By Sheikh Mirza Yawar Baig

  1. Congratulations are in Order
  2. How Did This Happen?
  3. India is Our Country
  4. What Must We Indian Muslims Do?
  5. Make Sense of What is Happening
  6. Take Hard Decisions

If there is one word that best describes the results of the 2014 Indian Parliamentary Elections, it is SURPRISE. For some it was a very pleasant surprise – for others it was a nasty shock. But nobody, including the paid analysts, really had any clue how close they were to the truth when they predicted a landslide victory to the BJP.

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Congratulations are in Order

Congratulations to the BJP for running a brilliant campaign and being able to influence the mind of the constituents to vote it into power, and how! Narendra Modi was decisive, communicated incessantly, used the media with aplomb, took every advantage that came his way (including the six week staggered voting), capitalized on a cadre of dedicated people who did him proud, and stuck exclusively to a development agenda which resonated with the common man. The fact that the BJP was voted out of power after Gujarat 2002 was a sign that was not ignored. This time around the BJP stayed clear of the RSS inspired Hindutva agenda and leveraged the good governance in the states where they had the government to promise the same in the country. The hard work and complete dedication of the RSS/BJP cadre can only be admired and applauded. Modi didn't exaggerate when he said that it was because of them that he won the election. That is a fact they can be proud of.

Congratulations to the Congress for being so spectacularly blind to the writing on the wall even though it was in the form of an electronic, neon lit billboard in pulsating psychedelic lights – predicting its demise. An epitaph must necessarily be brief.

Congratulations to the Muslims for being completely blind once again and getting themselves divided so fragmentally that for the first time in our post-independence history, the famous 'Muslim vote' that everyone respected and feared was rendered completely ineffective. UP, with all the major Madaaris, Aligarh Muslim University, and some districts with over 40% Muslim voters didn't get a single seat in Parliament. If that doesn't show that Muslims voted for the BJP then what else does it show?

Congratulations to this great nation of ours for being able to run an election of this magnitude in a fair and orderly manner, and then compiling results which today are so clearly accepted as being fair and accurate that nobody even thinks of challenging them or claiming that the election was rigged. Hats off to the Election Commission for a sterling job that we as Indians can truly be proud of and boast about.

How Did This Happen?

I am not going to do any lengthy analysis, I am sure we are going to see a lot of those in the coming weeks – after all the media has to extract the last drop of juice from the orange. I just want to share the big ones, the reasons why this big victory of the BJP happened.

 

  1. Hubris

Congress was living in a world of make-believe, living off a legacy that had actually dried up at least a decade earlier, but even the final wet mud at the bottom of the pool went dry now. Failure of dynastic politics – one hopes it has truly failed and will not merely be replaced by another dynasty – in a nation that is more used to kings and dynasties than to democracy is something to be pleased about in itself. One hopes the next step will be leadership based on ethical and moral principles and not on caste – but maybe I am stretching it.

  1.  BJP

The BJP ran a campaign completely devoid of the Hindutva agenda of its previous incarnation. It spoke of good governance, justice, economic empowerment, and inclusiveness. So one must ask if this is what got them the votes – and not the RSS inspired Hindutva mandir/anti-Muslim agenda. After all, the fact that the BJP won 73 out of 80 seats in UP shows that Muslims voted for them – which in itself was totally unexpected – unless one considers the spectacular failure of Mulayam Singh's Samajwadi Party, the elephantine megalomania of Mayawati's BSP, and the sleepwalking of Congress. Then what was unexpected becomes logical.

We can only forget or ignore the power of culture and history at our own peril. We are a nation that has a 5000 year history of kings and just 65 years of democracy. We are a nation which in that 5000 year history never rebelled against a king. We worship strength and power. We see kindness and compassion as weakness. Greatness is defined in our culture as the ability to break the law with impunity, which extends from the 'great man' to his servants and followers and so to be associated with a 'great man' is seen as a personal advantage. A 'great man' in our culture is one who can protect those who do his bidding no matter if it is right or wrong. Modi projected himself as that 'great man' – the electorate proved that he was accepted in this role. We today consider corruption merely as a cost of doing business, to be factored into our rates and costs and justified by the benefits that accrue. Corruption is now in our blood and has changed from being an aberration to an aspiration. There is no stigma attached to it at any level. It is merely seen as payment for service. It is only when we pay and don't get the service that we complain – which is what happened in the Congress government.

