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Anwar al-Awlaki 2001 vs Anwar al-Awlaki 2010 – What Changed? (Video)
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zdfds
November 11, 2010 at 8:23 PM
lame
ibn Ahmed
November 12, 2010 at 7:11 AM
Absolutely not true. Anwar al-awlaki had these views BEFORE he went to jail. Go and look up his lectures on Jihad before he went to jail and he held the same views. Yes he didn’t have these views in 2001/2 but a few years later before he went to jail he certainly did.
Unfortunately the person in this video did not do his research well enough.
Nusybah
April 15, 2012 at 9:41 AM
brother leave this hypocrite who sell thier deen for a miser gain
Nusybah
April 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM
i mean the hypocrites fadel solim,umar ibn qattab warned us by this learned hypocrites who wil mislead the ummah,plus imam anwar was a man who lived what he preached,feared no one but ALLAH,he lived and died for islam.we love him and look upto him,and he was not limited to this dunya woe to the ones who live for today where should you hide on a day which is 50,000 yearz what wil tell ALLAH the almighty?plus anwar didnt need to answer to thier silly videos,he needs 2 answer to none but ALLAH,may ALLAH destory the enemies of al islam
Hassan
November 11, 2010 at 8:43 PM
Ok who is this gentleman in video?
Ify Okoye
November 11, 2010 at 9:29 PM
Good question, Fadel Soliman, have now added his name above the video. Thank you.
Aba Abal Qaqa
November 11, 2010 at 8:49 PM
I agree with the brother that Killing Innocent Civilians is not justified from shariah. So how shall we then approach our brethren and cousins here in the west. Does it mean that it also takes away the right of brothers or sisters who are trying to defend their land. What should do they do then? Sit back relax and do Dawa….
Please elaborate
Amir (MR)
November 11, 2010 at 10:38 PM
I think you missed the last part of the video, where he said fight those who fight you. Also it seems that his entire message was about Awlaki’s call to kill non Muslim Americans.
Amir (MR)
November 11, 2010 at 10:51 PM
There is a part of me that thinks this whole business of terrorism is a huge money maker for the private security firms who are paid around the world to protect resources from terrorists. Maybe Al-Qaeda is a creation of the US and they pay of all these Muslims to pretend to be terrorists.
I mean in reality the people that bleed the most from all terrorism from Al-Qaeda are Muslims.
Anyways that’s just a conspiracy theory within myself.
Farhat-il-Faariha
November 13, 2010 at 10:00 AM
Well Brother Amir… I’d Have To Agree That This Was Also My Theory.. The Whole Money Making Scheme..
I Have Believed That Al-Qaeda Was Funded By The US…. Or Maybe, They May Have actors.. (Hollywood-Style ;) )..
But Then Again… People Believe What The Media Carries To Them On A Shiny Polished Plate…
:(
Amir (MR)
November 11, 2010 at 10:57 PM
Arabic one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WvSkerydKc
Nadia
November 11, 2010 at 11:21 PM
The two questions are: why did Sheikh Anwar not respond, because it does not warrant a response…the second question is why did he change in jail, because having all this time at your disposal, you begin thinking…why what how when…I am trying to put this into context, the most humailiating experience for the Nabi SAWS was Ta’if, Allah SWT gave him the oppertunity to destroy the people of Ta’if, but his response was one of mercy…and Sheikh Anwar’s call is to kill innocent civilians…how does one put this into context or is Sheikh Anwar a modern, Malcolm X?
Umar
November 12, 2010 at 3:38 AM
I’ve always been fascinated by Imam Awlaki and admired his ability to speak, influence, teach and sticking to the authentic Islamic scriptures. He is indeed a fascinating scholar and whether we like it or not he deserves appreciation.
But I’ve noticed that he had always failed to provide authentic material to prove his point regarding the killing of non combatants.
I agree with the belief that Islam prohibits the killing of non combatants who don’t explicitly take part in the war against Islam/Muslims.
Alhamdulillah, this video was great.
