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The RAND Report & My RANDom Thoughts…
Drum-roll please… the new RAND Report is out… they love publicity, and we the Muslims have to unfortunately keep giving… we cannot put blinders on and ignore brother RAND. So, I have a few RANDom thoughts…
- I didn’t read all of it, in fact I didn’t read most of it. I skimmed through it. Part of the reason I did so was that the summaries out there were quite good. And most of why I did so was that it is really the same report as RAND-1.
- It seemed to be like a bad attempt on putting together a sequel. Like Jungle Book 2, the sequel to, you guessed it, Jungle Book 1 (its a cartoon movie folks, completely halal :) ). Basically, RAND thought they had come up with something exceptionally smart the first time with their four types of Muslim theory, so why not drag that out a bit, add some Cold War dynamics, touch it up with some long-shot similarities and serve with some brashness on top.
- So, here’s the gist for you, the time-constrained folks, your very own 2-minute summary:
a) There are essentially four types of Muslims (phew… we thought we had 73): fundamentalists = bad, traditionalists = ok, modernists = better, secularists = best.
b) So, what do you do with these four groups… you see it is like the Terror-Alert traffic light system that DHS has put in… you can see on the top of this post.
Interestingly, I had a several more paragraphs that completely disappeared in thin air after I finished posting… seems like RANDom bugs have hit this endeavor. Well, I’ll consider adding more later as time permits, and will have a UPDATE sign in the title. Until then, enjoy Umm Zaid’s thoughts here, and Jinnzaman’s intellectual response, snippets of which I have pasted below:
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RAND, “Reform,” and Revolution
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“Remember how the Unbelievers plotted against thee, to keep thee in bonds, or slay thee, or get thee out (of thy home). They plot and plan, and Allah too plans; but the best of planners is Allah.” (
al-Anfal- 30) Surat
Introduction
The RAND corporation, author of the infamous “Civil Democratic Islam” paper that essentially laid forth a “divide and conquer” strategy to subdue the Muslim world from resisting American hegemony, recently released a follow up report entitled “Building Moderate Muslim Networks” to effectuate the policy objectives that were previously discussed in their other papers. The report comes in the wake of a recent summit by “secular” Muslims in St. Petersburg, Florida where they issued a proclamation declaring support for secularism, “human rights”, along with condemnation of orthodoxy, the Shari’ah with particular focus on the hadd punishments against apostasy, zina, Islamic governance, not to mention practices that have no place in Islam such as female circumcision, honor killing, forced veiling, and forced marriage. Unsurprisingly, the doctrine such “secular” Muslims espouse and the method they utilize to propagate their ideas coincides exactly with the doctrine and methods espoused in the “Building Moderate Muslim Networks” paper. Some may describe the secular Muslim summit and the publication of the
Summary
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Criticisms
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ูAbu Bakr
March 31, 2007 at 12:56 AM
Just a random tidbit concerning the RAND corporation. This donkey *ahem*… i mean, lady:
http://www.bookbrowse.com/biographies/index.cfm?author_number=585
is the wife of zalmay khalilzad (whom we all know). She is the author of various papers and books, including one called The Hadith Wars. She is also a consultant to the rand corporation.
In her paper, The Hadith Wars, she quoted the following:
Mabrook Ismaeel (2003) remarks,
((Let us look at the parameters of Al Bukhariโs claim. If we allow one single hour to process each hadith he would have had to work non-stop for about seventy years. Each hadith would have had to be traced back to the Prophet through a long transmission chain each link of which had to be closely examined, with each chain consisting of six or seven individuals of successive generations, all but one of whom were dead. Yet he is said to have completed this work in sixteen years. Was it physically possible for Al-Bukhari to have examined that many hadith? The answer is no.))
Btw, for those who missed it, refuting that piece of utter rubbish was how i got my intro to the blogging world (http://islamicsciences.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/a-false-non-muslim-accusation-against-imam-al-bukhari/)
jinnzaman
March 31, 2007 at 1:40 AM
haha, awesome job bro. i loved the graphic. i should really do a mox news article on this, but I’m too lazy.
Manas Shaikh
March 31, 2007 at 6:31 AM
Aziz made the points quite clear.
http://cityofbrass.blogspot.com/2007/03/st-petersburg-declaration-text-and.html
The only ‘Muslims’ the Far Right in US likes are the once-Muslims. Other Muslims are crappy Muslims!
Ibrahim
March 31, 2007 at 12:03 PM
Great post. Jazak Allah khair. The graphic was funny…
Mujahideen Ryder
March 31, 2007 at 11:37 PM
LOL that was a great graphic bro! mashaAllah
PS – i dont like this new web theme :(
Abdu
April 1, 2007 at 1:47 PM
salaam,
“PS – i dont like this new web theme”
I agree.
Lilia
April 1, 2007 at 4:04 PM
LOL Mujahideen. I agree with Mujahideen and Abdu :)
Amad
April 1, 2007 at 6:42 PM
Ok… what about now? The header image still needs to be fixed, but besides that.
mirajmom
April 1, 2007 at 6:49 PM
Salam,
I read every word. And I went to the Berkley paper. I read every word. It is good to have intellectual others to speak to. My concern is the lack of knowledge the average Muslim has. We need to let the word out to the Average Amhad…why because the insidious message will be picked up by the media and our children will suffer. We need an Averag Amhad newsopaper.
tahsinthree
April 3, 2007 at 11:20 AM
Excellent graphics, I want to print it out as a poster !
