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	<title>Comments on: UPDATE(1) Gaza Freedom Flotilla Killings: FACT CHECK (Dispelling Myths as Israeli PR in Full Swing) &#124; FACTBOX</title>
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		<title>By: Bench Saw Â·</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2010/06/01/gaza-freedom-flotilla/#comment-80233</link>
		<dc:creator>Bench Saw Â·</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 20:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when i shoot my paintball gun, i always make sure that i shoot some of my playmates         _</description>
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		<title>By: Freedom Flotilla Raid &#171; The Truth is Told</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2010/06/01/gaza-freedom-flotilla/#comment-69452</link>
		<dc:creator>Freedom Flotilla Raid &#171; The Truth is Told</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s not a PR nightmare if nobody&#8217;s talking about it &#171; Silence is golden&#8230; Or is it?</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2010/06/01/gaza-freedom-flotilla/#comment-69407</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s not a PR nightmare if nobody&#8217;s talking about it &#171; Silence is golden&#8230; Or is it?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nauman</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2010/06/01/gaza-freedom-flotilla/#comment-69301</link>
		<dc:creator>Nauman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 06:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hank Seller, 

First you talk about Christians and Jews. Then, in the middle of the argument, you shift to men versus women. If I didn&#039;t know any better, I would think that you just want to find anything that you can use against Islam. 

By the way, I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve studied a lot on all three religions and if so, you&#039;d know that these questions are not new. They are ages old and there are answers from muslim regarding these questions. If you&#039;re not satisfied with the answers, the proper way would be to quote them and say why you find them lacking. Right now, your claims just seem uneducated. 

About the second claim about war with Jews: Do you understand the difference between news and order? Can you see which one you&#039;re referring to here?  

And about your last sentence: I haven&#039;t accused you of anything. I&#039;ve been as civil as I know how. And here you go implying that I am not being honest with you. Please read my comments again and see if I&#039;ve made any claim without logical argument. Keep an open mind and maybe you will see the right path. Wish you the best of luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hank Seller, </p>
<p>First you talk about Christians and Jews. Then, in the middle of the argument, you shift to men versus women. If I didn&#8217;t know any better, I would think that you just want to find anything that you can use against Islam. </p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve studied a lot on all three religions and if so, you&#8217;d know that these questions are not new. They are ages old and there are answers from muslim regarding these questions. If you&#8217;re not satisfied with the answers, the proper way would be to quote them and say why you find them lacking. Right now, your claims just seem uneducated. </p>
<p>About the second claim about war with Jews: Do you understand the difference between news and order? Can you see which one you&#8217;re referring to here?  </p>
<p>And about your last sentence: I haven&#8217;t accused you of anything. I&#8217;ve been as civil as I know how. And here you go implying that I am not being honest with you. Please read my comments again and see if I&#8217;ve made any claim without logical argument. Keep an open mind and maybe you will see the right path. Wish you the best of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Seller</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2010/06/01/gaza-freedom-flotilla/#comment-69155</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Seller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, how about those verses in Quran which asks a muslim to kill Jews?

And would you tell me why a muslim woman cant marry a Christian or a Jew? Only muslim man has that right. And if muslim man get married with a Christian or a Jew, and they get children, those children are muslims and allways belongs to father. Quite friendly, you think so?

Your Hadith says this:
&quot;The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.&quot;

I appreciate if you tell just truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, how about those verses in Quran which asks a muslim to kill Jews?</p>
<p>And would you tell me why a muslim woman cant marry a Christian or a Jew? Only muslim man has that right. And if muslim man get married with a Christian or a Jew, and they get children, those children are muslims and allways belongs to father. Quite friendly, you think so?</p>
<p>Your Hadith says this:<br />
&#8220;The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.&#8221;</p>
<p>I appreciate if you tell just truth.</p>
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		<title>By: abu Abdullah</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2010/06/01/gaza-freedom-flotilla/#comment-68906</link>
		<dc:creator>abu Abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the complete interview that took her journalism life out of her. Notice the difference in context, when you post of sound bite and this.
funny how this longer clip is now miraculously released. It does give a decidedly different tenor to the exchange than the truncated remark that was seized upon for the purposes of vilification of an American icon. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc4OeRu7cfs

Note: it has loud music tracks in the beginning and end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the complete interview that took her journalism life out of her. Notice the difference in context, when you post of sound bite and this.<br />
funny how this longer clip is now miraculously released. It does give a decidedly different tenor to the exchange than the truncated remark that was seized upon for the purposes of vilification of an American icon.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc4OeRu7cfs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc4OeRu7cfs</a></p>
<p>Note: it has loud music tracks in the beginning and end.</p>
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		<title>By: darthvaider</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2010/06/01/gaza-freedom-flotilla/#comment-68883</link>
		<dc:creator>darthvaider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.indcatholicnews.com/news.php?viewStory=16276&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;null&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Washington: Jewish Rabbis to lead prayers for Gaza aid flotilla victims&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.indcatholicnews.com/news.php?viewStory=16276" rel="nofollow">Washington: Jewish Rabbis to lead prayers for Gaza aid flotilla victims</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nauman</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2010/06/01/gaza-freedom-flotilla/#comment-68878</link>
		<dc:creator>Nauman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you are right Amad.

