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		<title>By: ÙÙŠ Ø§Ù„Ø°ÙƒØ±Ù‰ Ø§Ù„Ø«Ø§Ù„Ø«Ø© ÙˆØ§Ù„Ø³ØªÙŠÙ† Ù„Ù„Ù†ÙƒØ¨Ø©: Ø­ÙŠÙ† ÙŠØ¹Ù„Ùˆ ØµÙˆØª ÙˆØªØºÙŠØ¨ Ø£ØµÙˆØ§Øª!! &#124; Ø¹Ø§Ù„Ù… Ø§Ù„Ø¥Ø¨</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 21:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ÙÙŠ Ø§Ù„Ø°ÙƒØ±Ù‰ Ø§Ù„Ø«Ø§Ù„Ø«Ø© ÙˆØ§Ù„Ø³ØªÙŠÙ† Ù„Ù„Ù†ÙƒØ¨Ø©: Ø­ÙŠÙ† ÙŠØ¹Ù„Ùˆ ØµÙˆØª ÙˆØªØºÙŠØ¨ Ø£ØµÙˆØ§Øª!! &#124; Ø¹Ø§Ù„Ù… Ø§Ù„Ø¥Ø¨</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 21:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pray In Accordance to the Sunnah: Women Protest Against Marginalization &#171; Muslim Apple</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] non-Muslim writes something they perceive as positive about us, whether it&#8217;s aboutÂ hijab orÂ Palestine or unjust detentions and infringements of civil liberties. Is the cause any less just or or any [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pray In Accordance to the Sunnah: Muslim Women Protest Against Marginalization &#124; MuslimMatters.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pray In Accordance to the Sunnah: Muslim Women Protest Against Marginalization &#124; MuslimMatters.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 05:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a non-Muslim writes something they perceive as positive about us, whether it&#8217;s about hijab or Palestine or unjust detentions and infringements of civil liberties. Is the cause any less just or or any [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Umm Bilqis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Umm Bilqis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 04:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Finklestein interview:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25273.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Finklestein interview:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25273.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25273.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: rebe</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no proof of holocaust deaths or native ones--are you an idiot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no proof of holocaust deaths or native ones&#8211;are you an idiot?</p>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Sheikh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muhammad Sheikh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 03:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if you don&#039;t believe that it&#039;s not morally acceptable, then it&#039;s just a matter of opinion at that point.  There&#039;s nothing that I can say to change your morals, so that&#039;s fine.  It&#039;s obvious you believe that casualties are acceptable because it&#039;s a fight over resources.  The comparison you made about food is ridiculous if I may add.  I hope I don&#039;t need to explain why.

You say there are a hundred million Arabs, as if the Arab world is united by any standard, when in fact they lack any cohesive properties whatsoever.  Other Arab countries want absolutely nothing to do with the conflict.

Even if they were united in their efforts to fix the conflict, Israel is the only country with nuclear weapons, and some US scientists say they could have up to 200 (BBC report).  So be real, any activity against a nuclear state and you risk total annihilation.

But it&#039;s obvious you lack in understanding of previous peace talks.  All previous resolutions presented to Palestinians were unacceptable if one were to look at the details.  I&#039;m not going to go over them here, there are plenty of sources discussing the talks.  The one resolution that ALL credible scholars agree upon is the most acceptable (including Palestinians), was refused by Israel.  Look up the Taba peace summit where they came close to a solution, but then Israel called off discussions.  Also examine the Geneva Accords of 2002.  Those are also unanimously accepted internationally, but refused by Israel.

It&#039;s painfully obvious you are unaware of the conditions in Gaza if you think the average civilian living in Detroit or N.O is living a lower quality of life.  I hope you decide to read some reports on conditions in the occupied territories.  B&#039;tselem is Israel&#039;s own human rights organization, check them out.  Other than that, Human Rights Watch is the most credible source.  Other sources are foreign correspondents like Robert Fisk who writes for the independent.