Equality, egalitarianism, social causes, ideology, and even justice is seen by most Indians as interesting at best – but not something that they are willing to invest in or will commit to live by. The demise of the Trade Unions and the Communist Party and the decimation of the BSP (Dalit Party) in UP are cases in point. We are selfish people – we look for personal benefit above all else. Modi promised us personal benefit and we believed him. It remains to be seen what he is able to deliver – but the Sensex reflects this public optimism.

  1.  Divisions

2014 was a year characterized by one spectacular meteor flying across the political horizon –  clad in a funny cap and a muffler round his neck, broom in hand – Arvind Kejriwal – who meteor-like seems to have crashed in flames. However while he was flying, he emanated the light of hope – the hope of clean government, power to the common man, the nemesis of the big business-brigands who populate our corridors of power, and an end to our crippling corruption. He upset everyone's calculations in Delhi elections, trounced Congress, rendered Sheila Dixit homeless, and then didn't occupy the house which he was entitled to do – thereby presenting Manmohan Singh with his own retirement home. While in flight he captured the imagination of the common man – the 'aam admi' – and many voted for him or at least for what he stood for. But the votes were not enough to save him or his seat. Imagination not converted into a ballot box victory. Good case in point about the power of decisiveness and the failure of philosophy. We are very pragmatic people who like definite things. Arvind Kejriwal miscalculated and didn't realize that philosophy doesn't sell. Neither does being slapped in public – it may get you pity – but it doesn't get you respect. Calling it 'Gandhian' is incorrect because Gandhiji was never slapped by any Indian and in any case he never had to win an election. We Indians want a powerful decisive leader – not one who can't even protect himself from being slapped. Costly miscalculation for Kejriwal. Sad for us all.

Using UP as a good example of what happened across the country – on one side was the committed BJP voter who would come out in 48°C temperatures to cast his vote for his party. On the other side was the Congress/Secular party voter who had to choose between BSP, Samajwadi, AAP, Congress and many smaller parties – and he did – all to the benefit of the BJP. So in a manner of speaking the BJP is beholden to all those who voted for Congress, BSP, Samajwadi, AAP and others for its spectacular victory.It shows also that the single-minded interest of the voter is an economic agenda in pursuit of which he is able to forgive and forget everything else. No matter how unsavory and unidealistic this sounds, this appears to be the reality of the Indian voter across all divides. What also contributed is the quality of the Muslim leader – Mukhtar Ansari is a case in point – who is so completely pathetic and uninspiring that it is little wonder that they chose Modi over him. So would you and I.

The Ulama engrossed as they have been in their internal conflicts for the past several years, completely unconnected with their constituents, were rendered completely ineffective including those who entered politics – after all if you join the party of (Mukhtar Ansari) a convicted criminal what else do you expect than to be ignored – and good riddance.  Walking the talk is essential. If you talk unity and walk dispute it costs. Wonder if our Ulama will learn the lesson.

Now that this has happened and we all seem to be in a state of shock – the big question is what must we Muslims do? In my view we need to do the following which will be difficult and bitter, but then the alternative is even worse to contemplate. I hope we are able to see the reality of what we face and have the guts to do what we need to do if we really want to ensure a secure future for generations yet unborn. Do we have it in us to act? History will bear witness.

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  1. Edward Kefas

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  2. NTP

    Dear Sir,
    You have synthesized a fair analysis. However, let us rise above religions, we do not need a hindu, a muslim, a sikh, and a christian representative of India to the UN. What we need is, and I think you agree: modern education, grooming and empowerment of modern thinking people on the whole. We need to think in terms of human beings, in terms of progress, in terms of growth for all; not just in terms of a community in particular.
    When developed and an educated society, everyone can follow their own faith, religion, beliefs in the privacy of their own homes. With equal respect for the other, be it religion, faith, belief system, gender, color, cast and creed. Communal carnage happens in the poorest of the poor neighbourhoods and communities. It also happens, granted, at the hand of insane zealots like Hitler, or in modern times in Sarajevo, Serbia Herzegovina, in Africa, in Seria; however again and again propelled by a disbalance in wealth, colored unmistakably by religion.
    I think we all should aspire to a better economic future, a better informed and educated tomorrow and a better appreciation for each other. There is no doubt in my mind that India is your home as much as it is mine; you are as loyal or more as I; and you have equally as deep roots if not deeper, and appreciation for your motherland as I. You and I are Indians. Therefore, let us work towards and hope for a unified today; not defined by narrow definitions, not delineated by religion, not circumspect by ethnic identities; and certainly not daunted by sceptical fools who do not know what they are doing and what they have done.
    Let us raise fair leaders of tomorrow.

