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		<title>By: Not saying</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 06:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Majority of Muslims are innovative Barelvi liars? I don&#039;t think so.

Grave Worship
http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oGdV00vRBO210Ag_pXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1bmY2c284BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA3NrMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDA3OV8xNDc-/SIG=125ipa2kr/EXP=1309741460/**http%3a//www.ahya.org/tjonline/eng/05/03Graves.html

Innovation
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Majority of Muslims are innovative Barelvi liars? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>Grave Worship<br />
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<p>Innovation<br />
<a href="http://whyislam.yolasite.com/innovations.php" rel="nofollow">http://whyislam.yolasite.com/innovations.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Not saying</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not saying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 06:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May Allah bless you for leaving despicable Barelvism. May Allah guide Muslims out of the darkness of Barelvism and other evils.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May Allah bless you for leaving despicable Barelvism. May Allah guide Muslims out of the darkness of Barelvism and other evils.</p>
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		<title>By: Not saying</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not saying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 06:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sufism probably smells pretty bad in Jahnnam because of all the innovation and grave worship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sufism probably smells pretty bad in Jahnnam because of all the innovation and grave worship.</p>
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		<title>By: Not saying</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not saying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 06:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol......Kabbani. Sufis don&#039;t really understand Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol&#8230;&#8230;Kabbani. Sufis don&#8217;t really understand Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Yumna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abu Yumna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 13:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AoA my dear brothers.

Hope you will be fine and in good state of health and E-man by the Grace of Allah Almighty.

i have read the above comments. but unfortunately, i have not got any proper satistaction. I wonder why do we have forget our real Islam... we do not know the essence of Islam. it really made me much amazed to read the comments. i wonder why do we forget the respect of any one who is our elder... no matter who so ever it is... what kind of islam does teach us to talk like that without any respect. Even i have heard lot of people . . .  when they talk about Imam ibn Tayeemiyah Rahmatullah Alayh, imam ibn ul Qayyam Rahmatullah Alayh or anyone else like them they do not pay any respect to them, they do not say Rahmatullah Alayh... Alass ! again Alass !.  We are followin gThis is our biggest fault. we must have to accept that. We can never be successful unless we follow the true essence of Qur&#039;an and Sunnah. its wonder.. why we go against any one who we do not like. is this Islam..??? Is this the teaching of Islam..?? i do not want to indulge in any debate. just to release my views with regards to the above statements. i do not wanna fall in any sect (Firqah). I need only Islamic teaching.... i have Al-Hamdulillah read and listened to a large number of Islamic scholars (may Allah Almighty bless His Rahmat on them) of the world. the main thing i have grasped is that there is shortage of authentice references given by the scholars except Shaykh ul Islam Dr. Muhammad Tahir ul Qadri. it makes no difference what he does, write or says But one thing that is found is that he prooves every thing with authentic references. none of the scholares have done any work which he has done. No one can deny, refute or challenge his references. He knows what is Shirk, Bid&#039;ah etc... We study only one , two , four or ten then start giving our Fatwas. once some one studies his work then he stops talking or remains silent. little we know little we say correct. first of all read his books, listen to his speeches and then fine out any wrong thing. The referenes given in his Fatwa can never be challenged. and who challenged... he is suppose to provide the reference too. i have listened to many scholars, bralvi, dubanid, wahhabi.. some of them do not use proper language for one another... what is this... this is nothing but lack of knowledge of true concept of Islam. WE have forgot to endure one&#039;s talking. we have lost courage to bear some one...

I believe this is our duty in light of Allah&#039;s command and Rasool Allah&#039;s instructions that we should not scatter any news without proper research. Especially if some news involve respect of any person. And when it comes to an Alim-e-Deen, our duty increases even more.

Here is the Quranic verse I would like to refer:

O Believers! If some wicked person brings you any news, inquire thoroughly into its truth (lest) you should cause (undue) harm to a people unknowingly, and later feel regret for what you have done. (Ch. 49, V. 6)

Similarly there are Hadiths of Rasool Allah (PBUH) suggesting doing research before spreading any news.

So brother, all of us (including myself) should do extreme care before spreading any such news, especially when it is realted to any scholar.

Thank you May Allah Almighty bless His special Rahmat. Ameen.

