Tragedy in the Bronx

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1. 

   Scorpius

   March 11, 2007 at 4:39 AM

   What, you crowd a family of 6 and a family of 13 (and, most likely two other large Malinese famlies) in a dinky NYC townhouse (and, trust me, I’ve seen many and they are dinky) and you don’t expect a fire and death?

   Stupid is as stupid does.

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2. 

   Amad

   March 11, 2007 at 6:31 AM

   We should be very careful of what we say, esp. with regards to events like this. Likely these people could not afford more housing (esp. in New York where a small shack rents for a fortune).

   Statements such as posted by Scorpius, sorry to say, are in poor taste and inappropriate. We should pray for the souls of these people. If the overcrowding is one of the lessons to take from it, fine, but there is a place and a way to point out things.

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3. 

   inexplicabletimelessness

   March 11, 2007 at 6:51 AM

   As salaamu alaikum,

   Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji’oon. Truly sad story but Qadar Allah wa masha’a fa’ala.

   JazakAllah khair for posting that link for the fire safety too. I definitely will take a look at it since about a year ago (lol) I almost literally burned the house down because inexperienced in cooking as I am, I was cooking a “salan” (Indo-Pak style curry) and I just turned my head for a while and when I look there is a huge flame *touching* the ceiling. It was horrifying but alhamdulillah we’re OK. :D

   Fire in general is a very scary thing, no wonder Allah made the punishment of the Hereafter fire. Today in Qabeelat Haadi (yay!)’s Almaghrib Usool alFiqh class Sheikh Yaser Birjas was mentioning that hadith from which it is established that only Allah punishes with fire, so we shouldn’t do that… So really, fire is scary and a horrible thing to encounter. May Allah save us all and protect us, ameen.

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4. 

   Scorpius

   March 11, 2007 at 8:17 AM

   The problem isn’t “affordable housing” the problem is over breeding. Four reasonably sized families or couples could easily live in these tenements, but you have families the size of Magassa’s and you create a fire hazard, not to mention 11 new leeches on society.

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5. 

   Amad

   March 11, 2007 at 4:32 PM

   Thanks Scorpius for letting your “objectivity’ and “humanity” shine through. Perhaps it isn’t this family you have an issue with. Perhaps it is a deeper ingrained xenophobia.

   Inexplicable: indeed fire is not a child’s play. I undertook some fire training several years ago at a a course held at Texas A&M, and it was probably the roughest time of my life. The drills and the ‘closeness’ to the fire and heat were enough to make you appreciate the ‘capabilities’ of ‘earthly fire’… and we should remember then, that the earthly fire is only a minuscule version of the hell-fire in terms of its “burning capabilities”. May Allah protect us from it.

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6. 

   AnonyMouse

   March 11, 2007 at 7:59 PM

   Inaa lillaahi wa inna ilayhi raaji’oon… to Allah we belong and to Him we return.

   Fire has always freaked me out, ever since I was a kid. Even when we have a fire going in our fire place I’m nervous about it! :S

   Scorpius, that was really just a plain nasty comment. Ever heard of something called empathy? What about good old human decency?

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7. 

   nasir gudal

   March 13, 2007 at 12:33 AM

   Inna lillahi Wa inna ilaihi raaji’un

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8. 

   Medinah

   March 13, 2007 at 7:00 PM

   Assalamu Alaikum,
   “From Allah we Come to Allah we shall Return”. Everything happens by the decree of Allah. It has nothing to do with overcrowding. Everyone needs a place to stay, so before any comments are made about anyones living conditions, should look at the situation and the facts first inshallah! Look at the people who are living on the street, with no roof over their heads, I personally have been there. Please think before you speak. I attended the Janazah of the family in the Bronx, I live in the Bronx, and I saw it up close the caskets of those babies, very sad mashallah. Anything can happen to either one of us on any given second, hour, minute, or day. It was just their time, and we ALL have a time written for us. May Allah help us, Ameen! Masalaams

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9. 

   Amad

   March 13, 2007 at 7:33 PM

   JazakAllahkhair Medinah for the update and the closeup view of the Janazah. If you can give the readers more commentary on the Janazah experience, on who was there, etc. it would bring it closer to home.

   I hope everyone who could, has put in a donation, even if a small one. Just to show our solidarity with these families inshallah.

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10. 

    Medinah

    March 14, 2007 at 5:34 PM

    Assalamu Alaikum,
    Hope you all are well inshallah. I did attend the Janazah on Monday, and it was very moving to say the least. This did not just affect the muslim community, it affected all of New York. I did not expect to see a lot of people there, but when I arrived there, the huge amount of people gathered together was amazing. There was no more space in the masjid, so everyone was outside, about three blocks long, subhanallah!! The outpouring of the whole community, and to see so many muslims together, mashallah brought tears to my eyes. You dont see too many muslims here like that, maybe only on Hajj, especiallay in a post 9/11 world, mashallah.
    The crowd included Hilary Clinton, Mayor of New York Michael Bloomberg, Bronx Borough President Adolfo Carrion. Imam Siraj Wahaj from Masjid Taqwa who spoke also. Muslims from the Bronx, Brooklyn, Manahattan, Queens came to make duaas and give donations, and come together. This made me think of all the negativity you see everywhere concerning the muslims, that day everyone saw how Islam is not an evil or terroristic religion, but a beautiful way of life. We all have a brother and sisterhood, that goes beyond blood relations,we are all brothers and sisters in islam.
    Allah is truly Merciful to us to grant us another day to worship Him, lets not take it for granted, for tomorrow someone will be at our Janazah making duaas for us. This was an experience for me, and a day I will never forget inshallah. Keep them in your duaas inshallah, and remember the destroyer of pleasures, “Death”.
    I have some pictures from the Janazah, is there anyway to upload them here, if not mashallah. Masalaams. May Allah bless All the Muslims, Ameen!

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12. 

    SHEIKH MOUSSA DRAMMEH

    April 28, 2007 at 8:07 PM

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    United African Congress
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    September 18, 2007 at 9:49 PM

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