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    • Sihtric Anilla

      Amen. You said it best. Religion is an extremely private matter. I’m almost shocked how people display it in public. Most of our present day problems would just fizzle when this genie is kept indoors. It’s an extension of the church-state separation. I’m not interested in your religion and you shouldn’t be in mine. Peace out.

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    • I.S.M. Habibullah (@Fire_flash_ex)

      How long would the mankind need to realize that there is the one, the almighty, to whom all of us are indebted.

      And as far as practice of religion is concerned, would you agree with Druidism? It’s high time you spent your good will to dedicate your time in knowing the religions in better.

      And you would certainly find the right one if your eyes are open for verily the truth and the falsehood are very distinct and clear.

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  3. Venkat

    As I Hindu who grew with numerous Muslim friends I applaud general sentiment of this article. Never been a fan of Gandhis. Unfortunately they seem to be default place holder for secular forces. Unless people organize and embrace live and let live philosophy we will living in the shadow of someone like Modi.

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  4. Shaheen

    Today’s times are tough for our young generation. Facts are manipulated in the name of culture, religion, power, existence and personal gains. So be aware and reasonable. Get authentic sources and facts. Our leaders are corrupt because we are corrupt.

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  5. Sue

    If that doesn’t show that Muslims voted for the BJP then what else does it show?

    Maybe that many Muslims didnt turn up and failed to vote sufficiently for an alternative.
    Also be caustious about : ‘Congratulations to the Muslims for being completely blind’
    While it may be true for some, many robably see something else and many face serious pressures to vote for a particular party or person and can very difficultly do otherwise. And dont come and spout about the secrecy of the ballot this doesnot mean much in many countries of the world

    On the whole a beautiful peice with balance views but just want to make sure you understand that sometimes things run deeper than what it appears on the surface and not all is what it seems.

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  6. Major Razor

    I’ll follow the author’s example and start by offering my congratulations. Well done on this neatly packaged and well-articulated piece. It’s refreshing to hear a response from the anti-BJP confederacy that isn’t simmering with passive-aggressive neuroses such as the highly publicized article by Gopalkrishna Gandhi. This author clearly has a greater reign of his emotions than that descendant of Mahatma Gandhi.

    Onto the substance…

    I agree with several of the points made here including the need for the Muslim Indian for greater investment in the long-term well-being of his community. However, I can’t help but roll my eyes at the victim complex and sly contradictions with which this article is dripping. We are simultaneously asked to forget and forgive what the Islamic invaders did to India AND feel guilty about the riots visited upon the Muslim community. “Now wait a minute,” I imagine the author saying. “Muhammad of Ghor’s rape and plunder of Hindu civilization and the precedent he set for countless Islamic warlords was eons ago. The UP riots happened just last year. So let’s stay relevant here.” But I am staying relevant here. The psyche of the Indian Hindu wasn’t reset in 1947. The long history of subjugation wasn’t wiped out from our collective consciousness on Midnight August 15th, 1947. The referendum against Congress and it’s vote-bank politics was in part a pro-development exercise but on a more visceral level it was an impulse to understand our lost identity as Hindu Indians. And yet the beneficiaries of the Modi wave aren’t Hindus alone (as much as the author would like you to believe) – it is all Indians. A more secure and well-represented Hindu populace is a less frustrated and indignant Hindu populace. I hope the author and the Muslims he claims to represent would prefer the former, for all our sakes.

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    • Major Razor

      Thanks, Sunil.

