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	<title>Comments on: Children @ Taraweeh: Storm in a Teacup</title>
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		<title>By: Tasneem</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/09/06/children-taraweeh-storm-in-a-teacup/#comment-65943</link>
		<dc:creator>Tasneem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an issue close to heart, and I do not understand why during nafl prayers people make such a big deal if a child does happen to step in front of them. i sit at teh back so i am not disturbing anyone and I am forced to join the rows in front where inevitably my kids (3 and 5) run to find me. Why can&#039;t we respect another&#039;s decesion and show a little understanding!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an issue close to heart, and I do not understand why during nafl prayers people make such a big deal if a child does happen to step in front of them. i sit at teh back so i am not disturbing anyone and I am forced to join the rows in front where inevitably my kids (3 and 5) run to find me. Why can&#8217;t we respect another&#8217;s decesion and show a little understanding!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Umm Abdullah</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/09/06/children-taraweeh-storm-in-a-teacup/#comment-56019</link>
		<dc:creator>Umm Abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed reading this article and the comments....and have a few comments/questions of my own...
If Allah&#039;s and the Prophet&#039;s (sallallahu alaihi wassalam) instruction and will was for the women to stay at home and pray because it was more rewarding:
 Why are there ahadith mentioning :
1. how he would carry Umamah on his shoulders while praying,
2. how he picked up Hassan and Hussain when they walked in during a sermon and kissed them,
3. how he SHORTENED HIS SALAH FOR A WOMAN&#039;S BABY WAS CRYING
4. how he forbade men from forbidding women to go to the masjid
5. how he made it necessary for women to participate in the Eid salah and dua (even if they don&#039;t have to pray)
Don&#039;t you think all this is telling us something? Didn&#039;t the women of that time know that salah at home was better? why did they go out in the dark for fajr and isha salah (perhaps because it has loud recitation which brings spirituality to an otherwise mundane day). 
Why did they pray in congregation at all? Why was the mother whose baby cried and caused the Prophet (pbuh) to shorten his salah, not be forbidden from coming to the masjid, or any mothers with babies? no woman has the time to go to a masjid 5 times a day...its sometimes that she wants to seek the spiritual comfort and strentgh that comes in such a place.

