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	<title>Comments on: The Case of the Swiss Minarets (as Switzerland votes to ban minarets)</title>
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		<title>By: Reclaiming The Perceptions Of Muslims, pt. 4 &#8211; Analyse Your Press Release; Serving Non-Muslims &#124; MuslimMatters.org</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/11/30/the-case-of-the-swiss-minarets/#comment-80303</link>
		<dc:creator>Reclaiming The Perceptions Of Muslims, pt. 4 &#8211; Analyse Your Press Release; Serving Non-Muslims &#124; MuslimMatters.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Muslimmatters.org covered the Swiss minaret affair, here are some responses: iMuslim: &#8220;I&#8217;m not saying we shouldn&#8217;t assert ourselves, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Saeed Babar</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/11/30/the-case-of-the-swiss-minarets/#comment-59861</link>
		<dc:creator>Muhammad Saeed Babar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/09/business/09trust.html?pagewanted=2&amp;fta=y&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;â€œSuddenly the hatred of the petrodollar days is back,â€ &lt;/a&gt;he said. A gruff, burly man who was a partner at Price Waterhouse before coming to DMI, his voice rises as he explains that jihad can also mean a nonviolent struggle for a pure, legitimate end. He added: â€œRarely in the Western media do I read anything about our food, our culture, our painting or our poetry. I just read how bad we are as Muslims.â€</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/09/business/09trust.html?pagewanted=2&amp;fta=y" rel="nofollow">â€œSuddenly the hatred of the petrodollar days is back,â€ </a>he said. A gruff, burly man who was a partner at Price Waterhouse before coming to DMI, his voice rises as he explains that jihad can also mean a nonviolent struggle for a pure, legitimate end. He added: â€œRarely in the Western media do I read anything about our food, our culture, our painting or our poetry. I just read how bad we are as Muslims.â€</p>
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		<title>By: Umm Bilqis</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/11/30/the-case-of-the-swiss-minarets/#comment-59515</link>
		<dc:creator>Umm Bilqis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl&gt;&gt; Video On Islamophobia
Thought you might to see the stop the war coalition in U.K.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzOotCGVHkw
Political ineptness is not a problem of Muslims only but of different people in U.S and Europe as well as the rest of the world who don&#039;t know their priorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl&gt;&gt; Video On Islamophobia<br />
Thought you might to see the stop the war coalition in U.K.</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://muslimmatters.org/2009/11/30/the-case-of-the-swiss-minarets/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/ZzOotCGVHkw/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span><br />
Political ineptness is not a problem of Muslims only but of different people in U.S and Europe as well as the rest of the world who don&#8217;t know their priorities.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/11/30/the-case-of-the-swiss-minarets/#comment-59477</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and .... I forgot to add, those minaret devotees in Basel played right into the hands of some crooked right-wing political party that needed an issue pronto, so they could hypercharge chauvvinistic Swiss farmers and win the next election. Congratulations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and &#8230;. I forgot to add, those minaret devotees in Basel played right into the hands of some crooked right-wing political party that needed an issue pronto, so they could hypercharge chauvvinistic Swiss farmers and win the next election. Congratulations!</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/11/30/the-case-of-the-swiss-minarets/#comment-59471</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 05:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s important to point out that tolerance is a scarce commodity. It&#039;s not something that should be demanded in unlimited quantities. Just because a law grants you a right does not mean it&#039;s to your advantage to do so at the very first opportunity. Perhaps exercising a given legal advantage (right) at a given moment will be canceled out by some countermeasure in the political sphere.  

I think that is a good description of the Swiss minaret debacle. I grant it was a mean-spirited gesture of the Swiss to ban minarets, but actually the whole issue was brought up in the first place by Moslem residents of Switzerland who rashly insisted on the fulfillment of their legal right to demand something completely unnecessary, namely a minaret. Of course the Swiss judicial system, which is innocent of any bias (I mean it) eventually found in favor of the  minaret. However it was a rather delicate moment in Moslem-Western relations, so the legal dispute touched off a wave of nationalist sentiment that said, so to speak: â€œCongratulations! You got your minaret. Enjoy it, because there arenâ€™t going to  be any more,â€ and simply changed the rules so that now nobody is entitled to a minaret any more. 

Without having researched the issue, it seems to me that this incident implies, among other things,  that Muslim minorities should be better organized, so they can deal with issues at a national level, instead of, as obviously happened here, a single local Islamic community deciding to go to court and thus altering European history. The decision whether or not to appeal the local authorityâ€™s minaret ban should have been made centrally by some national, or even Europe-wide, Islamic organization. An organization broad enough  to be guided by an overall strategic picture instead of by personal whims, and staffed with competent political scientists who are able to estimate  the political consequences of some legal action.  

But then again, it may just be because Switzerland is so decentralized that a nationwide Islamic organization would have nobody to negotiate with. Thereâ€™s no main switch. 