      I agree with your sentiments. We are Hindus today because of the bravery and integrity of our ancestors in the face of bloodthirsty proselytizers. Moreover, we did not encroach on the proud civilizations of Persia and Europe to spread our faith by the sword. I do not believe that is the Hindu way. In fact, the dissemination of a religion by violent means demonstrates its inherent insecurities.

      As for the sporadic and infrequent displays of vengeance on the part of some Hindus in recent times, the best way I can explain it is the way in which a biological organism’s antibodies fight back against foreign pathogens. It’s a hard-wired and utterly understandable urge towards self-preservation, common to all communities. In fact, if someone wanted to demolish the Kabba in Mecca and build a Church or Synagogue over it, an instant firestorm of dissent would erupt in the Islamic world, hundred times as strident as the protests that ultimately brought down the Babri Masjid in Ayodhya.

      Any way, I have a feeling that if I waited for the author of the original article to enlighten his outlook and apologize on behalf of Indian muslims, whom he ostensibly represents, for what their fascistic forebears have done to Mother India, I might be waiting indefinitely… But I do enjoy being pleasantly surprised :)

      Razor

      P.S. *”…greater command of his emotions” in my first comment.

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      • Amad

        Wow. This comment is reflection of a sick mentality. Dismissing violence based on a sick biological example is really amazing.

        I could say the Al-Qaeda types use this analogy… after all Muslims are the biggest victims of wars and terrorism— consider all the countries being invaded by the West and how Islamists who won democratic elections are being removed out of power extrajudicially. So really Al-Qaeda could say that the terrorism conducted by them is a biological anti-bodies in the nations invaded.

        All extremists are just cut from the same cloth… hindu, jewish, buddhist, muslim…. all sickos.

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      • Arif

        First of all i do not undestand what you mean by “we”. There were only different small kingdoms fighting each other in the past. Haven’t you heard about ashwamegha yagya… And how the Hindu kings used it to expand their dominion and impose war on the states who refuse to subjugate. People like you convenient forget these things.

        India was united only during the time of Ashoka, Mughals and British. And of these, mughals were the ones to rule for the longest period. And Indians must be thankful to them.. For they not only strengthened the country as a whole but immensely contributed in bringing common civic sense , good echoes and culture in the country.

        People like you always harp on the looters with Muslim names who attacked Hindu kingdoms.. and disregard the fact that even the Mughal empire has been under constant attack from such looters and attackers, some of which were also muslims e.g. Ahmad shah abdali for instance…

        Unless you have conciously chosen to stick with this selective amnesia, I urge you to read an unbiased history of india again and clear your mind.

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      • Major Razor

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      • Arif

        I wonder how you guys have time to just continuously sit online and keep commenting …

        Anyways, Just because i debunked your theory of “Hindus not attacking any one”, I become “anti-hindu” ? . That’s the crux of the problem with your thought process… If someone does not agree to you, he/she immediately becomes anti-hindu and anti-india …

        Your history claims are at best laughable.. I know your ilk have strong problems with the current documented history. You guys don’t even accept the indian history ..

        There may have been some muslim rulers who have done injustices … but why I or any other general muslim needs to apologize for them .. This is non sense. If you want an apology , go back in time and ask that muslim ruler if you can…

        Muslims will always be a positive force for the nation. Always remember that it was muslim rulers who united india and gave its residents (including you and me) a country which we associate ourselves as indians.

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      • ZAI

        ” even the Mughal empire has been under constant attack from such looters and attackers, some of which were also muslims e.g. Ahmad shah abdali for instance…”

        Brother,
        To us Afghans the Mughals following Akbar were despotic looters and occupiers, and Ahmad Shah Abdali freed us from their rule as well as later cementing independence from Iran following the death of Nadir Shah. So if you say Abdali was a looter and attacker then must also be acknowledged that Mughals were seen that way by others by the same standard. Mughal rule was unwelcome in both Afghanistan and Pashtunkhwa post-Akbar…please see poetry of Khushal Khan Khattak for examples of anti-Mughal sentiment among Pashtuns.

        These things are complicated. I agree Abdali visited a lot of wrong on people east of Indus…but by the same degree Mughals and Sikh rulers did the same in the other direction. Things are not so stark…and is perfect example of Br. Amad and also your own advice to keep these things in the past, because rehashing them causes unnecessary conflict. Aside from few cases like Hitler who were pure evil, it is complicated since people have both their praise worthy aspects and also their flaws. All are human.