Musa Maguire
April 3, 2007 at 5:30 PM
I want to address an issue that always comes up around these Rand reports. RAND makes favorable mention of Sufis as a counterweight to fundamentalism. It is a logical error to say that Sufis are therefore serving US policy. This is a common charge leveld against some of our famous Sufi brothers, mostly due to their quietist (and I believe correct) issue on many contemporary political crises.
Those debates aside, it is worth remembering that the United States underwrote the jihad in Afghanistan during the 1980s, and was happy to characterize Salafi groups and others as ‘freedom fighters” during that era. Polemical Sufis are always eager to point this out. The same logical error applies.
We should understand these reports for what they are, and not use them as ammunition in our sectarian rivalries.
abdulHaq
April 5, 2007 at 10:51 AM
Latest RAND Study on Islam Calls for Further Extremism!
http://www.salafimanhaj.com/pdf/SalafiManhaj_RAND.pdf
potential ally
April 19, 2007 at 11:00 AM
” … a recent summit by โsecularโ Muslims in St. Petersburg, Florida where they issued a proclamation declaring support for secularism, โhuman rightsโ, along with condemnation of orthodoxy, the Shariโah with particular focus on the hadd punishments against apostasy, zina, Islamic governance, not to mention practices that have no place in Islam such as female circumcision, honor killing, forced veiling, and forced marriage. Unsurprisingly, the doctrine such โsecularโ Muslims espouse and the method they utilize to propagate their ideas coincides exactly with the doctrine and methods espoused in the โBuilding Moderate Muslim Networksโ paper. ”
As a non-Muslim I find this sort of thinking very reassuring. After reading accounts in the popular press of Pakistanis punishing rape victims and Iran’s blood money and vigilante laws, and the testimony of Ayaan Hirsi Ali and other apostates, I have been forming the opinion that your religion favors draconian enforcement of ancient laws which deny the modern conception of individual rights, freedom of conscience, the equality of women, and so forth.
I was surprised at the list of practices that have no place in Islam, as they appear to be widespread and accepted, at least to the casual observer from a distance.
It appears that there is a range of opinion in the Muslim world, and that violent antiquarian extremists have done a better job of expressing their vision than enlightened moderates. Why is this, I wonder? Fear of reprisal? Self doubt? Marginal status within the mainstream community?
AnonyMouse
April 19, 2007 at 1:18 PM
Potential ally:
“I was surprised at the list of practices that have no place in Islam, as they appear to be widespread and accepted, at least to the casual observer from a distance.”
All those practices – forced marriages, FGM, etc. – are purely cultural and have nothing to do with Islam. Nor are they as widespread as they may seem; it is simply that the media sensationalizes it to the point that the average layperson, with little to no knowledge of the society and cultures in question, ends up thinking that these are common everyday occurrences
“Why is this, I wonder?”
It is my firm belief that those who cling to cultural practices that have nothing to do with Islam – and this is from an Islamic POV, not from a non-Muslim one which judges a great deal of authentic Islamic Law to be ‘draconian’ and ‘antiquarian’ – do so due to a lack of knowledge about Islam.
Such incorrect practices are kept alive only because of ignorance and lack of implementation of true Islamic practices. God willing, this will change, and things improve for the better.
As for labelling Islamic Law as backwards, draconian, and so on, I urge you to please learn more about the wisdoms behind those laws before making such sweeping and incorrect judgements. One cannot base their opinions on an entire system – not simply of law, but a way of life – by the actions of a people; for a system may be as close to perfect as possible in theory, yet put into practice undoubtedly things will go wrong. One need look no further than our very own countries here in the West to see that the legal system, the so-called justice system which lets rapists, murderers, and other psycho- and sociopaths loose, is certainly not perfect.
Once more, I urge you to please do a great deal more research into the subject of Islam to see that there’s a lot more to it than chopping off people’s hands and stoning them to death.
May God grant us all guidance, knowledge, wisdom, and understanding.
-Mouse
Amad
April 19, 2007 at 3:46 PM
Potential Ally: If I were in your position, sitting in a Western country, esp. America with its corporate-sensationalist media, then I could understand how you would come up with your conclusions.
But you see, we need to above that. We need to be above just letting media and the internet tell us how it is. Because if we don’t, then what is the difference between us and an average person in the Muslim world whose entire concept of America is limited to sex, drugs, and killings… because that is what usually also makes news in those countries. Of course, we all know that even though America has some of those elements, it is nevertheless a country that has much more good than evil in it, esp. the compassion of the average American.
So, next time you think about Muslim lands and its inhabitants, think ABOVE the fray, learn more about the religion and then make your judgments. Do you think it is just a mere coincidence that Islam is growing so fast, even in Western countries? That despite all the negative rhetoric and vitriolic portrayal of Islam, it CONTINUES to attract converts everyday? Well, let me be the first, but not the last probably, to tell you that it is NOT a co-incidence. And perhaps you should look into why. I hope you do. And as always, MuslimMatters can help you with any questions.
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