Wassalam

Abu Yumna (Shahid Hamid)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AoA my dear brothers.</p>
<p>Hope you will be fine and in good state of health and E-man by the Grace of Allah Almighty.</p>
<p>i have read the above comments. but unfortunately, i have not got any proper satistaction. I wonder why do we have forget our real Islam&#8230; we do not know the essence of Islam. it really made me much amazed to read the comments. i wonder why do we forget the respect of any one who is our elder&#8230; no matter who so ever it is&#8230; what kind of islam does teach us to talk like that without any respect. Even i have heard lot of people . . .  when they talk about Imam ibn Tayeemiyah Rahmatullah Alayh, imam ibn ul Qayyam Rahmatullah Alayh or anyone else like them they do not pay any respect to them, they do not say Rahmatullah Alayh&#8230; Alass ! again Alass !.  We are followin gThis is our biggest fault. we must have to accept that. We can never be successful unless we follow the true essence of Qur&#8217;an and Sunnah. its wonder.. why we go against any one who we do not like. is this Islam..??? Is this the teaching of Islam..?? i do not want to indulge in any debate. just to release my views with regards to the above statements. i do not wanna fall in any sect (Firqah). I need only Islamic teaching&#8230;. i have Al-Hamdulillah read and listened to a large number of Islamic scholars (may Allah Almighty bless His Rahmat on them) of the world. the main thing i have grasped is that there is shortage of authentice references given by the scholars except Shaykh ul Islam Dr. Muhammad Tahir ul Qadri. it makes no difference what he does, write or says But one thing that is found is that he prooves every thing with authentic references. none of the scholares have done any work which he has done. No one can deny, refute or challenge his references. He knows what is Shirk, Bid&#8217;ah etc&#8230; We study only one , two , four or ten then start giving our Fatwas. once some one studies his work then he stops talking or remains silent. little we know little we say correct. first of all read his books, listen to his speeches and then fine out any wrong thing. The referenes given in his Fatwa can never be challenged. and who challenged&#8230; he is suppose to provide the reference too. i have listened to many scholars, bralvi, dubanid, wahhabi.. some of them do not use proper language for one another&#8230; what is this&#8230; this is nothing but lack of knowledge of true concept of Islam. WE have forgot to endure one&#8217;s talking. we have lost courage to bear some one&#8230;</p>
<p>I believe this is our duty in light of Allah&#8217;s command and Rasool Allah&#8217;s instructions that we should not scatter any news without proper research. Especially if some news involve respect of any person. And when it comes to an Alim-e-Deen, our duty increases even more.</p>
<p>Here is the Quranic verse I would like to refer:</p>
<p>O Believers! If some wicked person brings you any news, inquire thoroughly into its truth (lest) you should cause (undue) harm to a people unknowingly, and later feel regret for what you have done. (Ch. 49, V. 6)</p>
<p>Similarly there are Hadiths of Rasool Allah (PBUH) suggesting doing research before spreading any news.</p>
<p>So brother, all of us (including myself) should do extreme care before spreading any such news, especially when it is realted to any scholar.</p>
<p>Thank you May Allah Almighty bless His special Rahmat. Ameen.</p>
<p>Wassalam</p>
<p>Abu Yumna (Shahid Hamid)</p>
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		<title>By: Shiraz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shiraz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 23:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bismillah hir Rahmanirahim

I am confused as to why all of you are so offended? 50% of the population in Pakistan is Brelwis, whilst the dobandis and the shi imamis are 20 odd per cent each. And since you claim the shi&#039;as are with him, that means 70% of muslims in Pakistan agree with his views. 

The Deobandis, Salafis, Wahabhists are extremely intolerant and share many aspects of the Khawarij sect, I don&#039;t like to stereotype any muslim but let us be honest, when we hear of a muslim murdering muslims in terrorist attacks or we hear of a Mosque being blown up in Pakistan, it is usually most definetely a deobandi taliban loving dude. Do you deny that? 

Im sorry if my deobandi brothers feel offended, but why don&#039;t adopt tolerance and take from Rasulallah&#039;s sunnah rather than the Khawarij Taliban.

