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Virtues of Allamah Ibn Jibreen: Shaykh Waleed Basyouni
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User
July 20, 2009 at 10:56 AM
Assalaamu Alykum,
A truly amazing Shaikh! Jazakallah khair
Abuhafsa
July 20, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Is there an audio link to this? I don’t see one.
Amad
July 20, 2009 at 11:24 AM
there is a small audio thingie right above the photo…
Abuhafsa
July 20, 2009 at 11:37 AM
JazakAllah khair. I see it now, Couldn’t see the audio player before.
Omar Suleiman
July 20, 2009 at 1:18 PM
subhanAllah,
It is truly a tragedy within a tragedy that the ummah would mourn Michael Jackson but not Sheikh Ibn Jibreen (RA)
followerofSalaf
July 20, 2009 at 9:21 PM
The reason my dear brother is what I have mentioned before in my previous post. The shuyookh live in their own world – a world of specialist faqih’s and have little or no interaction with the common folk in the social & political spheres of life. So unless you are in the ‘inner circle’ of jurisprudential experts, which most people are not, you will not know most of them. If people knew about the activities of these scholars they would mourn them too – especially if those activities touched them in their lives.
Unfortunately, the field of islamic juriprudence is limited to a very narrow circle of people who are interested in that field. So that is why I asked the question: What have these scholars done that touched the lives of ‘ordinary’ people such that they would become known amongst them? I have not yet seen a single response to my question, not even a single example of activities or deeds *outside* the realm of jurisprudence, what is commonly and inaccurately categorized these days with the broad brush of ‘knowledge’ i.e. other than reading, memorizing, and teaching fiqh?
Amad
July 21, 2009 at 2:48 AM
read the post by Sh Yaser Birjas… he wasn’t in Srebrenica to teach fiqh alone.
Hassan
July 21, 2009 at 5:04 AM
Did you listen to this khutbah?
cotton eye joe
July 23, 2009 at 10:38 AM
A sad thing is: as we lose the scholars, we lose a bit of the religion
Abu Yazid
August 29, 2009 at 11:40 AM
As Salamu alaykum
I think one of the reasons the avg. Muslim does not morn the death of the ulamah is because some duat/callers to Islam/students do not connect the people to the source of ilm…the ulamah. You have some callers who are educating the people about who the ulamah of ‘Ahlus Sunnah are today and from the past, and organizing tele-links with the ulamah and translating their talks and books into English( like the brothers at albaseerah ), but then you have other who set themselves up as being the point men and being the “shaykhs” whom people should turn to. When you have callers making agreements with the sufi’s and when it is said did you ask the ulamah before you did this?… say we know the affair we don’t need to return back to the ulama overseas in this matter. So then don’t be shocked that the common Muslims who take from these callers have no connection to the ulamah.
Abu Yazid
August 29, 2009 at 12:01 PM
How can the people morn the death of the Ulamah when they are being confused as to who the ulamah are? You have a disease today of students at best mere talkers and lectures at worst putting themselves forward to teach and give fatwa and the people not knowing any better think these people are shaykhs and alims ..subhanallah. How many Islamic “talkers” have no knowledge at all, yet get invited to Mosques around the world and have popular books nowadays?
How many people know all about those who may have sat with the Ulamah and yet not know anything about the Ulamah who these people sat with? This is because we our not like the Salaf who watched whom they took knowledge from they didn’t rush to listen to every Abdullah with a beard and kufi and ask for fatwa.
Take it upon yourself to find out who the ulamah are, Next time some caller to Islam comes to you town ask them who did they learn from? Better yet before you waste your time and maybe your money going to the conference find out from the organizers who did the speakers take ilm from and if they have permission from them to teach in the first place!
Jamil Bin Abdus
July 21, 2009 at 5:21 AM
What have these scholars done that touched the lives of โordinaryโ people such that they would become known amongst them?
my response is as follows.