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  7. interested

    Overall, a very interesting, balanced and enjoyable piece. As a non-religious hindu Indian living in the USA, I really wanted to understand how the average Indian muslims feel about this, and this has given me a good view.

    I applaud that you think you are Indians first. I agree with you that the muslim forefathers made a decision, a choice to stay in India and you don’t have to prove your loyalty to anyone. And that is true – the hindus had no choice, but the muslims did and they chose India.

    That said, I too rolled my eyes at the victim complex. Now try to think about how average hindus feel.

    The whole world is scared of fundamentalist muslims (whether you want to accept it or not). There seems to be a more disproportionate number of angry muslims than others (in today’s context. Christianity has its brutal past). We see how other countries that are ruled by muslim law limit education and human rights to women. As a woman, I am afraid of increasing influence of islam in the public sphere in my country, if indeed the religion fundamentally dictates that women have limited rights, can get married as a child and is not as worthy as a man. The prophet married a child, but can we put that aside and not take it too literally as it was the product of times and not something that can be followed by men today?

    I have many muslim friends who I went to school and college with and they are not scary. However, where is the condemnation when so many atrocities in the world happens in the name of Islam? You mention that the Indian muslims need not worry or associate or be responsible for the Saudi muslims. But does that mean you disagree with their views? Are you okay with following the religion at home and not let it be a part of the law and civic life?

    Are Indian muslims ready to accept that all Indians should be treated equal irrespective of caste, religion or gender? Are they okay with the uniform civil code where Sharia law will not be given any standing in a court of law? There will be no “Hindu marriage act” and “muslim marriage act”? Muslim men cannot behave differently from Hindu men and the men cannot have different divorce or inheritance laws from men (whatever religion)?

    Or do you demand that islam should be given special privileges because that is freedom of religion? And remember, it is not one person, it is the entire community. At what point will a muslim or a hindu take to the streets in a spree of revenge and murder (like what happened at Gujarat?). That can never happen in a civilized society irrespective of the religion.

    What’s missing in this piece is some self reflection of what the community is doing wrong and how it can improve trust in the eyes of the citizenry. Every group should do this, but the minorities especially so, since it affects them directly. The Saudi and other men are not known for peace. But why can’t the Indian muslims strive for peace?

    I am totally against the RSS/Hindutva/rath yatra spectacles. I could be biased, but that was created to stand up for some of the other total lack of intolerance. Every group should self examine and steer away from violence and try to communicate through dialogue. And education is the only thing that will move the needle in that area.

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    • Major Razor

      Madam,

      You are correct in criticizing Islam’s contempt for the female sex. The appalling moral bankruptcy of Sharia makes it unsuited for civilized nations. Unfortunately, the so-called secularist (but not really) Congress that created the tradition of winning elections based on vote banks clearly doesn’t care about the plight of women. Their failure to strip away special rights from Indian muslims and enforce a uniform civil code makes India look more backward than Egypt and Turkey – muslim-majority countries where Islamic polygamy is outlawed.

      One other thing, I wouldn’t be so quick to give a pass to the ancestors of Indian Muslims who “decided” to stay in India. While it is true that some Muslims remained in India out of sense of anti-separatism and served the nation with patriotic fervor such as Maulana Azad, many others happened to not end up in West and East Pakistan for logistical and financial reasons, especially those located in the heartland of India. This less talked about aspect of the history of Indian partition is still felt today. For instance, note the celebratory mood in Muslim neighborhoods in India when Pakistan defeats India in international cricket. These anti-Indian ghettos are colloquially called ‘chota pakistan’ not without reason.

      Razor

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      • Mahmud

        Major

        The Muslims of today were not responsible for killing your ancestors. They are innocent and had nothing to do with it. Justifying your lack of sympathy towards Muslim victims is like me justifying my lack of sympathy for Hindu girls forced into marriage with Muslims in Pakistan because some Hindu men raped Muslim women in India.

        Those Muslim women who are raped in India have as much right to my sympathy as the Hindu girls who are forcibly married(i.e. raped) in Pakistan.