Ws</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bismillah hir Rahmanirahim</p>
<p>I am confused as to why all of you are so offended? 50% of the population in Pakistan is Brelwis, whilst the dobandis and the shi imamis are 20 odd per cent each. And since you claim the shi&#8217;as are with him, that means 70% of muslims in Pakistan agree with his views. </p>
<p>The Deobandis, Salafis, Wahabhists are extremely intolerant and share many aspects of the Khawarij sect, I don&#8217;t like to stereotype any muslim but let us be honest, when we hear of a muslim murdering muslims in terrorist attacks or we hear of a Mosque being blown up in Pakistan, it is usually most definetely a deobandi taliban loving dude. Do you deny that? </p>
<p>Im sorry if my deobandi brothers feel offended, but why don&#8217;t adopt tolerance and take from Rasulallah&#8217;s sunnah rather than the Khawarij Taliban.</p>
<p>Ws</p>
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		<title>By: Abd- Allah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abd- Allah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 19:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reality is, brother Reality, that it doesn&#039;t take a Pakistani scholar specifically to condemn terrorism in Pakistan or anywhere else. It can be done by any scholar from Ahl Assunnah Wal Jama&#039;ah from anywhere in the world. Or any other Muslim can do so for that matter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reality is, brother Reality, that it doesn&#8217;t take a Pakistani scholar specifically to condemn terrorism in Pakistan or anywhere else. It can be done by any scholar from Ahl Assunnah Wal Jama&#8217;ah from anywhere in the world. Or any other Muslim can do so for that matter!</p>
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		<title>By: Reality</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 19:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amad, you said:

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Even if 10% of the scholars in that meeting (and assuredly there were more) were Pakistanis, that would be 2000.&quot; &lt;/strong&gt;

You know as well as I do that your statement above is mere speculation and not &quot;backed by facts&quot;. Don&#039;t pretend it is.  

Regarding Muhammad Rafi Usmani, &quot;hardly any&quot; is not the same as none. So my point remains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amad, you said:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Even if 10% of the scholars in that meeting (and assuredly there were more) were Pakistanis, that would be 2000.&#8221; </strong></p>
<p>You know as well as I do that your statement above is mere speculation and not &#8220;backed by facts&#8221;. Don&#8217;t pretend it is.  </p>
<p>Regarding Muhammad Rafi Usmani, &#8220;hardly any&#8221; is not the same as none. So my point remains.</p>
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		<title>By: Amad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 18:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if 10% of the scholars in that meeting (and assuredly there were more) were Pakistanis, that would be 2000. Still a bit more than &quot;hardly any&quot;.

It doesn&#039;t matter if you are Barelwi or not, but what you are stating is not backed by facts. 

Here is some more for you:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4711003.stm

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mufti Rafi Usmani heads Darul Uloom Karachi, one of Pakistan&#039;s most respected religious schools, or madrassas.

&quot;Islam does not allow killing of innocent civilians and non-combatants under any circumstances,&quot; he said in an interview with the BBC News website. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if 10% of the scholars in that meeting (and assuredly there were more) were Pakistanis, that would be 2000. Still a bit more than &#8220;hardly any&#8221;.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter if you are Barelwi or not, but what you are stating is not backed by facts. </p>
<p>Here is some more for you:<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4711003.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4711003.stm</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Mufti Rafi Usmani heads Darul Uloom Karachi, one of Pakistan&#8217;s most respected religious schools, or madrassas.</p>
<p>&#8220;Islam does not allow killing of innocent civilians and non-combatants under any circumstances,&#8221; he said in an interview with the BBC News website. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Reality</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 18:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amad: Read more carefully:

&quot;Which other &lt;strong&gt;Pakistani &lt;/strong&gt;scholars are condemning terrorism in Pakistan? Hardly any.&quot;

The 20,000 scholars you refer to were mostly Indian -- not Pakistani -- and the Conference was in India. Try paying attention to the question this time, &quot;mate&quot;. 

I am not Barelwi. I will save you the embarrassment by not asking you how you reached that conclusion.

Cheers,
Reality</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amad: Read more carefully:</p>
<p>&#8220;Which other <strong>Pakistani </strong>scholars are condemning terrorism in Pakistan? Hardly any.&#8221;</p>
<p>The 20,000 scholars you refer to were mostly Indian &#8212; not Pakistani &#8212; and the Conference was in India. Try paying attention to the question this time, &#8220;mate&#8221;. </p>
<p>I am not Barelwi. I will save you the embarrassment by not asking you how you reached that conclusion.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Reality</p>
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