Nusybah
April 15, 2012 at 2:03 PM
what anwar said was the shariah i blve u should get enough knowlge to just talk about a scholar like that,
SYousuf
November 12, 2010 at 4:47 AM
I haven’t still heard brother Anwar Al Awlaki say kill innocent Americans.In-fact he made a generic statement of killing Americans.Having said that if you would have heard his lecture,”Don’t trust them” link for which i have posted below.He has clearly mentioned when we refer to people who are plotting against Muslims and killing our brothers & sisters,we don’t need to bring common masses in picture instead we refer to their leaders, the administrators and their policy makers.I still believe my brother Anwar Al Awlaki instead of believing non believers or hypocrites with in Muslim community.May Allah(swt) protect him and guide each one of us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_63HO6C9KTg&feature=related
Mansoor Ansari
November 12, 2010 at 8:39 AM
Yes this makes more sense….
Farhan
November 12, 2010 at 11:23 PM
I agree with you about not trusting clearly lying news. They lie left and right. After a wave of false stories a few years back, I started to catch on to that. I tend to be skeptical nowadays. We are in agreement there.
But, anyone who has listened to the new-Anwar al-Awlaki can see that he DOES say things that are not in accordance with traditional Islam. Most notably, killing civilians. This is not MemriTV or CNN saying this stuff, these are from his own talks. I sincerely wish he would stop.
May Allah guide us all.
jichi
November 14, 2010 at 6:26 AM
Can you elaborate with some reference on where the new Awlakhi makes such claims i.e. killing civilians.
Abu Ibrahim
November 13, 2010 at 10:08 PM
I can’t find the actual video, but Al jazeera did report on him urging the killing of Americans. Follow this link to read the story.
Of course one may assume that Al Jazeera is in cahoots with the Pentagon and this is all faked to tarnish the sheikh’s image. And if this was CNN or Fox, I probably would.
But I’m willing to give Al jazeera a lttle more credibility. Also, I don’t see the upside in the U.S. government going through all that trouble.
IMHO, this is authentic and his actual words taken in the correct context.
And Allah knows best.
broahmed
November 12, 2010 at 9:28 AM
I think one of the scariest things about the Awlaki’s current ideology (and others espousing similar material) is that Muslims become valid targets too. These “shaykhs” are well-aware that there are significant Muslim populations in the Western world; indiscriminate targeting of civilians (e.g. planting bombs on planes) means potentially killing Muslims as well. Murdering innocents, whether Muslim or non-Muslim, is terrible enough to begin with. But it just goes to show how radical these people’s mindsets are when they won’t hesitate to authorize/commit acts which kill Muslims as well.
Tahmid
November 12, 2010 at 2:35 PM
Salam brother, I just want to post my views on your post no offense intended, I watched a video by shaykh yasir qadhi where he quoted a hadith where Prophet Muhammad(saw) said that “I have nothing to do with muslims who settle among the kuffar” and shaykh yasir said the context of this hadith is that Prophet(saw) freed himself and the sahaba from the killing of the muslims who lived in non muslim land while the muslims were at war with the non muslims. What I am saying is that if a muslim country declares war on america and by accident muslims are killed then it is not the fault of the muslims so if a muslim ruler (not random group of people or terrorists) declares war on america or any other non muslim country then we shouldn’t be living in that country and if we live there and get killed then the muslims that kill us are not responsible for it. I absolutely agree with you that these people who are killing muslims and non muslim innocent people they have no right to do that.
broAhmed
November 12, 2010 at 5:35 PM
SubhanAllah, thank you bro/sis, I had forgotten that hadith. I am glad you made the distinction between a war declared by a Muslim ruler and a “random group of people or terrorists.” I am also glad we agree that these people who are targeting innocents are in the wrong. Again, thanks for the hadith. Should the day come where it is applicable, I’ll be ready to make hijrah inshaAllah!
Mansoor Ansari
November 12, 2010 at 3:43 PM
Agreed… but realistically speaking even if they target non-civilian… Muslims will get killed. There’s no modern war without collateral damage. I m sure no one is or can go back to fighting war they used… I don’t much abt wars before WWII but every war since then has caused deaths of huge numbers of civilians intentionally or unintentionally. That’s the sad reality.