        I would be utterly sick and cruel if I couldn’t afford sympathy to them based on what their brethren have done to my women.

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      • Mahmud

        The appalling moral bankruptcy of the Hindu caste system makes it unpalatable for any society.

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      • Major Razor

        Mahmud,

        You speak as if I am asking for the slaughter of Muslims living in India and the termination of your culture. That is not my intention. In fact, my value system abhors ethnic violence. You either are pretending to miss my point intentionally or you really are ignorant.

        We would simply like you to acknowledge that the friction that presently exists between our communities did not arise ex nihilo, did not fall from the sky. There’s a long history behind the conflict and a failure by your community to acknowledge that history fans the flames of that conflict. Our request is you affirm your community’s role in the historical abuse of Mother India. This is a simple request and to deny it is provocative. Just as to deny the Shoah or Holocaust is provocative to Jews.

        As for the caste system, even the Congress-hero, Jawaharlal Nehru praised the caste system in his universally celebrated book ‘The Discovery of India’. Among other things, he argues that the caste system was devised to organize society by trade in order to increase its efficiency – what economists calls the division of labor – and it worked very well for its time. Try to educate yourself before you make these fashionable and ultimately hollow attacks on Indian culture.

        Unless you begin constructive dialogue, there will be no progress. You can start by some collective self-reflection.

        Razor

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      • Amad

        Wow “Razor” is razor-sharp in his razism. He even defends the caste-system that subjugates people to a lifetime of a certain stature based on which belly they were born in. These comments have been really eye-opening and go a long way in showing how dangerous this hindu extremist narrative is becoming.

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      • interested

        I really don’t want to get into Hindu vs Muslim argument here. Hindus are not great in treating women right, For that matter, women have been treated badly throughout history by all religions. Manu Neeti, Sati, inauspicious widows, dowry – the hindu list goes on. And also, we have no control over where and when we are born. So, I don’t think we need to heap the entire responsibility (or pride) on the current living beings for the deeds of ancestors.

        My point is though, if you want equality, everything is equal. You cannot have special reservations, special interpretation of the law etc. You can also not get angry when you perceive any slight against you, but be fine and in fact be the cause of slighting others.

        A secular country means the laws are not based on your religion, it is based on the constitution. Otherwise, there is no sense in calling us Indians when we get different rewards and punishments based on whether I am muslim or Hindu, man or woman.

        Cultural change will take generations. But at least in common public sphere, under the eyes of the law, we should all be the same. If suggesting that is ill treating the minorities, then we have a fundamental difference. I argue that the parties like Congress who play the divide and conquer game are unsecular and BJP which talks about uniform civil code is more secular.

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    • Amad

      “However, where is the condemnation when so many atrocities in the world happens in the name of Islam?”

      Unfortunately this is the same trope raised by Western Islamophobes. Just google “Muslims condemn terrorism” and you can spare us this oft-repeated stereotype.

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      • interested

        Maybe. I could be wrong because I’ve never seen or heard major condemnation. I apologize if I was just not aware of it. The fact is I am a person who goes out and seeks opinion, and I have not heard much of it. And that is a PR problem.

        With lack of this information, it is hard for Hindus to understand where Indian muslims stand with respect to rest of the world. Are they more milder, moderate or extreme?

        It seems that while a constitution has a clear wording and is interpreted by supreme court and can be amended when times change, something like religious law is filled with dogma, is subject to vast interpretation depending on who reads it and how it benefits them, does not have enough representation (women cannot be part of the judges) and there is no recourse.

        Without going on with empty back and forth, here is my real question. I have asked it many times, but no one has responded. Please answer this question.

        How do Indian muslims feel about a uniform civil code where there is no Sharia law interpretation at all? Is that acceptable to them or not?

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      • Amad

        It is a PR problem— Muslims do have a long way to go in effective PR. But it is also a media problem. When only the negative things are considered newsworthy, then a condemnation is not even reported…

        But really in this age, one just has to google “muslims condemn terrorism” and you will get a million links… Start with this http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

        Now I don’t know about law specifics special to Muslims or other minorities in India. I do know that in the West, there are permissions to for minorities to engage in their own contracts. For example in financial or marital contracts— Muslims could do it under Islamic laws. I would also say that the situation of Muslims in India is unique in that the numbers are so large. So you have to find ways that Muslims can do their own thing, as long as it does not harm the rest of the population. Freedom of religion is a hall-mark of any democratic society.