From amongst the ordinary Muslim people. If an individual, male or female, started to reflect and realised the true purpose of existance and aspires to have more than just living in this materialistic life and just being a Muslim by name or a cultural, blind following Muslim, or an uneducated non-practising Muslim and aspires and yearns for the afterlife, for Allaah’s Mercy and entering into Paradise, to follow the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad salallaahu alaihi wa sallam as understood by his Companions and the Scholars of Sunnah from the past and the present, then this will lead that person automatically to seek knowledge of the religion. From its correct sources and the correct scholars and students of islamic ilm.
This will no doubt, change that persons way of life, way of thinking, mentality etc. Even if that person does not study directly from these great Scholars. But may have read, studied from their books, tapes/CD’S, tele-links etc. And may have studied from their students who come over to teach in the West or from some students reside in the West.
The Scholars of Islam, the Sunnah and Salafiyah are the true inheritors of the Prophets. They learn, act and teach. They are the people Allah has raised ranks and they are well known amongst all common Muslims who seek ilm as well as Students of Islamic Knwoledge and other Scholars, due to their fear they have of Allaah and their knowledge and action, Allaah has made them known. Look at the likes of the great Imaams of the past like; Al-Awzae, Sufyan At-Tawri, Abu Haneefa, Shafie, Ahmad, Malik, Bukhari, Muslim, Thirmidhi, Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn Abdul Wahhab. And from amongst the Imaams of our time; Ibn Baz, Al-Albani, Ibn Uthaymeen, Saalih al-Fawzan, Abdul Muhsin al-Abbaad, Ali Hasan al-Halabi and other than them.
Through them, Allaah has preserved the religion of Islam and in particular the Sunnah and the way of our Salaf as-saalih. Their work, books, tapes, ilm are widespread and has changed the lives of millions of Muslims, who were in confusion, Bid’ah and Hizbiyah. They have made the path clear from the extremism of neglegance and from the extremism of overboard. And terrorism, suicide bombings etc.
Having said that, we must understand that they are not perfect and may make mistakes. But we are not to blind follow any one particular scholar, but follow them or their view on a particular issue based upon evidence.
Jamil Bin Abdus
July 21, 2009 at 5:27 AM
PS; some may accuse the Scholars of being ignorant of the current situation of the world, have no interaction of the western world, are government funded, scholars of menstruation etc. This is all backbiting and slandering them and is a great crime. Rather they are well aware of what is going on around the world and they talk with ilm and wisdom. And say things when need to eb said, looking at the benfits and harm upon the Ummah.
Abu Bakr
July 22, 2009 at 9:35 PM
The Shaykh was incorrect in his criticism of Hezbollah. We should always support our Muslim brothers against the Israeli Zionists. His fatwa against Hezbollah was a betrayal of the Muslim Ummah. Completely unacceptable. May Allah (s.w.t.) forgive Ibn Jibreen for his support of the Israeli Zionists.
Abu Bakr
Hassan
July 23, 2009 at 12:01 AM
Shias are muslims? Although we should side with opressed one regardless..
Abu Yazid
August 29, 2009 at 10:51 AM
And this is why we need Ulamah
Abu Yazid
August 29, 2009 at 11:08 AM
The Sahaba radi allahu anhum would turn in their graves if they knew that some of the muslim youth where loving the people of shia deserter from Ahlus Sunnah and hating the scholars, this must be a sign of the day of standing.
Anas Hlayhel
July 23, 2009 at 1:16 AM
this is because of your ignorance of who Hizbollah is! Only Sunnies in Lebanon understand who that cult is. This is why the vast majority of Sunni Lebanese voted against Hizbollah in the last parliamentary election (June 7th 2009) and won the majority of representatives. I think ibn Jibreen (RA) understood politics and current affairs after all, much better than those who claim to undertand politics and current affairs!
Abu Bakr
July 23, 2009 at 8:07 AM
The Shias believe in Allah (s.w.t.), believe in the Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h.) as the last messenger, pray 5 times a day, fast during Ramadan, etc….
The Zionist Israelis kill Mulims, do not believe in Allah (s.w.t.), do not believe in the Prophet, prevent Muslims from praying 5 times a day, etc….
