover, through the Classified Information Procedures Act, enacted in 1981 to prevent graymail by US intelligence officers under prosecution, much of the evidence against Hashmi is classified, which means he will not be allowed to view much of the evidence in his trial. His lawyer went through a CIA-level clearance to be able to review it; however, because of national security claims, Hashmi’s attorney is forbidden from discussing much of the government’s evidence with Hashmi or with any outside experts who do not also have security clearance.

    At Hashmi’s January 23 hearing, Federal District Judge Loretta Preska heard the defense’s motion challenging the conditions of his pretrial confinement. The defense presented evidence on the devastating impact long-term solitary confinement and sensory deprivation have on prisoners’ mental as well as physical health and on their ability to participate in their defense. Defense lawyer Sean Maher cited the work of various medical experts and scholars like University of California, Santa Cruz, psychology professor Craig Haney, who concludes that “there is not a single published study of solitary or supermax-like confinement…that failed to result in negative psychological effects.”

    The defense asked for a modest set of changes in the conditions of Hashmi’s confinement–that his elderly and disabled parents be allowed to visit him together, that he be allowed to exercise in MCC’s recreational facility on the roof and with other prisoners, to participate in group prayer and to have a cellmate. The judge refused all these requests, siding with the US Attorney’s tautological argument that the original imposition of SAMs dictating higher security measures proved the paramount national security considerations of Hashimi’s case, thus rendering the conditions of his confinement legitimate and necessary. It is not surprising, then, that in cases like Hashmi’s where SAMs have been imposed since 9/11, almost none have been lifted. Judge Preska also claimed that Hashmi’s restrictions are “administrative rather than punitive” and thus constitutional.

    Hashmi has spent nearly a year and a half under the SAMs in a federal detention center in Manhattan under the sanction of the US District Court for the Southern District of New York. The conditions of his pretrial confinement are not substantially more humane than those of many prisoners in Guantánamo, nor is his right to a fair trial in New York City unequivocally more protected than those of many foreign nationals facing US military commissions in other parts of the world. What, then, do we think will happen if the Guantánamo detainees are transferred and tried in federal courts?

    The inhumane conditions of Hashmi’s pretrial confinement are not aberrational. Canadian citizen and US legal resident Mohammed Warsame has been held for more than five years in Minneapolis without trial (most of it in solitary confinement under SAMs) despite a speedy-trial motion his lawyers filed more than three years ago. In December 2003 Warsame was secreted away for four days of “voluntary” questioning at a military base in northern Minnesota. Authorities believed he had information on Zacarias Moussaoui, since the two men had attended the same mosque in Minnesota. Held as a material witness, Warsame hardly knew Moussaoui and had no testimony to provide about him, even when brought to his trial. The government then filed material-support charges against Warsame, claiming he had taught English to Taliban nurses, had eaten in the same room with Osama bin Laden and sent $2,000 to people in Afghanistan the government claims were with the Taliban.

    Civil rights violations are also becoming entrenched in prison policy. In December 2006 the Justice Department quietly set up a segregated facility, the Communication Management Unit, at the federal prison in Terre Haute, Indiana, for medium-security terrorism inmates. Nearly all the inmates transferred to Terre Haute are Muslims. All calls and mail (communication customarily off limits to prison officials) are monitored, and prisoners are required to communicate with each other only in English. The highest-level terrorists are typically sent to the Penitentiary-Administrative Maximum Facility, known as Supermax, in Florence, Colorado. Colorado Governor Bill Ritter is considering opening the prison’s doors to the Guantánamo detainees; the facility, according to Ritter’s spokesman, is “built for just that type of high-risk inmate.” Amnesty International has been critical of conditions at Supermax, where prisoners have almost no opportunity for human interaction, physical exercise or mental stimulation–conditions many of the men faced at Guantánamo and that Hashmi faces in Manhattan. Indeed, one of the United States’ most wanted terror suspects, Khalid al-Fawwaz, is fighting extradition to the United States on the grounds that the conditions in a prison like Supermax in Colorado breach Article Three of Britain’s Human Rights Act, which prohibits torture and other inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

    Of the six people, including Hashmi, being held under pretrial SAMs in the United States, three are under the jurisdiction of the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York. Stationed at ground zero of the political theater of 9/11, this Manhattan office has taken wide latitude in imposing extreme conditions of imprisonment. Before 2001, SAMs were used against high-level prisoners whose power and influence could inspire acts of violence outside prison (like the head of the Latin Kings gang, who ordered a hit from prison). Today, these are imposed more reflexively against suspects the government seeks to mark as dangerous, regardless of their demonstrated actions or influence outside prison. (Indeed, the US Attorney has not publicly claimed that Hashmi has reach outside the prison.) Moreover, the Southern District of New York is a major steppingstone to national office–and prosecuting terrorists has significant political cachet.