        In any case, I would let an Indian Muslim speak on this issue due to my own lack of knowledge in the area.

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  8. Prashanth Yeri

    Very well balanced article. Religion is a private matter, which has unfortunately been brought out into political discourse by successive governments and parties to further their own cause and not of the society at large.

    The key for any community – majority or minority / rich or poor is too pull itself up by its bootstraps and get an education for its young. As we know, there are enough schools and colleges in this country where good education is available for deserving students. The minute one is educated, the focus will shift to leading a good life, in turn helping society at large, making religion a private affair.

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  9. Major Razor

    The moderator of this article has answered my criticisms of Islam with the typically fascistic response of censorship. They did that when Salman Rushdie published ‘The Satanic Verses’ , they did that after the innocuous Danish cartoons were printed and they are doing that here on muslimmatters.org. I gave the author a choice to either apologize or at least engage in debate (I love being proven wrong and learning new things) but he has chosen to take the cowardly route of shunning self-reflection and deleting my comments. Bravo. You inadvertently helped me by demonstrating my theses.

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    • Umm ZAKAriyya

      Your comments still here .

      If your comments were deleted , you must have violated their policy . State your views without being disrespectful to avoid it being deleted .

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      • Major Razor

        The removed were not so different than any that remain. Anyway, hate speech or “trolling” is not something I’m interested in or have time for. I wanted to offer an alternative perspective to the Indian Muslim problem and I believe I’ve done that with sufficient respect. Perhaps the solution is to not retreat into your turtle shell but to grow thicker skin and face the music. We can all get along only if there is constructive dialogue. I am willing to hear your side and change my views if your arguments are persuasive. However, all that is impossible if making any criticism is quickly labeled spewing hatred. That’s the sort of thing that makes our side grow weary of waiting for dialogue and instead go looking for solutions alone…

        Finally, I concede that Amad is right in suggesting that this isn’t a public forum and that you have complete freedom to censor/ban me here. I just doubt that would accomplish much.

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      • Amad

        You will find plenty of criticism here, which does not match your hate-speech.

        Do some soul-searching. Compare what I wrote, with respect and humility, against what you wrote. I have dealt with a lot of Muslim extremists, and really, you come off sounding just like them. You are not going to get anywhere with this kind of chip on your shoulder. Just as you have pride in your heritage, Muslims have pride in their heritage. And when you come here trying to “set matters right”, it reeks of arrogance and no one likes arrogance. If you think anyone would change or come to terms with you on “your terms”, then you are gravely mistaken. Listen and you will be listened to. That’s how discussions happen.

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      • Major Razor

        With respect, in light of the recent victories of my movement, I believe my need for soul-searching is much less urgent right now than yours is. We have been soul-searching for a long time and it seems we have emerged from the fog of confusion and despair created by anti-Hindu interests, ranging from the terror networks in Pakistan to the misguided and epicene leadership of Congress. We have emerged with an absolute majority, a powerful mandate handed to us by the people of India.

        Secondly, I have yet to encounter a single major rebuttal of any of the points I made. Just because certain historical facts make you uncomfortable does not mean they are hate speech.

        Your definition of a discussion is that I quietly absorb these lengthy blogs, listen to you pontificate and not utter a single dissenting opinion. Call me arrogant but I don’t share that definition.

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      • Amad

        I don’t know if I find your comment amusing or naive or both. “Your team” just recently won. They won the battle of votes, but will they win the battle of hearts and minds?

        As for soul-searching, no doubt Muslims have to do a lot of it, as the other article on Indian elections by Shaykh Mirza Baig illustrated. But soul-searching is not an activity only for the non-victorious, victors need it as much.

        More importantly, history has shown many great nations and great leaders have come and gone. There was a lot of hope for Obama yet he failed miserably as a leader and I was one of his huge supporters. The wise learn to take victories in stride, they don’t trample over the losers, because it is possible the losers will become your masters next time…

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    • Amad

      And you have demonstrated that you have not properly read our blog rules and regulations for a respectful decorum.