Why are our children running away from masaajid, maybe because of some harsh experience they remember from childhood, why do the people become so harsh in deen, why not show them some love, lend a helping hand to the struggling mother? Its not just about women with kids too....the intolerance in masajid in pakistan is on every issue of insignificance, such as  that kid should be wearing a cap for salah (it actually happened), why is he raising his hands too much, why is his finger moving in tashahhud, why is he saying ameen aloud. Hence we have forgotten what was really important for the sake of non-issues and killed the spirit of salah.
I have seen fights and doors being slammed in the face of mothers and sreaming in masajid during the salah, in Ramadan , the month of mercy.
If our mothers are forbidden from masajid, who will acclamatize the children to them? Who will teach them how to act in a masjid if they are not allowed inside.
Yes mothers need to be taught how to handle kids in masajid...but this needs to be done in a planned civilized manner, maybe a few short talks after every salah in ramadan, maybe fliers...not this way....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed reading this article and the comments&#8230;.and have a few comments/questions of my own&#8230;<br />
If Allah&#8217;s and the Prophet&#8217;s (sallallahu alaihi wassalam) instruction and will was for the women to stay at home and pray because it was more rewarding:<br />
 Why are there ahadith mentioning :<br />
1. how he would carry Umamah on his shoulders while praying,<br />
2. how he picked up Hassan and Hussain when they walked in during a sermon and kissed them,<br />
3. how he SHORTENED HIS SALAH FOR A WOMAN&#8217;S BABY WAS CRYING<br />
4. how he forbade men from forbidding women to go to the masjid<br />
5. how he made it necessary for women to participate in the Eid salah and dua (even if they don&#8217;t have to pray)<br />
Don&#8217;t you think all this is telling us something? Didn&#8217;t the women of that time know that salah at home was better? why did they go out in the dark for fajr and isha salah (perhaps because it has loud recitation which brings spirituality to an otherwise mundane day).<br />
Why did they pray in congregation at all? Why was the mother whose baby cried and caused the Prophet (pbuh) to shorten his salah, not be forbidden from coming to the masjid, or any mothers with babies? no woman has the time to go to a masjid 5 times a day&#8230;its sometimes that she wants to seek the spiritual comfort and strentgh that comes in such a place.</p>
<p>Why are our children running away from masaajid, maybe because of some harsh experience they remember from childhood, why do the people become so harsh in deen, why not show them some love, lend a helping hand to the struggling mother? Its not just about women with kids too&#8230;.the intolerance in masajid in pakistan is on every issue of insignificance, such as  that kid should be wearing a cap for salah (it actually happened), why is he raising his hands too much, why is his finger moving in tashahhud, why is he saying ameen aloud. Hence we have forgotten what was really important for the sake of non-issues and killed the spirit of salah.<br />
I have seen fights and doors being slammed in the face of mothers and sreaming in masajid during the salah, in Ramadan , the month of mercy.<br />
If our mothers are forbidden from masajid, who will acclamatize the children to them? Who will teach them how to act in a masjid if they are not allowed inside.<br />
Yes mothers need to be taught how to handle kids in masajid&#8230;but this needs to be done in a planned civilized manner, maybe a few short talks after every salah in ramadan, maybe fliers&#8230;not this way&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Ayesha Al Emarati</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/09/06/children-taraweeh-storm-in-a-teacup/#comment-49155</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Ayesha Al Emarati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MashaAllah, always a pleasure to read what you have to say. A very well thought ot post and I agree entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MashaAllah, always a pleasure to read what you have to say. A very well thought ot post and I agree entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Rumaisa</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/09/06/children-taraweeh-storm-in-a-teacup/#comment-49145</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Rumaisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My siblings &amp; used go to the mosques in Saudi since we were abt 3-4yrs old since we could comprehend most instructions &amp; were able to comply fully. I was definitely more aware of  the situation when my younger cousins were growing up.. children were told that they are going to the House of Allah &amp; have to be respectful and quiet in there. If anyone misbehaved then either their dads or uncles (my father being one of them) would give them the stare and that was more enough to bring them back to good behavior. If parents failed or were unable to control, random uncle in the masjid would give the kid a piece of his mind &amp; that always worked. Unlike parents of today who are overprotective of kids, they were ok when strangers disciplined their kids as it was their own good &amp; for the good of the community. I hardly recall seeing toddlers younger than 3 in masjids (other than the two holy mosques). 

I am not against bringing children to the mosque but those younger than 3 don&#039;t understand what&#039;s going completely &amp; r still getting used to behaving well. And if they see other kids running around, they will follow them. If u want to take them to masjid to pray salaah every now &amp; then it&#039;s ok but to bring them in for taraweeh when u know very well that the kid can&#039;t be behaved for such long periods of time is being selfish.

I learned my lesson the hard way... I have a daughter who is two yrs old, last year my wife was in Saudi &amp; either my mother or her mother took care of my daughter when she went for taraweeh. So this year was the 1st year we took her to taraweeh, we would keep her by our side when the prayer started but half way through the 1st rakah she was gone..usually to the water cooler to make a mess. No matter what we were not able to get it rite that nite, the next day it was the same thing but the masjid officials decided to remove the cooler due to the mess being made by these kid, my daughter being one of them. With the cooler gone, we thought we were ok now. But that wasn&#039;t the case, by now she was friends with other toddlers and this meant running, screaming around with them. I know that my daughter is too young to understand the importance of the mosque.. to her it&#039;s just large open space to play. I can&#039;t make a two yr old sit in one place for two hrs, I m being impractical if think I can do that. The masjid isn&#039;t large enough to have a room for kids, it&#039;s a section for men &amp; another for women. We had to make the tough choice &amp; my wife decided to stay home... disturbing the prayers of 50 ppl to get the pleasure of taraweeh in masjid was a selfish act according for her &amp; rightly so. 

