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	<title>Comments on: Marketing Islamic Knowledge &#8211; Professionalism or Selling at All Costs?</title>
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		<title>By: another muslimah</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/10/05/marketing-islamic-knowledge-professionalism-or-selling-at-all-costs/#comment-51558</link>
		<dc:creator>another muslimah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be interesting to explore what actually &quot;works&quot; when marketing. in terms of attracting and retaining program participants. 

Some of the less appealing techniques referred to above might actually get more response and results (e.g. more registrations) and that is why they are pursued.

The loud neon colored flyer is more likely picked up than the inoffensive bland one. The urgent, emotional appeal leads to more action than the cold, just-the-facts-ma&#039;am approach.

It is what people respond to that often drives the sales technique. It would be interesting to find out from organizations what works for them. Is that why they are doing what they do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to explore what actually &#8220;works&#8221; when marketing. in terms of attracting and retaining program participants. </p>
<p>Some of the less appealing techniques referred to above might actually get more response and results (e.g. more registrations) and that is why they are pursued.</p>
<p>The loud neon colored flyer is more likely picked up than the inoffensive bland one. The urgent, emotional appeal leads to more action than the cold, just-the-facts-ma&#8217;am approach.</p>
<p>It is what people respond to that often drives the sales technique. It would be interesting to find out from organizations what works for them. Is that why they are doing what they do?</p>
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		<title>By: Yasir Hilal</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/10/05/marketing-islamic-knowledge-professionalism-or-selling-at-all-costs/#comment-51235</link>
		<dc:creator>Yasir Hilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalamualakum.

I will like to start by clarifying that promoting islamic institutes and classes should not be called marketing but rather infroming, making aware or educating. 

My second point is that we are people that make institutes a success or a failure. We are the promoters, marketers and students. These institute can work exactly the way we want if we participate with good intention. 

A brief idea I will love to see implemented is that we decide what courses be offered at what time. Let all the institutes conduct frequent classes but rather let them follow a manhaj as one. Let the intention be to cover all topics of Shariah and have no overlaps so that the students can benefeit in an organized fashion. 

Lets structure ourselves and this is a special message to all Tornotians as that is the happening city for Islamic Institute. Lets be the examples to be followed.

JazakaAllah Khair</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamualakum.</p>
<p>I will like to start by clarifying that promoting islamic institutes and classes should not be called marketing but rather infroming, making aware or educating. </p>
<p>My second point is that we are people that make institutes a success or a failure. We are the promoters, marketers and students. These institute can work exactly the way we want if we participate with good intention. </p>
<p>A brief idea I will love to see implemented is that we decide what courses be offered at what time. Let all the institutes conduct frequent classes but rather let them follow a manhaj as one. Let the intention be to cover all topics of Shariah and have no overlaps so that the students can benefeit in an organized fashion. </p>
<p>Lets structure ourselves and this is a special message to all Tornotians as that is the happening city for Islamic Institute. Lets be the examples to be followed.</p>
<p>JazakaAllah Khair</p>
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		<title>By: h. ahmed</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/10/05/marketing-islamic-knowledge-professionalism-or-selling-at-all-costs/#comment-50672</link>
		<dc:creator>h. ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent comment, Westendraider!!!

I could not agree more!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent comment, Westendraider!!!</p>
<p>I could not agree more!!!</p>
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		<title>By: BrotherMuslim</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/10/05/marketing-islamic-knowledge-professionalism-or-selling-at-all-costs/#comment-50660</link>
		<dc:creator>BrotherMuslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The institutes must work together and realize that success and failure and acceptance is in the Hands of Allah. There goal should be to please Allah and spread Islam. 

Why is it that one institute does not allow another to advertise outside of their classes??? This is the real problem. Why not let the other institutes hand out flyers and advertise during anothers seminar? 

Especially if they are legitimate and respectable and the student body is the same? 

Just my thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The institutes must work together and realize that success and failure and acceptance is in the Hands of Allah. There goal should be to please Allah and spread Islam. </p>
<p>Why is it that one institute does not allow another to advertise outside of their classes??? This is the real problem. Why not let the other institutes hand out flyers and advertise during anothers seminar? </p>
<p>Especially if they are legitimate and respectable and the student body is the same? </p>
<p>Just my thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Siraaj Muhammad</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/10/05/marketing-islamic-knowledge-professionalism-or-selling-at-all-costs/#comment-50659</link>
		<dc:creator>Siraaj Muhammad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Referencing Murphy and Faiez&#039;s foray into MCC back when we marketed for TSP.

Siraaj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Referencing Murphy and Faiez&#8217;s foray into MCC back when we marketed for TSP.</p>
<p>Siraaj</p>
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		<title>By: SaqibSaab</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/10/05/marketing-islamic-knowledge-professionalism-or-selling-at-all-costs/#comment-50656</link>
		<dc:creator>SaqibSaab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great joke, Abdel. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great joke, Abdel. :P</p>
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		<title>By: SaqibSaab</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/10/05/marketing-islamic-knowledge-professionalism-or-selling-at-all-costs/#comment-50655</link>
		<dc:creator>SaqibSaab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Siraaj, which neighborhoods are you referring to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Siraaj, which neighborhoods are you referring to?</p>
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		<title>By: Iftikhar</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/10/05/marketing-islamic-knowledge-professionalism-or-selling-at-all-costs/#comment-50638</link>
		<dc:creator>Iftikhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The demand for Muslim schools comes from parents who want their children a safe environment with an Islamic ethos.Parents see Muslim schools where children can develop their Islamic Identity where they won&#039;t feel stigmatised for being Muslims and they can feel confident about their faith. Muslim schools are working to try to create a bridge between communities. 