      This is our blog, not your free space to spew hatred. Thanks for your understanding.

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  10. Pips

    Let this time be a new begining – a re run of post August 1947, a perfect time to retrospect and start things afresh the way they should have been.

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  11. M

    “We forget and ignore that the decisions of Allāh subḥānahu wa ta’āla (glorified and exalted be He) are based on our actions.”

    I agree, I believe that the problem in South Asian Countries is not a political, but a social one. We have all the laws available but there is a question of implementing them. Because most people believe it is acceptable to take money from a person and let them jump the line, so we can use the money to jump the line ourselves.

    Let’s assume that we get honest leaders, but are we ready to stop lying, and cheating, and assuming that certain family names are better than the others? Will we stop treating the poor with disrespect because they have less money then we do? Are we ready to stop oppressing the the weak in our households, neighbourhoods and our community?

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  12. ajaz

    Well written article. Thanks for showing us the way forward.

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  13. Appan Varma

    COME TO KERALA and see how we Hindus , xians and Muslims live TOGETHER and how advanced is the muslim community over the hindus in education ( girls mainly as boys tend to move to Gulf , saudi etc early) and financially. It is the good action of the rulers of the state ( all anti hindu effectively in one sense – the communists , the Muslim League and xian kerala congress rules the state) that has helped this to be acvhieved

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  14. Wanderer19 (@RidzuanArabi)

    modi or anybody, they are all the same and don’t make any differences for Muslims. Even Obama can’t do anything that worthy of mention for Muslim people or country. I just hope and prays that no more mosque demolished, no more mass killing and none of our sisters raped or any of our children’s burned alive. I’m afraid of the facts that the history might repeats itself sometimes. Be prepared for the worse that might or might not happen and hold steadfast to the rope of Allah (self-note and reminder to myself and the others). No matter what, Palestine/Syria/Libya/Egypt/Afghan (the list goes on and on and on) and all the Muslims around the world will be in my hearts and prayers. Jum’ah Mubarak and Salam Jumaat.

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  15. Salahuddin Mohamed

    I CAN COME TO A CONCLUSION AFTER GOING THROUGH ALL THE COMMENTS ONE GROUP ANTI MUSLUM.ANOTHER GROUP ANTI HINDU THIRD GROUPAWAY FROM BOTH GROUPS.AS A MUSLIM IT IS OUR COUNTRY.THE FORE FATHERS HAVE DONE A GREAT BLUNDER IN DIVIDING THIS GREAT COUNTRY ON THE BASIS OF RELIGION. IN INDEPENDENT INDIA I ENJOYED AND CONTRIBUTED ENOUGH TO THIS COUNTRY.I AM MORE WORRIED ABOUT YOUNGER GENERATION.TO COME UP IN LIFE MUSLIMS SHOULD CONCENTRATE IN EDUCATION BOTH WORLDLY AND RELIGIOUS EDUCATION.THEN ONLY THEY CAN SHINE.FREE EDUCATION SHOULD BE GIVEN.ISLAM IS PEACE LOVING AND IS NOT A RELIGION FOR ONE COMMUNITY IT IS FOR THE WHOLE WORLD.ISLAM IS THE FIRST AND LAST PHILOSOPHYON THE EARTH.OTHER 99 PHILOSOPHYS ADDED UP.THE FIRST MAN ADAM LANDED ONLY IN OUR COUNTRY.MANY YEARS AGO CEYLON WAS PART OF INDIA.IN CEYLON YOU CAN SEE MOUNT ADAM.ADAM WAS PREACHING ISLAM ONLY.IN CONCLUSSION BJP ALREADY HAD TO BLACK SPOTS 1 1992 DEMOLISION OF BABRI MASJID.2.2002 GUJARATH RIOT.MR MODI SHOULD NOT DESTROY SECULAR FABRICS OF THIS COUNTRY.IF TOUCHES RAM TEMPLE,UNIFORM CIVIL LAW AND 370 HE WILL BE IN SOUP.WE CAN JUDGE HIS GOVERNMENT AFTER 365 DAYS.IN THIS JUNCTURE MUSLIM SHOULD BUILD UP BENOVALENT LEADER.ALL THE BEST FOR THE MODI GOVERNMENT

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