In the last war between Israel & Lebanon… Israel bombed airports, sea ports, highways and even grain silos & dairy farms. The justification given by Israel & their allies in the west was these could be used by Hezbollah as resources in the war against them. All of a sudden these civilian targets became legal military targets. So can others not use the same justification used by Israel, US & UK? I know it’s ridiculous but can the west label others as evil for using the same logic?
I was watching a WWII documentary on History Channel on Wednesday, they were showing the bombing of Hamburg by Allied forces. The whole town was flattened, men, women, children, babies everyone was targeted. The commentator said the Nazis attacked and killed our men, women & children and it was imp to retaliate back in the same manner, Allied forces had to take war to their doorstep & show them the consequences of war, make them suffer too for them realize & stop the war. To this day… most of our fellow citizens condone the attacks on Hiroshima & Nagasaki… attacks which killed hundreds of thousands of innocents. Civilians are killed daily in Palestine, Afghanistan & Pakistan to kill one resistance fighter, and many times it’s only civilians who end up dead! And all that is justified in the cause of winning the war, we don’t hate them for it.. infact we get along perfectly with them despite of having such outrageous opinions. But when the tables are turned, a Muslim makes the same argument, he is labelled a extremist radical terrorist!
While I do not condone targeting civilians but that’s exactly what the west have always done in war. The mighty & powerful can wage any way they want but the those resistance are called evil for doing the same and that is the ugly truth!
Yamin
December 10, 2010 at 12:41 AM
“While I do not condone targeting civilians but that’s exactly what the west have always done in war. ”
If you are so certain that the west will attack your wives and kids why do you keep picking a fight? Makes no sense to me. It’s just plain dumb.
Mansoor Ansari
December 10, 2010 at 10:48 AM
If ur solution is for ppl to accept American occupations then that’s not going to happen.
And this is not the case against Muslims only but in all wars they have fought whether directly or by proxy. It’s hypocritical for them to say they can target innocent civilians but their enemies can’t indulge in the same acts. It’s either wrong for both sides or it isn’t wrong for either, they can’t have it both ways!
Tahmid
November 12, 2010 at 2:19 PM
Salam, I used to be a fan of anwar awlaki so when I heard he condones al qaeda and killing of innocent civilians I was shocked, May Allah(swt) guide him and guide those who have gone to the wrong path by following him.
Nusybah
April 16, 2012 at 7:15 AM
may be u should pray 4 ALLAH 2 guide you
AbdulHaq
November 13, 2010 at 1:30 AM
http://www.salafimanhaj.com/pdf/SalafiManhaj_Awlaki.pdf
zdfds
November 13, 2010 at 8:59 AM
wow..do we really need a 134 page document to understand something that is so obvious.
“Salafi Manhaj”people are a joke…all they do is criticize other.
why don’t you also post the artivle they have on yasir qadhi while you are at it.
Anonymous
November 16, 2010 at 2:44 PM
I stopped being “Salafi” (in quotes because I do not consider them on the path of the Salaf anymore) because of two main reasons. One of them was the obsession with “refuting” others. In other words, an ‘aqidah that is defined more by what they are not than what they are. The reason-based “their positions are wrong because of XYZ” came about later.
That isn’t to say I don’t love and respect our Sheyookh. If they said ‘jump’, I’d ask ‘How high?’. I just don’t think the ‘Salafi’ path is correct anymore.
Abu Sanwan
November 18, 2010 at 10:03 AM
You judged Salafiyah based upon the actions of some Salafis who spend too much time refuting others. That is a lack of knowledge on what Salafiyah actually is.
You wouldn’t judge Islam based upon the actions of a few bad Muslims, would you? Of course not. To do so would be ignorance. Yet you did so when it comes to following the way of the Salaf.
May Allah guide you and me to the straight path. Ameen.