I just didnâ€™t think Iâ€™d be able to explain the difference between the semantics of the word â€˜friendshipâ€™ as Quran uses it and as the modern casual usage defines it. So, I just explained what I could.

Just as thereâ€™s a difference between â€˜loveâ€™ for Allah and his Prophet (sallaho-alaihe wasallam) and love for another human, thereâ€™s a difference between friendship for the sake of Allah and friendship in the casual sense of the word. Donâ€™t think I can explain it any better without writing an article. Iâ€™m not that good with words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you are right Amad.</p>
<p>I just didnâ€™t think Iâ€™d be able to explain the difference between the semantics of the word â€˜friendshipâ€™ as Quran uses it and as the modern casual usage defines it. So, I just explained what I could.</p>
<p>Just as thereâ€™s a difference between â€˜loveâ€™ for Allah and his Prophet (sallaho-alaihe wasallam) and love for another human, thereâ€™s a difference between friendship for the sake of Allah and friendship in the casual sense of the word. Donâ€™t think I can explain it any better without writing an article. Iâ€™m not that good with words.</p>
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		<title>By: Amad</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2010/06/01/gaza-freedom-flotilla/#comment-68876</link>
		<dc:creator>Amad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 06:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And to be honest it isn&#039;t even about befriending Jews &amp; Christians. I have many good friends among Jews and Christians. This was more referring to as awliyah or protectors. And even that may have some interpretations/explanations.

Think about it. As a convert, your mother, father, siblings may all be Christians or Jews. Or your wife may be a Christian or Jew. Could you really live without having them as your &quot;friends&quot;? Or loving them as humans? There is difference between the love for the sake of deen, and the human love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to be honest it isn&#8217;t even about befriending Jews &amp; Christians. I have many good friends among Jews and Christians. This was more referring to as awliyah or protectors. And even that may have some interpretations/explanations.</p>
<p>Think about it. As a convert, your mother, father, siblings may all be Christians or Jews. Or your wife may be a Christian or Jew. Could you really live without having them as your &#8220;friends&#8221;? Or loving them as humans? There is difference between the love for the sake of deen, and the human love.</p>
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		<title>By: Nauman</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2010/06/01/gaza-freedom-flotilla/#comment-68870</link>
		<dc:creator>Nauman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 06:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hanks Seller, 

I will keep it brief: All the verses quoted on the link you sent are irrelevant because they&#039;re not talking about hating jews and christians. They&#039;re talking about not befriending them. There&#039;s a difference. I don&#039;t call the admin of this page my friend. Doesn&#039;t mean I hate him. The person living next door to my house isn&#039;t a friend. Doesn&#039;t mean I hate him. I don&#039;t like the way my boss approaches business ethics and I really don&#039;t want to be his friend. Doesn&#039;t mean I hate him. I hate what he does. Again, hate the deed, not the doer. 

So, the arguments on the page are irrelevant and if you read with an open mind, you&#039;ll notice that they&#039;re grasping at straws. The third-last verse quoted is clear evidence of what I&#039;ve just said. Don&#039;t christians believe that those who do not believe in Jesus (peace be upon him) will not go to heaven? I may be wrong there but I guess that&#039;s the whole point of a religion. If a religion says that everyone is right, what&#039;s the point of following that particular religion. It says itself that you can follow anyone. Kind of a contradiction there, don&#039;t you think? 

Oh and @Amad, thanks for pointing out the obvious about referring to legitimate sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hanks Seller, </p>
<p>I will keep it brief: All the verses quoted on the link you sent are irrelevant because they&#8217;re not talking about hating jews and christians. They&#8217;re talking about not befriending them. There&#8217;s a difference. I don&#8217;t call the admin of this page my friend. Doesn&#8217;t mean I hate him. The person living next door to my house isn&#8217;t a friend. Doesn&#8217;t mean I hate him. I don&#8217;t like the way my boss approaches business ethics and I really don&#8217;t want to be his friend. Doesn&#8217;t mean I hate him. I hate what he does. Again, hate the deed, not the doer. </p>
<p>So, the arguments on the page are irrelevant and if you read with an open mind, you&#8217;ll notice that they&#8217;re grasping at straws. The third-last verse quoted is clear evidence of what I&#8217;ve just said. Don&#8217;t christians believe that those who do not believe in Jesus (peace be upon him) will not go to heaven? I may be wrong there but I guess that&#8217;s the whole point of a religion. If a religion says that everyone is right, what&#8217;s the point of following that particular religion. It says itself that you can follow anyone. Kind of a contradiction there, don&#8217;t you think? </p>
<p>Oh and @Amad, thanks for pointing out the obvious about referring to legitimate sources.</p>
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