Like I said at first, you don&#039;t share the same moral dilemma most people experience with Israel&#039;s occupation.  Maybe you will after reading about the history of human rights violations.  Who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if you don&#8217;t believe that it&#8217;s not morally acceptable, then it&#8217;s just a matter of opinion at that point.  There&#8217;s nothing that I can say to change your morals, so that&#8217;s fine.  It&#8217;s obvious you believe that casualties are acceptable because it&#8217;s a fight over resources.  The comparison you made about food is ridiculous if I may add.  I hope I don&#8217;t need to explain why.</p>
<p>You say there are a hundred million Arabs, as if the Arab world is united by any standard, when in fact they lack any cohesive properties whatsoever.  Other Arab countries want absolutely nothing to do with the conflict.</p>
<p>Even if they were united in their efforts to fix the conflict, Israel is the only country with nuclear weapons, and some US scientists say they could have up to 200 (BBC report).  So be real, any activity against a nuclear state and you risk total annihilation.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s obvious you lack in understanding of previous peace talks.  All previous resolutions presented to Palestinians were unacceptable if one were to look at the details.  I&#8217;m not going to go over them here, there are plenty of sources discussing the talks.  The one resolution that ALL credible scholars agree upon is the most acceptable (including Palestinians), was refused by Israel.  Look up the Taba peace summit where they came close to a solution, but then Israel called off discussions.  Also examine the Geneva Accords of 2002.  Those are also unanimously accepted internationally, but refused by Israel.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s painfully obvious you are unaware of the conditions in Gaza if you think the average civilian living in Detroit or N.O is living a lower quality of life.  I hope you decide to read some reports on conditions in the occupied territories.  B&#8217;tselem is Israel&#8217;s own human rights organization, check them out.  Other than that, Human Rights Watch is the most credible source.  Other sources are foreign correspondents like Robert Fisk who writes for the independent.</p>
<p>Like I said at first, you don&#8217;t share the same moral dilemma most people experience with Israel&#8217;s occupation.  Maybe you will after reading about the history of human rights violations.  Who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiriolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiriolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe in International law. It has no bearing here, people won a piece of land in a civil war are not going to just give it back, because some internationalist said to do so. The Israelis are hot super humans, they can be defeated. There is over a hundred million Arabs, and they as a people have unlimited funds. They can buy weapons and use their mass of humanity to attack and invade Israel. Stronger countries have been defeated throughout history. This isn&#039;t a perfect world to argue what is just and what is not is pointless. This world is about one group of people competing with another group of people for limited resources. If you got kids and just enough food to keep them alive, and some international body says to give the food to another person and let your kids die of hunger, I doubt you or anyone else would. It&#039;s a messy and complicated situation. The only way it will be resolved is one group is annihilated or exiled from the land. Neither side is going to give in an inch. Wasn&#039;t it the Palestinians who rejected a peace deal that would have given them a certain amount of land when Clinton was the president and Arafat was still alive? Do you think both sides even one a resolution when they both benefit financially from the conflict? Israel is a welfare state, and the Palestinians are the most prosperous and pampered oppressed people in history I know of. The average Palestinian lives better then the average Detroiter or New Orleanian resident. Lets not even bring up how much better they have it compared to people in the conflict zones of Africa and Asia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe in International law. It has no bearing here, people won a piece of land in a civil war are not going to just give it back, because some internationalist said to do so. The Israelis are hot super humans, they can be defeated. There is over a hundred million Arabs, and they as a people have unlimited funds. They can buy weapons and use their mass of humanity to attack and invade Israel. Stronger countries have been defeated throughout history. This isn&#8217;t a perfect world to argue what is just and what is not is pointless. This world is about one group of people competing with another group of people for limited resources. If you got kids and just enough food to keep them alive, and some international body says to give the food to another person and let your kids die of hunger, I doubt you or anyone else would. It&#8217;s a messy and complicated situation. The only way it will be resolved is one group is annihilated or exiled from the land. Neither side is going to give in an inch. Wasn&#8217;t it the Palestinians who rejected a peace deal that would have given them a certain amount of land when Clinton was the president and Arafat was still alive? Do you think both sides even one a resolution when they both benefit financially from the conflict? Israel is a welfare state, and the Palestinians are the most prosperous and pampered oppressed people in history I know of. The average Palestinian lives better then the average Detroiter or New Orleanian resident. Lets not even bring up how much better they have it compared to people in the conflict zones of Africa and Asia.</p>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Sheikh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muhammad Sheikh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, they are absolutely different conflicts.  You are correct about this.

But in the very general sense that I made a point in, they share the same qualities.  One extremely stronger force vs. another under the guise of a morale agenda, when in reality for the sake of strategic gain and/or wealth.

Yes, the Native Americans still do exist, but at a insignificant fraction of what their community once was.  This is off topic though.

Why do you think I&#039;m an immoral person?  Why would I not see fault in the Turk genocide in Turkey?  Why would I not see fault in the genocide in Cambodia, in Laos?  In Rwanda?  In Darfur?  Why would I not see fault in the Holocaust?  I don&#039;t understand what you&#039;re trying to get at.  

I guess I have to keep going back to this point.  It&#039;s against international law to do what Israel is doing.  Therefore, they should be punished and the land should be returned to the Palestinians.  It&#039;s that simple.

I don&#039;t know how many times I have to go back to this point, but the Palestinians are still fighting for a return to the 1974 borders, not &#039;48.  They are not fighting for the return of some cosmic intangible goal, of a war that occured centuries ago.  In fact, many Israelis argue that it is their land from whatever thousand years ago, therefore it is right for them to uproot the Palestinians and reclaim their land.  What do you say to that?