FollowerOfISLAM
November 21, 2010 at 8:08 PM
So are you saying that salafiyyah and Islam are 2 different things? There is no difference between SALAFI and muslim. A muslim is one who follows islam and aims to follow it like our pious Salaf. However Madaakhilah or Soofiyyah Jadidiyyah or Murjiatul Asr or Jama’atul Hijrah wa tabdee3 is another thing!! These wannabe salafis are wallahi nothing but loss to Islam and are just another misguided group. may Allah guide them and protect Islam and the muslims from their sharr.
Abdullah
July 8, 2012 at 7:29 AM
That always criticize each others. May Allah guide us. Ameen !
I am a Muslim!
November 13, 2010 at 7:31 AM
Assalamu alaikum. I am concerned MM is turning their website into gossip columns and sensation stories. Please be careful.
zdfds
November 13, 2010 at 8:57 AM
Agreed. The so-called “shaykhs” on this website hardly participate.
I am a Muslim!
November 13, 2010 at 9:44 AM
“The so-called “shaykhs†on this website hardly participate”
Well thats a nice thing either! I have taken a class with some of them who write articles here and they have more knowledge that me that’s for sure! And they are human like the rest of us and I don’t agree with everything they say, but I respect what they have done for me in the past and make dua for them. Show some mercy for Allah’s sake!
Your sister
November 13, 2010 at 9:20 AM
Salam warat wabart…
may AllahSWT bless him for everythin good that he did and may HeSWT correct him if he’s wrong in certain opinions…and Allah knows best who’s guided and who’s misguided…
i just pray and wish for one thing…that we learn to respect others and be preoccupied with our own short comings….
in these blessed days i hope we all make sincere dua to AllahSWT…to unite the ummah… for us to overcome our petty differences and help eachother in righteousness and patience… for us to develop humility and pray sincerely for the guidance of the misguided and steadfastness for the guided ones…
may AllahSWT help us to treat our brothers and sisters with mercy and protect us from being a cause for their destruction in this world or akhira!
Wallah….how i wish we were united…i know it’s not going to be a 100% thing but atleast the majority…
may AllahSWT protect us from deviating after guiding us to the truth..and may HeSWT protect us all from the plots of the devil and his allies whether hidden or apparent…
and most importantly may HeSWT grant us blessed return to Him…Allahumma Aameen!
my salam to all my muslim brothers and sisters around the globe…we are one family :) Alhamdulillah!
take care
with prayers
ur sister in islam
Mostafa Amini
November 13, 2010 at 9:47 AM
As Salaamu Alykum,
Someone take down that “Salafi” Manhaj link before it brainwashes some poor, ignorant person!
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MuslimBrother
November 14, 2010 at 7:50 AM
As salaamu alaykum:
Although obviously not always having this opinion or outlook, Anwar Awlaki indeed HAS, at least since a few years ago or so, held the opinion that various western non-combatants CAN intentionally be targeted and killed, including women and children (he is now saying all Americans, not that this is anything new since his “change”) and that all of the possessions in various non-Muslim lands can be taken by Muslims as a form of ghaneema (booty). He has endorsed the opinion as legitimate held by Yusuf Al-‘Uyayri (of course killed several years ago by the Saudi security forces), in which in one of his “fatwas” right after 9-11, said that millions of non-combatant non-Muslim Americans, including women, the elderly, and children (he stressed ANY kaafir non-combatant in America, period) can and should be intentionally killed by Muslims as a form of al-qisaas punishment. And in some of his “J” series in recent years, Awlaki has specifically said that he was using and translating as inspiration, some of the various essays written by Yusuf Al-‘Uyayri. And that he did agree with the various fatawa that Yusuf Al-Uyayri had come out with, including the one I alluded to.
Now, these beliefs that he holds (as do all AQ or “pro-AQ” shuyookh) are un-Islamic, and totally haraam, PERIOD, end of story. Islam is free of this. The Rasool (sallallahu alayhi wa salaam) never endorsed any of these kinds of disgusting beliefs.