I see the Shaykh’s logic now! It was the same logic that the Munafiqoon (hypocrites) of Medina used with the Prophet. Support the enemy (Zionist Israelis) but use “Islamic” terminology to justify your unjustifiable and unjust position.
Hassan
July 23, 2009 at 8:16 AM
http://muslimmatters.org/2009/07/13/allamah-dr-abdullah-bin-abdurrahman-bin-jibreen-rh-passes-away/#comment-46970
Are you same Abu Bakr as the one who was commenting on that thread?
Shumayse
October 25, 2010 at 10:30 PM
The Shi’a curse Abu Bakr, ‘Umar, ‘Uthman and Umm ul-Mu’mineen ‘Aisha, (May Allaah be please with them all). There is no unity with the one that curses the four righteous khilafah, regardless of whether they pray 5 times a day or not. They call upon ‘Ali, go to the graves of Khomeini, pray upon that stupid turbah rock from Karbala, they slander the companions and the wives of the Prophet (S), they worship their 12 Imams, they think Karbala is more holy than Makkah. Subhan’Allaah, and you say we have to support the Hezbollah, they are not Hezbollah, they are Hezb ul-Shaytaan.
Abu Bakr
July 23, 2009 at 9:08 AM
Yes, I am that same Abu Bakr. But what difference does it make? My point is that Shaykh Ibn Jibreen, a good scholar of Islam, issued bad fatwas in his lifetime. The scholars make mistakes, and this was the Shaykh’s biggest fatwa-related mistake in my humble opinion.
Re: the Shia. There are bad ones who curse the companions and there are good ones like Hezbollah who fight the oppressors. Read Hezbollah’s literature and listen to their leaders’ speeches. You will see that THEY HAVE NEVER CURSED the companions. Hezbollah has worked side by side with all Muslims in Lebanon. There are certain foreign-backed Sunnis and Christians that Hezbollah opposes. Sunnis in general however work side by side with them. I have been to Lebanon, I am a Lebanese Sunni, and I can attest to this. Shaykh Ibn Jibreen has not been to Lebanon recently, and issued his fatwa from the isolated confines of Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. If he had gone to Lebanon, he would have seen how much the average Lebanese person loves Hezbollah.
Hassan
July 23, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Well I have seen their main leader cursing sahabah, I would get you link soon.
You are? Interesting….. I was thinking you are the one who wrote this article:
http://muslimmatters.org/2007/04/30/the-status-of-the-companions-in-light-of-the-quran/
If not, then alhamdulillah
Amad
July 23, 2009 at 9:24 AM
Different Abu Bakrs COMPLETELY
Perhaps Abu Bakr al-lebnanee, you can add something next to your name to distinguish yourself from the “established” abu bakr?
that will help avoid confusion.
Abu Yazid
August 29, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Nasrallah(not) speaking about the the Sahaba radi allahu anhum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oetLTl5u2zQ
Anas Hlayhel
July 23, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Akhi Abu Bakr,
First sorry if i came rude in my first thread …
I was in Lebanon last month and I voted in the Lebanese elections! Your info about majority Sunnis backing Hizbollah is a bit outdated! Yes this was the case say in 2000 when Lebanon was liberated from Israeli occupation. But since the assasination of Hariri, things changed a lot. Things changed even more after May 7th 2008, when Hizbollah and Amal (both Shia) invaded West Beirut (majority Sunni). When i was in Lebanon few weeks ago, I talked to relatives, neighbors, friends, and teachers and things are not the same. Even the most secular among the Sunnis came to warn me from the Persian threat!! Did this come out of nothing??????? It was Hizbollah that turned those secular Sunnies that sectarian! On the political level, only very few remain allied with the Hizbollah (Fathi Yakan who died right the elections, Omar Karami, etc.) But the vast majority are with Hariri. Even the Ikhwan who historically have backed up Hizbollah have turned against them and now are mostly alligned with Hariri (though they try to remain independent). As for popular support, I think the last elections speak for themselves! When it comes to Christians, you can say they’re divided about in half. There is one half led by General Aun who support Hizbollah and another half led by Jmail and Ja3ja3 who support Hariri.