The UN annually votes for a return to the 1974 borders.  The international community is unanimous in this issue except for Israel, America, and one or two other insignificant bodies.  With every single country in the world is arguing for the sake of Palestinians, why do you think it&#039;s so intangible and dare I say, petty, for them to want their land back?

Israelis are taking land right now.  They are continuing to build settlements right now.  Recently they have said they will build 1600+ more homes in Jewish only settlements.  Is it just?  I&#039;m sure you can see why it&#039;s an issue.  But what I don&#039;t understand is why you think it&#039;s right, because it&#039;s been continuously going on for 70 years.

You still haven&#039;t answered my question though.  Your previous claim was that if Palestinians stopped eating kebabs, they could get their land back.  I&#039;d love to see what ideas you have for how the Palestinians alone can topple the Israeli occupation.  I&#039;m sure they&#039;d be interested as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they are absolutely different conflicts.  You are correct about this.</p>
<p>But in the very general sense that I made a point in, they share the same qualities.  One extremely stronger force vs. another under the guise of a morale agenda, when in reality for the sake of strategic gain and/or wealth.</p>
<p>Yes, the Native Americans still do exist, but at a insignificant fraction of what their community once was.  This is off topic though.</p>
<p>Why do you think I&#8217;m an immoral person?  Why would I not see fault in the Turk genocide in Turkey?  Why would I not see fault in the genocide in Cambodia, in Laos?  In Rwanda?  In Darfur?  Why would I not see fault in the Holocaust?  I don&#8217;t understand what you&#8217;re trying to get at.  </p>
<p>I guess I have to keep going back to this point.  It&#8217;s against international law to do what Israel is doing.  Therefore, they should be punished and the land should be returned to the Palestinians.  It&#8217;s that simple.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how many times I have to go back to this point, but the Palestinians are still fighting for a return to the 1974 borders, not &#8217;48.  They are not fighting for the return of some cosmic intangible goal, of a war that occured centuries ago.  In fact, many Israelis argue that it is their land from whatever thousand years ago, therefore it is right for them to uproot the Palestinians and reclaim their land.  What do you say to that?</p>
<p>The UN annually votes for a return to the 1974 borders.  The international community is unanimous in this issue except for Israel, America, and one or two other insignificant bodies.  With every single country in the world is arguing for the sake of Palestinians, why do you think it&#8217;s so intangible and dare I say, petty, for them to want their land back?</p>
<p>Israelis are taking land right now.  They are continuing to build settlements right now.  Recently they have said they will build 1600+ more homes in Jewish only settlements.  Is it just?  I&#8217;m sure you can see why it&#8217;s an issue.  But what I don&#8217;t understand is why you think it&#8217;s right, because it&#8217;s been continuously going on for 70 years.</p>
<p>You still haven&#8217;t answered my question though.  Your previous claim was that if Palestinians stopped eating kebabs, they could get their land back.  I&#8217;d love to see what ideas you have for how the Palestinians alone can topple the Israeli occupation.  I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;d be interested as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiriolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiriolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To compare the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to the situation in Israel/Palestine is disingenuous. The history and makeup of the conflicts couldn&#039;t be more different. The Jews had a presence in Palestine, and they fought a civil war with the Arabs. They weren&#039;t outsiders who invaded the country like the US did in Iraq or Afghanistan.

The Native Americans weren&#039;t killed off they still exist. Do you think it is morally acceptable the Turks systematically killed and raped Armenians and stole their land, and incorporated into modern day Turkey? Do you think the Pakistanis should give back the Sikh temples back to the Sikhs when they were forced out of the Western Punjab. If you think the Palestinians deserve their land back, then you have to support the Armenian and Sikh examples too, if not you&#039;re a hypocrite. Just about every inch of land has been conquered and lost by different groups. Why should one people deserve to get their land back and not others? See how sticky the situation is, it what create complete chaos in the world. That is why land only belongs to those who are strong enough to hold it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To compare the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to the situation in Israel/Palestine is disingenuous. The history and makeup of the conflicts couldn&#8217;t be more different. The Jews had a presence in Palestine, and they fought a civil war with the Arabs. They weren&#8217;t outsiders who invaded the country like the US did in Iraq or Afghanistan.</p>
<p>The Native Americans weren&#8217;t killed off they still exist. Do you think it is morally acceptable the Turks systematically killed and raped Armenians and stole their land, and incorporated into modern day Turkey? Do you think the Pakistanis should give back the Sikh temples back to the Sikhs when they were forced out of the Western Punjab. If you think the Palestinians deserve their land back, then you have to support the Armenian and Sikh examples too, if not you&#8217;re a hypocrite. Just about every inch of land has been conquered and lost by different groups. Why should one people deserve to get their land back and not others? See how sticky the situation is, it what create complete chaos in the world. That is why land only belongs to those who are strong enough to hold it.</p>
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