However, if you criticize Awlaki in any way, saying that he is wrong, what he is calling to is baatil and haraam, etc., you WILL BE SEEN unfortunately by many Muslims, as a dirty, evil, filthy MUNNAFIQ (who are kuffar), as a supporter of the tawagheet, etc. And this is unfair and wrong! Just because you don’t support what Awlaki (and likeminded “shuyookh”) is calling to; haraam, un-Islamic actions such as what the “underwear” bomber tried to do, trying to blow-up non-combatants, including women and children, DOES NOT mean that you support the kuffar or the Crusaders, their agenda, or what they are doing to Muslims.
However, many brothers (and sisters) are too jaahil to see this…
Allahu musta’an
ashley
November 14, 2010 at 8:50 AM
why did you not publish my response? it took me a long time.
you guys repress what other muslim says..
another bunch of sell outs
Ify Okoye
November 14, 2010 at 9:53 AM
No one has a free slate to post whatever they want on MM. If you can’t handle that, rather than abusing us here, please feel free to start your own blog, especially as you have the time to write out long comments. Your comment was caught up in our automatic moderation filters due to the number of links it contained, which is the characteristic of many spam comments.
ABDUL
November 17, 2010 at 5:55 PM
this is a clear fitnah may allah protect us from this kind of things
The muslims are firing shots at each other…
Dont fall in the traps of such people brothers and sisters, and dont believe the media…
We are muslims and we should follow what rasulallah (saws) did and what the sahabas did.
take a look at the history and see how rasulallah(saws Fought the enemys of Allah…
May Allah protect Anwar al awlaki and may the Ummah be victorious over the enemy’s of Allah that killed and are stil killing, are brothers and sisters in large numbers over the whole world…
yesss
Umer
December 8, 2010 at 4:12 AM
Ameen.
shirzay
July 21, 2011 at 4:59 AM
No one with a bit of humanity in their heart will accept/agree the killing of innocent sivilians in muslim countries, on the same token how can you Islamically justify the killing of innocent civilians of other nations and fates; this is unislamic, it goes against the teaching of the Prophet SAW – If one agrees that Allah SWT and His messenger teach us to be fair, just, compassionate, and not to transgress our limits then one sees that none of the actions of this Khawarij mentality represent the teaching of Islam.
In regards to Anwar Al-Alaki, I personally used to be his fan and listen to his lectures years ago and it was really catching and informative, it saddens me to see a man of knowledge taking this route, his eloquence and knowledge could be used for the good of humanity.
May Allah SWT guide him to the right path.
Confused_Muslim
November 18, 2010 at 5:07 PM
I see the name caught your attention reader, I knew it. :)
Anyway, Assalamu alaikum brothers and sisters,
question to Sheikh anwar’s proponents or his new position:
How do u explain his change of opinion 180 degrees? Can u actually trust him after this change? Was he on batil and then went back to Haqq?
MuslimBrother
November 19, 2010 at 10:44 AM
Wa alaykum as salaam:
Good question Confused_Muslim. If you go by what Mr. Awlaki is saying today, it’s as if they would think that the old Awlaki was a “modernist,” a “sell-out,” or “pro-kaafir†Muslim (other expressions besides the ones I mentioned in my older post that these Salafi “Js” use all the time on the forums and blogs when you criticize their AQ so-called “shuyookh,†the various so-called “blessed” operations conducted by AQ/AQ affiliates, or point out that it is 100% un-Islamic, haraam, and totally against the Deen of Allah (not to mention WAY too counterproductive!) to intentionally target non-combatants)
Another question for them is why don’t they think that OBL (and his surgeon associate) is an evil, deviant, traitor, as he treacherously and despicably lied to, and went behind the back of al-Ameer ul-Mu’mineen (ha) (as he had given bay’ah to him) AGAIN, and this devious treachery of course helped to destroy the only Islamic State in the World, bringing in the Crusaders (and the Hypocrites). As can be seen in various videos and written accounts where OBL is bragging (!!!) about the fact that the Ameer ul-Mu’mineen (ha) didn’t know that he (OBL) was planning these attacks (totally haraam, un-Islamic attacks at that), although the Ameer ul-Mu’mineen (ha), and other Islamic Emirate leadership had warned OBL (and AQ) several times (!!!) NOT to do so, or to give the Crusaders any excuses to invade…
FollowerOfISLAM
November 21, 2010 at 8:01 PM
All I have to say is may Allah reward and protect shaykh Anwar from all evil and makr of the kuffar and munafiqeen. wallahi he is the best shaykh who preached in the west in my eyes along with my beloved and respected shaykh Ali al Tamimi(fuka Allahu asrahu min sujooni-tawagheet). This so called Fadel(may Allah never show him His fadhl until he returns to the sunnah!!) is the worst person on earth to say even one statement on the shaykh. talk about jawajees and taghut agents these days!!