It&#039;s  not the first time Iâ€™ve seen politically inept Moslems in action. One conclusion that stuck in my mind after reading a history of the Palestine conflict is that Arab political leadership was lousy. For decades on end the Palestinians fruitlessly pursued maximalist agendas, unguided by any clear strategy of how to hold on to their land.  Until one day they lost it.</description>
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<p>I think that is a good description of the Swiss minaret debacle. I grant it was a mean-spirited gesture of the Swiss to ban minarets, but actually the whole issue was brought up in the first place by Moslem residents of Switzerland who rashly insisted on the fulfillment of their legal right to demand something completely unnecessary, namely a minaret. Of course the Swiss judicial system, which is innocent of any bias (I mean it) eventually found in favor of the  minaret. However it was a rather delicate moment in Moslem-Western relations, so the legal dispute touched off a wave of nationalist sentiment that said, so to speak: â€œCongratulations! You got your minaret. Enjoy it, because there arenâ€™t going to  be any more,â€ and simply changed the rules so that now nobody is entitled to a minaret any more. </p>
<p>Without having researched the issue, it seems to me that this incident implies, among other things,  that Muslim minorities should be better organized, so they can deal with issues at a national level, instead of, as obviously happened here, a single local Islamic community deciding to go to court and thus altering European history. The decision whether or not to appeal the local authorityâ€™s minaret ban should have been made centrally by some national, or even Europe-wide, Islamic organization. An organization broad enough  to be guided by an overall strategic picture instead of by personal whims, and staffed with competent political scientists who are able to estimate  the political consequences of some legal action.  </p>
<p>But then again, it may just be because Switzerland is so decentralized that a nationwide Islamic organization would have nobody to negotiate with. Thereâ€™s no main switch. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s  not the first time Iâ€™ve seen politically inept Moslems in action. One conclusion that stuck in my mind after reading a history of the Palestine conflict is that Arab political leadership was lousy. For decades on end the Palestinians fruitlessly pursued maximalist agendas, unguided by any clear strategy of how to hold on to their land.  Until one day they lost it.</p>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Saeed Babar</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/11/30/the-case-of-the-swiss-minarets/#comment-59405</link>
		<dc:creator>Muhammad Saeed Babar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is happening to us - Muslims - is because we have forgotten the Quran. We only pay lip service to rules and regulations laid down in it for our guidance in this world and hereafter. Here is a very relevant passage from Quran.

&quot;Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home): unto all (in faith) hath Allah promised good: but those who strive and fight hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward.&quot; Aya 95 of Sura An-Nisaa

&quot;When angels take the souls of those who die in sin against their souls they say: &quot;In what (plight) were ye?&quot; They reply: &quot;Weak and oppressed were we in the earth.&quot; They say: &quot;Was not the earth of Allah spacious enough for you to move yourselves away (from evil)?&quot; Such men will find their abode in Hell what an evil refuge!&quot; Aya 97 of Sura An-Nisaa

&quot;He who forsakes his home in the cause of Allah finds in the earth many a refuge wide and spacious: should he die as a refugee from home for Allah and his Apostle his reward becomes due and sure with Allah: and Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful.&quot; Aya 100 of Sura An-Nisaa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is happening to us &#8211; Muslims &#8211; is because we have forgotten the Quran. We only pay lip service to rules and regulations laid down in it for our guidance in this world and hereafter. Here is a very relevant passage from Quran.</p>
<p>&#8220;Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home): unto all (in faith) hath Allah promised good: but those who strive and fight hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward.&#8221; Aya 95 of Sura An-Nisaa</p>
<p>&#8220;When angels take the souls of those who die in sin against their souls they say: &#8220;In what (plight) were ye?&#8221; They reply: &#8220;Weak and oppressed were we in the earth.&#8221; They say: &#8220;Was not the earth of Allah spacious enough for you to move yourselves away (from evil)?&#8221; Such men will find their abode in Hell what an evil refuge!&#8221; Aya 97 of Sura An-Nisaa</p>
<p>&#8220;He who forsakes his home in the cause of Allah finds in the earth many a refuge wide and spacious: should he die as a refugee from home for Allah and his Apostle his reward becomes due and sure with Allah: and Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful.&#8221; Aya 100 of Sura An-Nisaa</p>
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		<title>By: Umm Bilqis</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/11/30/the-case-of-the-swiss-minarets/#comment-59400</link>
		<dc:creator>Umm Bilqis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl it is the indication of rising Islamophobia that is unsettling, not so much as the minaret and its function.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl it is the indication of rising Islamophobia that is unsettling, not so much as the minaret and its function.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/11/30/the-case-of-the-swiss-minarets/#comment-59393</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This minaret ban certainly sounds very distressing. Apparently minarets play an important role in Islamic life. Could somebody explain to me exactly what minarets are used for? Which vital function they perform in Islam?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This minaret ban certainly sounds very distressing. Apparently minarets play an important role in Islamic life. Could somebody explain to me exactly what minarets are used for? Which vital function they perform in Islam?</p>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Saeed Babar</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/11/30/the-case-of-the-swiss-minarets/#comment-59359</link>
		<dc:creator>Muhammad Saeed Babar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion this has been explained in Aya 120 of Sura Al-Baqara

&quot;Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: &quot;The guidance of  Allah that is the (only) guidance.&quot; Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee then wouldst thou find neither protector nor helper against Allah. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion this has been explained in Aya 120 of Sura Al-Baqara</p>
<p>&#8220;Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: &#8220;The guidance of  Allah that is the (only) guidance.&#8221; Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee then wouldst thou find neither protector nor helper against Allah. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Nabeel</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/11/30/the-case-of-the-swiss-minarets/#comment-58930</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabeel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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