Prior to ramadan, I did take her to the masjid for maghrib or isha &amp; still do so. But since the prayers are short, she&#039;s well behaved during these prayers. If she can comprehend the importance of masjid &amp; stay behaved for 2 hours by next ramadan then insha&#039;Allah my wife will come with her for taraweeh but till then those who r praying taraweeh will not be disturbed by my child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My siblings &amp; used go to the mosques in Saudi since we were abt 3-4yrs old since we could comprehend most instructions &amp; were able to comply fully. I was definitely more aware of  the situation when my younger cousins were growing up.. children were told that they are going to the House of Allah &amp; have to be respectful and quiet in there. If anyone misbehaved then either their dads or uncles (my father being one of them) would give them the stare and that was more enough to bring them back to good behavior. If parents failed or were unable to control, random uncle in the masjid would give the kid a piece of his mind &amp; that always worked. Unlike parents of today who are overprotective of kids, they were ok when strangers disciplined their kids as it was their own good &amp; for the good of the community. I hardly recall seeing toddlers younger than 3 in masjids (other than the two holy mosques). </p>
<p>I am not against bringing children to the mosque but those younger than 3 don&#8217;t understand what&#8217;s going completely &amp; r still getting used to behaving well. And if they see other kids running around, they will follow them. If u want to take them to masjid to pray salaah every now &amp; then it&#8217;s ok but to bring them in for taraweeh when u know very well that the kid can&#8217;t be behaved for such long periods of time is being selfish.</p>
<p>I learned my lesson the hard way&#8230; I have a daughter who is two yrs old, last year my wife was in Saudi &amp; either my mother or her mother took care of my daughter when she went for taraweeh. So this year was the 1st year we took her to taraweeh, we would keep her by our side when the prayer started but half way through the 1st rakah she was gone..usually to the water cooler to make a mess. No matter what we were not able to get it rite that nite, the next day it was the same thing but the masjid officials decided to remove the cooler due to the mess being made by these kid, my daughter being one of them. With the cooler gone, we thought we were ok now. But that wasn&#8217;t the case, by now she was friends with other toddlers and this meant running, screaming around with them. I know that my daughter is too young to understand the importance of the mosque.. to her it&#8217;s just large open space to play. I can&#8217;t make a two yr old sit in one place for two hrs, I m being impractical if think I can do that. The masjid isn&#8217;t large enough to have a room for kids, it&#8217;s a section for men &amp; another for women. We had to make the tough choice &amp; my wife decided to stay home&#8230; disturbing the prayers of 50 ppl to get the pleasure of taraweeh in masjid was a selfish act according for her &amp; rightly so. </p>
<p>Prior to ramadan, I did take her to the masjid for maghrib or isha &amp; still do so. But since the prayers are short, she&#8217;s well behaved during these prayers. If she can comprehend the importance of masjid &amp; stay behaved for 2 hours by next ramadan then insha&#8217;Allah my wife will come with her for taraweeh but till then those who r praying taraweeh will not be disturbed by my child.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly Garza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly Garza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>InshaAllah :)</description>
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		<title>By: Holly Garza</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/09/06/children-taraweeh-storm-in-a-teacup/#comment-49047</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly Garza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaam Alaikum Yes I agree some of the older women are Very set in their ways and often more rude by the yelling and reprimanding than the children themselves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaam Alaikum Yes I agree some of the older women are Very set in their ways and often more rude by the yelling and reprimanding than the children themselves</p>
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		<title>By: Holly Garza</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/09/06/children-taraweeh-storm-in-a-teacup/#comment-49046</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly Garza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very Valid point! Stay home until they understand, don&#039;t go, or only go for a few rakas. AllahuAlim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very Valid point! Stay home until they understand, don&#8217;t go, or only go for a few rakas. AllahuAlim</p>
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		<title>By: Holly Garza</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/09/06/children-taraweeh-storm-in-a-teacup/#comment-49045</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly Garza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alhamdulilah! :) 

Very good points and the fact that You STILL to this day are a Religious Practicing Muslim MashaAllah it shows the positive effect of your upbringing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alhamdulilah! :) </p>
<p>Very good points and the fact that You STILL to this day are a Religious Practicing Muslim MashaAllah it shows the positive effect of your upbringing.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly Garza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly Garza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MashaAllah a logical, easy to implement, parent, and worship post by a parent :) Very good tips InshaAllah may the parent who don&#039;t know how or where to start training their child benefit from this InshaAllah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MashaAllah a logical, easy to implement, parent, and worship post by a parent :) Very good tips InshaAllah may the parent who don&#8217;t know how or where to start training their child benefit from this InshaAllah.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly Garza</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/09/06/children-taraweeh-storm-in-a-teacup/#comment-49043</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly Garza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alhamdulilah. It&#039;s always a few who ruin it for all. InshaAllah you don&#039;t have any more problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alhamdulilah. It&#8217;s always a few who ruin it for all. InshaAllah you don&#8217;t have any more problems.</p>
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