I ask the brothers and sisters who are accusing the shaykh of ALLOWING killing of muslims to firstly, fear Allah and next bring forth your proof in kuntum mina saadiqeen! Honestly, please double check who your walaa and baraa is for. Even if the shaykh is wrong in some aspects that gives us no reason to “refute” him if thats what this “fadhel” is trying to do. He makes mistakes well so do you and me! no one is ma’soom(angel,perfect) here. But be the better muslim and forgive and overlook your fellow muslims mistakes. Perhaps he used the wrong ijtihaad, so make duaa that Allah forgives him and aids him! Why, do we have to all of a sudden “refute” ??? wallahi what shaykh Anwar has given and done for the deen till now, not half of us have done! So silence is the best choice unless you are going to speak the truth.wallahi even if a muslim killed 1000 kafir “civilians” that gives you no right and permission according to Allah’s book and His Messenger to turn him in!!
hafithakaAllah yaa shaykhana ayna ma kunt, wa ja’alakaAllahu mina ash-shuhada.
Confused_Muslim
November 22, 2010 at 12:13 PM
Dear brothrer,
Are u even listening to yourself?
“This so called Fadel(may Allah never show him His fadhl until he returns to the sunnah!!) is the worst person on earth to say even one statement on the shaykh. talk about jawajees and taghut agents these days!!”
and then u say
“But be the better muslim and forgive and overlook your fellow muslims mistakes.”
For your information Fadel Sulaiman has also done good to the muslim ummah and is your muslim brother. How dare u make such a 7aqid duaa against him?
And how exactly did u know that he is not following the sunnah?
And then u say :
“even if a muslim killed 1000 kafir “civilians†that gives you no right and permission according to Allah’s book and His Messenger to turn him in!!”
What is your daleel on this?
What if those 1000 civilians contain one muslim, would u still agree that the sahykh should not be refuted?
Mansoor Ansari
November 22, 2010 at 2:51 PM
All this talk & slogans that we are against ‘Anwar AlAwlaki’ because he is allowing targeting of civilians. Even when he just said that one can attack the armed forces of countries that are attacking & occupying Muslim lands, American muslims turned against him. They were out with slogans – ‘Islam is peace & jihad is an inner struggle’. It was never abt civilians but abt Muslims retaliating against American occupation.
Those who are rallying against Awlaki for condoning attack against American civilians, were they ok with his ruling on attacks on American armed forces? MM started bashing him, the minute he stated America should be fought against, even when it was not abt civilians.
Yamin
December 8, 2010 at 12:49 AM
Governments are not failing. That proposition is totally preposterous.
If you require your god’s word to tell you that murdering innocent people is totally unacceptable then that god and his book is not worth the paper it’s written.
If this guy he’s talking about blames his change of mind on the government then all I can say is all criminals say that, it’s never their fault. Making apologist remarks such as these is just another form of terrorism.
Get real, all you need is common-sense and a bit of decency to weed out these criminal murderers. If you don’t condemn them without equivocation then you are just as bad.
Fulan
June 2, 2012 at 1:40 PM
The speaker asked how moderate people become extremists after being in jail.
It’s very simple: HYPNOSIS and or KABBALAH!
abba aminu
September 21, 2012 at 6:28 AM
ameen my brother well said
Bu Abdul Rahman
November 1, 2012 at 5:57 AM
What is the author trying to imply by tagging this as “extremism”? & by posting this video in the first place?
I knew something was fishy about this website, thanks for proving it.
kamg6
December 7, 2012 at 12:31 PM
I think he’s implying that awlaki’s views were extreme