Sunday Open Thread | The final is here…

July 11, 2010 by Nadim Announcements, BlogNews
22 comments Tags: boradcast · CAIR · live · no-fly list · World Cup

World Cup Final

So who's going to be the best football team of the world for the next 4 years? (yes, football…. not soccer)

Except if you are living in different world, today is the final of the World Cup: Spain vs Netherlands. For some reason, everybody looks to favor the Spanish (including me). Who's your favorite? And mostÂ importantly, where are you going to watch the game? I have heard this match will beÂ broadcastedÂ in 3D in selectÂ theaters. Wow!

Live Broadcast next Saturday (inshaAllah)

Don't miss for the 1st time ever on MM, aÂ liveÂ broadcast of a lecture from Santa Clara, CA on Saturday, July 17th at 7 PM (PST) with Nouman Ali Khan, Siraaj Wahajj and Dalia Mogahed. Mark your calendar and stay tuned for more information.

No-Fly list Alert from CAIR

If you happened to be Muslim and planning to come to America, it might be better for you to know how to swim

CAIR issued an advisory to American Muslims — whether citizens, permanent residents or visa holders — warning of the risk of “forced exile” when traveling overseas or attempting to return to the United States. Muslim travelers are urged to know their legal rights if they are placed on the so-called “no-fly list.”

SEE: Cases of American Muslims Barred from U.S.
http://tinyurl.com/3y5uu8f

American Man in Limbo on No-Fly List (NY Times)
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/16/world/middleeast/16yemen.html

U.S. Muslims Facing Problems in Return from Abroad (Wash. Post)
http://tinyurl.com/ye8ymru

FBI agents have reportedly told a number of individuals that they face being stranded outside the United States longer, or forever, unless they give up their rights to legal representation or to refuse interrogations and polygraph tests. But even those who submitted to interrogations without an attorney or to the “lie detector” tests remain stranded.

Full Advisory:Â U.S. Muslim Travelers Warned of 'Forced Exile'

Tags: boradcast · CAIR · live · no-fly list · World Cup

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UmA

Oh I thought the Final might be referring to something a bit more final
http://muslimmatters.org/about/mm-associates/#AM Abu Noor Al-Irlandee

Today also marks the 15th anniversary of the Srebrenica Massacre, where nearly 8,000 Bosnian Muslims were slaughtered in the worst act of genocide in Europe since World War 2.

You can watch a documentary here “A Cry From the Grave” or Srbrenica: Autopsy of a Massacre.

http://muslimmatters.org/author/ify-okoye/ Ify Okoye

I second the film “A Cry from the Grave,” it’s excellent.

http://muslimmatters.org/author/amatullah Amatullah

yes I agree, I watched it last year. subhanAllah it was heavy.

Shuaib Mansoori

Assalamu Alaikum Akhi,

BarkAllahu Feek for sharing…May Allah grant justice to the oppressed and perfect the Sabr of the families of the victims.

muslimah

i think i’ll favor spain since everyone else is doing the same is lol
Rafa

I’m not one to jump in the bandwagon. Netherlands! :)

muslimah

yay spain won :) netherlands played well, afterall they were given extra time during which spain scored.

muslimah

lol im supporting spain cos i dont know much abt netherlands. and spanish accented english is cool lol
abu Abdullah

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/why-am-i-not-surprised/

Jewish student caught painting Swastikas on her own door then claiming Anti-Semitic Attack

PS 70,00,00,000 X 2 man hours lost during world cup football final?
http://circleofikhlas.wordpress.com usman

I am glad Spain won, they are the ancestors of our brothers and sisters. So its like a Muslim country, but not now.

abu ubaidah

assalamualaikum,

what are you talking about?

by 1609, the Spanish had manged to force out every last muslim from Spain. They used every brutal method of torture and inquisition under the sun to force them to commit kufr and become Catholics. The only descendants of the Al-Muwwahideen and Al-Muraabiteen movements that conquered Spain, are in North Africa, where they escaped from the evil Spainsh monarchy.

Spain is not better that the Netherlands. The former occupies muslim lands and debated banning the niqaab in regions (where not one muslim lives!!) and the latter voted for rabid anti-muslim politicians and has a penchant for producing cartoonists that mock Muhammad(Saws)

Two countries of kufr, full of racists and islamophobes.

muslimah

what are you talking about? What does it have to do with world cup and spain’s football team?

abu ubaidah

I am questioning why somebody would support a national football team and then say they like them because they are basically a muslim country. This is an absurd conclusion.

I would also mention that 90% of the iberian peninsula is occupied muslim land.

http://fikrpad.wordpress.com BrownS

Apparently some Muslim families did survive in Spain even after the Inquisition, probably for PR purposes (“look we didn’t force out ALL of them”). I’ve heard of people meeting native Spaniards (not converts) on Hajj. Also I’m pretty sure one of my acquaintances told me a while ago when he went to Portugal and Spain he met some Muslims from old families.

abu ubaidah

None were left for PR purposes. If one were to study the brutality of the Inquisition towards the Muslims in Iberia, you would know that PR meant nothing to them. Those that remained, were very few, and did so in secret- this is not even a proven fact, it is based upon speculation and some genetics research.

Furthermore, the expulsion of the moriscos had crippling effects on the Spanish economy; effects that were not unforseen. But the hatred of the muslims was more intense than their desire to have a stable economy and society.

Even those who sincerely converted were expelled. It makes the fact ring true; that when you sell your deen and become like the kuffar- they will still hate you and mock you.

anon

I find it sad that not one of the 8 comments so far mentioned the no-fly list issue and most of them are about world cup. It’s very sad how we’ve hit the level that we even ignore the injustice let alone do something about it.

SA

Well, why don’t you set an example by sharing some of your thoughts on it?
http://muslimmatters.org/author/amad/ Amad

we are all ears.
asawb

+1
muslimah

why dont you go ahead enlighten us?

abu Abdullah

how ironic? Now bangladesh bans maududi’s books….http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-10661454

Allahul musta’an.

World Cup Final

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No-Fly list Alert from CAIR

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