There is a belief among ethnic minority parens that the British schooling does not adequatly address their cultural needs. Failing to meet this need could result in feeling resentment among a group who already feel excluded. Setting up Muslim school is a defensive response.

State schools with monolingual teachers are not capable to teach English to bilingual Muslim children. Bilingual teachers are needed to teach English to such children along with their mother tongue. According to a number of studies, a child will not learn a second language if his first language is ignored.

Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. Muslims 
have the right to educate their children in an environment that suits their culture. This notion of &quot;integration&quot;, actually means &quot;assimilation&quot;, by which people generally really mean &quot;be more like me&quot;. That is not multiculturalism. In Sydney, Muslims were refused to build a Muslim school, because of a protest by the residents. Yet a year later, permission was given for the building of a Catholic school and no protests from the residents. This clrearly shows the blatant hypocrisy, double standards and racism. Christians oppose Muslim schools in western countries yet build their own religious schools.

British schooling and the British society is the home of institutional racism. The result is that Muslim children are unable to develop self-confidence and self-esteem, therefore, majority of them leave schools with low grades. Racism is deeply rooted in British society. Every native child is born with a gene or virus of racism, therefore, no law could change the attitudes of racism towards those who are different. It is not only the common man, even member of the royal family is involved in racism. The father of a Pakistani officer cadet who was called a &quot;Paki&quot; by Prince Harry has profoundly condemned his actions. He had felt proud when he met the Queen and the Prince of Wales at his son&#039;s passing out parade at Sandhurst in 2006 but now felt upset after learning about the Prince&#039;s comments. Queen Victoria invited an Imam from India to teach her Urdu language. He was highly respected by the Queen but other members of the royal family had no respect for him. He was forced to go back to India. His portrait is still in one of the royal place.

There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools with bilingual Muslim teachers. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

Iftikhar Ahmad

www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The demand for Muslim schools comes from parents who want their children a safe environment with an Islamic ethos.Parents see Muslim schools where children can develop their Islamic Identity where they won&#8217;t feel stigmatised for being Muslims and they can feel confident about their faith. Muslim schools are working to try to create a bridge between communities. </p>
<p>There is a belief among ethnic minority parens that the British schooling does not adequatly address their cultural needs. Failing to meet this need could result in feeling resentment among a group who already feel excluded. Setting up Muslim school is a defensive response.</p>
<p>State schools with monolingual teachers are not capable to teach English to bilingual Muslim children. Bilingual teachers are needed to teach English to such children along with their mother tongue. According to a number of studies, a child will not learn a second language if his first language is ignored.</p>
<p>Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. Muslims<br />
have the right to educate their children in an environment that suits their culture. This notion of &#8220;integration&#8221;, actually means &#8220;assimilation&#8221;, by which people generally really mean &#8220;be more like me&#8221;. That is not multiculturalism. In Sydney, Muslims were refused to build a Muslim school, because of a protest by the residents. Yet a year later, permission was given for the building of a Catholic school and no protests from the residents. This clrearly shows the blatant hypocrisy, double standards and racism. Christians oppose Muslim schools in western countries yet build their own religious schools.</p>
<p>British schooling and the British society is the home of institutional racism. The result is that Muslim children are unable to develop self-confidence and self-esteem, therefore, majority of them leave schools with low grades. Racism is deeply rooted in British society. Every native child is born with a gene or virus of racism, therefore, no law could change the attitudes of racism towards those who are different. It is not only the common man, even member of the royal family is involved in racism. The father of a Pakistani officer cadet who was called a &#8220;Paki&#8221; by Prince Harry has profoundly condemned his actions. He had felt proud when he met the Queen and the Prince of Wales at his son&#8217;s passing out parade at Sandhurst in 2006 but now felt upset after learning about the Prince&#8217;s comments. Queen Victoria invited an Imam from India to teach her Urdu language. He was highly respected by the Queen but other members of the royal family had no respect for him. He was forced to go back to India. His portrait is still in one of the royal place.</p>
<p>There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools with bilingual Muslim teachers. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.</p>
<p>Iftikhar Ahmad</p>
<p><a href="http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk</a></p>
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		<title>By: midatlantic</title>
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		<dc:creator>midatlantic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 03:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a good question</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a good question</p>
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		<title>By: Ikhlas</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/10/05/marketing-islamic-knowledge-professionalism-or-selling-at-all-costs/#comment-50626</link>
		<dc:creator>Ikhlas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 03:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the Almaghrib Qabail offer financial assistance and contact for them can easily be found on forums so yeah where there is a will, there is a way.

I know sooo many students who were able to find sponsors for themselves for multiple seminars. its about taking a initiative and being pro-active about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the Almaghrib Qabail offer financial assistance and contact for them can easily be found on forums so yeah where there is a will, there is a way.</p>
<p>I know sooo many students who were able to find sponsors for themselves for multiple seminars. its about taking a initiative and being pro-active about it.</p>
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