    On the stage of American terror justice, US Attorneys across the country have become the lead actors. Featured prominently on the nightly news, they speak in ominous tones describing the importance of each latest terror indictment–plots foiled, sleeper cells discovered, terrorists nabbed. The public performance of these indictments reminds Americans of the grave dangers the nation faces and the need for special measures to protect us, even as it reassures us that the government is averting danger at every turn. The paucity of evidence in many of these cases and the inhumane treatment of suspects have gone remarkably unchecked by many judges. Such abrogations of rights and due process rarely receive significant media coverage.

    In Miami, prosecutors are going back to court for the third time, seeking conviction on material-support charges of six men for a plot to blow up the Sears Tower. The nightly news in June 2006 trumpeted the arrest of seven “Muslim” men and the dashing of their plan to attack the Sears Tower as part of a jihad. (By the next day, however, even the FBI described the plan as “aspirational rather than operational.”) The seven men are actually members of the Moorish Science Temple, a religious sect that blends elements of Christianity, Judaism, Islam and black nationalism. The case, lacking any concrete evidence of weapons or blueprints and using questionable informants (the jurors felt that an FBI informant led the men on), has already resulted in two mistrials. Yet the US Attorney has pressed for the third trial in order to “safeguard the community,” even though no new evidence has come to light.

    Media outlets across the country hyped “sleeper cells” discovered in Detroit in 2002 and Lodi, California, in 2005. Two men in Detroit were convicted in 2003 but had their sentences subsequently suspended (and the US Attorney was indicted) when it was revealed that the US Attorney concealed exculpatory evidence. In Lodi another FBI informant, who was paid $250,000 for his work, appears to have acted as an agent provocateur with father and son Umer and Hamid Hayat. The government succeeded in getting a conviction of the son using the contradictory and misleading confessions of the Hayats–both of whom sought to cooperate with investigators. (The father went so far as to claim that his son trained in a basement, including doing pole-vaulting exercises. When the FBI interviewer commented that the basement ceiling must have been very high, the father concurred.) A longtime FBI agent was going to testify for the Hayats’ defense that this was “the most derelict and juvenile investigation” he had ever seen the FBI put forth, but the court disallowed the testimony.

    Then there is the case of “terrorist leader” and University of South Florida professor Sami Al-Arian, detailed by Alexander Cockburn in The Nation [“The Persecution of Sami Al-Arian,” March 19, 2007; “The Ongoing Persecution of Sami Al-Arian,” July 21, 2008]. After more than a decade of surveillance, years of solitary confinement and a six-month trial that cost $50 million, the jury acquitted Al-Arian on the eight most serious charges (and deadlocked on the rest). The government pushed Al-Arian into taking a plea on one count and then reneged on its agreement by subpoenaing him before a grand jury. Refusing to appear, Al-Arian now faces contempt-of-court charges brought by the Assistant US Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia. Judge Leonie Brinkema is considering dismissing the case. In early March, she questioned the US Attorney’s actions in Al-Arian’s plea agreement: “I think there’s something more important here, and that’s the integrity of the Justice Department.”

    In his confirmation hearing, Attorney General-nominee Eric Holder unequivocally declared that “Guantánamo will be closed,” yet simultaneously pledged to “fight terrorism with every available tool.” It is important to close a renegade prison in a remote corner of Cuba. But it is just as important, if much harder, to look at ourselves at home. It is here, in Lower Manhattan, Minneapolis and Miami, in our Justice Department, where we must shift the ground. It is here where US citizens and residents–in our federal court system and under our watch–await trial, often facing secret and specious evidence under inhumane conditions that rise to the level of cruel and unusual punishment. The task of ending Guantánamo requires that we examine and rebuild the political and judicial systems within our borders–to reform the Justice Department, the courts and prison policy. We would be wise to heed former Chief Justice Earl Warren’s warning about the dangers lurking in our judicial processes: “It would indeed be ironic,” Warren cautioned in 1967, “if, in the name of national defense, we would sanction the subversion of…those liberties…which the defense of the nation worthwhile.”

    About Jeanne Theoharis

    Jeanne Theoharis holds the endowed chair in women’s studies and is an associate professor of political science at Brooklyn College, CUNY. She is the author of numerous books on the civil rights movement and the contemporary politics of race in the United States, including (as co-author) Our Schools Suck: Students Talk Back to a Segregated Nation on the Failures of Urban Schools. For more information on the Hashmi case, visit

  5. Touhid

    April 6, 2009 at 1:17 AM

    Assalamu alaykum,
    the following link has a brief interview with Noam Chomsky and his thoughts on NATO,Afghanistan, Israel, etc…
    (there is an interruption during the interview, but then it resumes)

  6. Amad

    April 6, 2009 at 12:33 PM

    Obama’s speech in Turkey:

    But I also want to be clear that America’s relationship with the Muslim work cannot and will not be based on opposition to al Qaeda. Far from it. We seek broad engagement based upon mutual interests and mutual respect. We will listen carefully, bridge misunderstanding, and seek common ground. We will be respectful, even when we do not agree. And we will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over so many centuries to shape the world for the better – including my own country. The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their family, or have lived in a Muslim-majority country – I know, because I am one of them.