Hizbollah and before him the Syrian presence, did everything to weaken the Sunni presence. Up till recently, they supported the Alawis (very small minority) in Tripoli against Sunnis. Back in 1986, the Syrian army, who gave much leeways for Hizbollah to grow, almost distroyed Tripoli completely and killed so many young Sunnis. I don’t know how many times we have to fall into pit whole before we learn we have to avoid it.
As far as the Aqeeda of Hizbollah, they have stated clearly that they believe in Wilayat al-Faqih. So they are totally loyal and behind the Iranian Ayatollah, and we all know what version of Shiism they follow!
Abu Bakr (lebanese)
July 23, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Anas,
I agree with you that Hizbollah recently has overplayed their hand and has alienated some of the Lebanese population. Moreover, I think there idea of Wilayat al Faqih is pretty much rejected by many of the scholars of Shi’ism, except for a few government-funded “Ayatollahs” in Iran, Lebanon, etc…
We must not forget however that beyond politics, Hizbollah provides essential services (i.e. Health clinics, orphanages, etc…) in Lebanon and although their politics are sometimes misguided, they are the only group of Muslims to date that have actually been able to defeat the Israeli Zionists. Not a single “Muslim” army (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Egypt, Pakistan) has been able to defeat the Israeli Zionists like Hizbollah has been able to do. At the very least we should commend their bravery against the non-Muslim oppressors. This is something which Shaykh ibn Jibreen failed to do.
Abu Ninja
July 23, 2009 at 8:21 PM
May Allah fill the grave of Shaikh Ibn Jibreen with mercy and light.
As with regards to the shia who curse and make takfeer of the Companions of our beloved Prophet, then as Shaikh Uthaymeen [raheemaullah] mentioned, they are worse than the Jews and Christians.
Abu Unais
July 26, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Wallahee, I had heard of this Shaykh (rahimahullah) only because of his defence of Sayyid Qutb (rahimahullah), I didn’t know much about him but that open letter he had written was so beautifuly written; the ettiqutte, the scholarship just leapt of the pages. After listening the Khutbah by Ustadh Waleed Basyouni I knew for sure that one of the greatest Ulamaah had passed away, not only great in his knowledge but also his actions, I was sad that I had never met him as he clearly understood the situation of the Muslims and he was very humble.
His fatawa were correct regarding the Shia and hezbullah (more like hezbuz-shaytaan) no one should be fooled by their lies and deception, the Shia are known historically for their treachary, their Aqeedah is disgusting ( you wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole) , the Shaykh (rahimahullah) understood this.
May Allah Grant His Mercy upon him and expand his grave for him and fill it with light and may Allah grant him the highest levels of Jannah.
‘And the eye of pleasure sees every fault insignificant,
But the eye of hatred always finds fault. ‘ Allamah Dr. Shaykh Abdullah Ibn Abdur-Rahmaan Ibn Jibreen (rahimahullah)
Saarim
August 5, 2009 at 7:31 PM
Abu Bakr, your insinuation that Shaykh Ibn Jibreen was a Zionist is ridiculous as the shaykh was a well-known supporter of jihad and Muslim causes, especialy in Palestine. The fatwa against Hezbollah was issued before Israel’s war on Lebanon and Ibn Jibreen later retracted the fatwa when the Zionists started using it. As for Hezbollah, while they have condemned the occupation in Iraq mildly, they haven’t condemned the colloboration of many Iraqi Shi’ites with the Americans or the colloboration of Afghani Shi’ites with the Americans. Are you going to call out Hezbollah on this double-standard? I think Hezbollah should be commended for their resistance, but we shouldnt fall into the trap in over-praising it. As a Lebanese Sunni, you should also know that Hezbollah has monopolised the resistance and that Sunnis, especially Palestinians, are forbidden to confront Israel. When members of Hezbollah and Amal(another Shi’ite militia) entered Sunni neighbourhoods in Beirut, some of them were seen cursing the Sahabah(RA).