    Above all, we will demonstrate through actions our commitment to a better future. We want to help more children get the education that they need to succeed. We want to promote health care in places where people are vulnerable. We want to expand the trade and investment that can bring prosperity for all people. In the months ahead, I will present specific programs to advance these goals. Our focus will be on what we can do, in partnership with people across the Muslim world, to advance our common hopes, and our common dreams. And when people look back on this time, let it be said of America that we extended the hand of friendship.

  7. J

    April 7, 2009 at 2:27 AM

    ^^^ Brother Amad, unfortunately Obama has extended not the hand of friendship but the fist of war. He continues the colonial wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama is a taghoot just like the rest of them.

  8. ibnkhalil

    April 7, 2009 at 3:02 PM

    Assalam o alaykum, Alhamdulillah, a new muslim magazine is online.

    Please check it out

    JazakAllah khair

  9. Amad

    April 7, 2009 at 10:21 PM

    From Ahmed Bedier:

    Just received txt from Cong. Keith Ellison: “Alhamdulillah, its a few minutes after fajr. I am in Riyadh. Left Mecca a few days ago. Made Umra. Prayed for all of the American community. Please give the beloved brothers & sisters my salaams.

    May Allah accept Br. Keith’s Umrah.

  10. Amad

    April 9, 2009 at 8:34 AM

    Good news. Sr. Dalia Mogahed is appointed to White House council:

  11. Amatullah

    April 9, 2009 at 12:02 PM

    ^^mashaAllah great news! Sr Dalia is awesome.

  12. Sister: No nonsense, Please!

    April 15, 2009 at 9:41 PM

    So…since my comments on the homosexuality thread are being moderated for no reason, I will use this thread voice my exasperation.

    The moderator, whoever it is, should realize that just b/c a commentator holds a different opinion than him/her doesn’t mean that they (the moderator) can unjustifiably moderate the commentator’s comments. I try not to be rude and disrespful in my comments…and as far as I remember reading in the modus operandi of this blog, disagreements are allowed. I don’t believe I crossed any limits. So there is no reason for you to moderate my comments. But if that is what you want to do, then feel free, as you are operating the blog….but for truth’s sake…please don’t lie to us that we are allowed to disagree when in reality we are not!

    -Sister, you have been on this blog long enough to know that sometimes comments do get in stuck in spam for absolutely no reason. Pls give at least 12 hours before assuming that a comment was blocked. And even then, pls ask first, because usually, except in specific rare cases (and specific to certain people, whose comments are moderated heavily), we will leave a comment about moderation, or send an email to author. Also, we cannot moderate along “post-lines”, i.e. we can’t block your comments on one post, but have them open on another. So, if your comment appears on another post, like it did here, then most likely its a spam-filter issue. Your comment on the homosexuality post has been recovered -Editor

  13. Sister: No nonsense, Please!

    April 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM

    oh ok…I should have asked before concluding. I didn’t entirely know that. I apologize. :) Alhamdulillah, it’s good to see that the moderators here are responsive unlike some of the rude moderators of the unwelcoming internet places that I was instantly reminded of (when I thought my comment was moderated). May Allah make mm moderators role models for the others. Ameen.

  14. Sister: No nonsense, Please!

    April 17, 2009 at 2:35 PM

    Comment Removed
    Sister: as an editorial decision, this thread is closed to your comments.

    An editorial That’s amusing! I’d already made my point on that thread. I don’t know if I myself wanted to post. I was simply responding to accusations/badthameezi after making my point.

    We appreciate how you feel about this issue…

    I don’t care about how anyone feels about my comments while I’m speaking the truth in a composed manner. I try to speak about Islam with Izzah. (Jazakallah for the Izzah conclusion, Zainab!)

    …but believe that it is no longer constructive to argue down this road.

    People were arguing on a lot of routes on that thread … and if you pursue some of those roads … you will encounter dead ends! I must say that I sense double standards in your rule implementation. I feel that you only moderate the comments that aren’t in your line of thinking. For the ones that are, I’ve seen that you don’t moderate them or issue warnings for the commentators even if they are rude. I wish I was wrong on this, but b/c of multiple observations I don’t think I am. I still wish I was though…

    You may disagree with this and you have a right to.

    Islamically, one doesn’t always have the right to disagree but my disagreement in this case is valid.

    But we have to go by what we as a shura believe.

    Was Br. Yasir Qadhi involved in your Shura? I would like to know…Do tell.

    We apologize for any hard feelings that this may cause you.

    Apology accepted. May Allah enlighten you and your shurah. Ameen. :)

    PS: I don’t know if I’ll be commenting on this blog anymore…so Editor, one thing I’ve been longing to say is some of your male authors are totally lacking in their adab and also in their gheerah. One the one side you will find them writing nice Islamic articles, while on the other hand you will find them picking on sisters (who are not interested in talking to them and they most pobably know that) and doing badthameezi with them. Please chastise them…I dont mind sending you the necessary (virtual) tools upon request.

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