Comments on: Recounting Memories of Ibn Jibreen – Navaid Aziz http://muslimmatters.org/2009/07/15/recounting-memories-of-ibn-jibreen-navaid-aziz/ Discourses in the Intellectual Traditions, Political Situation, and Social Ethics of Muslim Life Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:55:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Arif http://muslimmatters.org/2009/07/15/recounting-memories-of-ibn-jibreen-navaid-aziz/#comment-48450 Arif Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:01:26 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=6684#comment-48450 Just as a point of reference, Shaykh Yasir Qadhi said, "“Truly with the death of the Shaykh we have <strong>lost the last of the great giants of our era</strong>…and Allah does not remove knowledge from the chests of men, but rather through the death of scholars.” Just as a point of reference, Shaykh Yasir Qadhi said, ““Truly with the death of the Shaykh we have lost the last of the great giants of our era…and Allah does not remove knowledge from the chests of men, but rather through the death of scholars.”

]]> By: Ibn Shamsud-Deen http://muslimmatters.org/2009/07/15/recounting-memories-of-ibn-jibreen-navaid-aziz/#comment-47041 Ibn Shamsud-Deen Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:30:14 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=6684#comment-47041 Shukran.. jazaakAllaahu khair.. Shukran.. jazaakAllaahu khair..

]]> By: Mohammed http://muslimmatters.org/2009/07/15/recounting-memories-of-ibn-jibreen-navaid-aziz/#comment-47040 Mohammed Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:50:52 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=6684#comment-47040 http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/4/20/2411006/Legacy%20of%20Sheikh%20Abdullah%20Ibn%20Jibreen%20150709.mp3 http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/4/20/2411006/Legacy%20of%20Sheikh%20Abdullah%20Ibn%20Jibreen%20150709.mp3

]]> By: Hassan http://muslimmatters.org/2009/07/15/recounting-memories-of-ibn-jibreen-navaid-aziz/#comment-46847 Hassan Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:37:11 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=6684#comment-46847 Some of your questions have been answered in this khutbah by Sh Waleed: http://muslimmatters.org/2009/07/20/virtues-of-allamah-ibn-jibreen-shaykh-waleed-basyouni/ Some of your questions have been answered in this khutbah by Sh Waleed:

http://muslimmatters.org/2009/07/20/virtues-of-allamah-ibn-jibreen-shaykh-waleed-basyouni/

]]> By: Muslim http://muslimmatters.org/2009/07/15/recounting-memories-of-ibn-jibreen-navaid-aziz/#comment-46821 Muslim Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:33:58 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=6684#comment-46821 salams May Allah forgive the dead of Mumineens. the scholar is dead, may Allah forgive him. Its of no point to criticize him of what is happening in Saudi society, sole responsibilty of state lies on the head of state. there is little that can be done in SA, there are many examples of scholars speaking out against the bad and they end up in remote jail within a few hours. racism is high in SA, except a few good people, arabs in general are more racist towards muslims than the christians are towards muslims. they treat Asian workers worst than animals, spitting on them, hitting them even killing them without being brought to justice. Remember these Bedouins are the ones who pulled Rasulullah's (peace be upon him) cloth to the extent that he got marks on his neck, all just for some booty. dont expect them to treat fellow humans (except white masters) any better. salams
May Allah forgive the dead of Mumineens. the scholar is dead, may Allah forgive him. Its of no point to criticize him of what is happening in Saudi society, sole responsibilty of state lies on the head of state. there is little that can be done in SA, there are many examples of scholars speaking out against the bad and they end up in remote jail within a few hours. racism is high in SA, except a few good people, arabs in general are more racist towards muslims than the christians are towards muslims. they treat Asian workers worst than animals, spitting on them, hitting them even killing them without being brought to justice. Remember these Bedouins are the ones who pulled Rasulullah’s (peace be upon him) cloth to the extent that he got marks on his neck, all just for some booty. dont expect them to treat fellow humans (except white masters) any better.

]]> By: Abu Abdaen http://muslimmatters.org/2009/07/15/recounting-memories-of-ibn-jibreen-navaid-aziz/#comment-46744 Abu Abdaen Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:12:54 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=6684#comment-46744 KS, I will think it was a slip from Shaykh Haytham or his personal preference. However, we know that the 3 icons of the last generation were Shakhs Ibn AlBaaz, ibn AlUthaimeen and Albaani (in no particular order), then followed by the other scholars. My Shaykh, Shaykh Ibn Sulaiman, once told me that one time Shaykh Ibn Baaz was asked if there is a mujaddid of this century, he said if it was not Shaykh Albaani, then who else? Another time, Shaykh Albaani was asked by one of his students if there are issues that bothers them and he was not around, who else should they ask, he said Shaykh Ibn Baaz, they asked, and after, he said, Shaykh Ibn AlUthaimeen. There are many narrations abound from a lot of their students. We love all our scholars and we do not purify one over the other. A time like this makes it imperative to reinforce some important issues that are escaping some of us that ascribe to the dawah of Ahlus Sunnah, especially, the muslims of the west. We are faced with so many challenges that threaten our deen and by that the essence of our lives. Sometimes, we are usually hasty in dealing with these issues, and we resort to the approaches of the misguided ones but rather if we make recourse to the Ahlu Dhikr, it will be better for us. May Allaah grant them all jannatul fidaws and make us follow in their fotsteps. KS, I will think it was a slip from Shaykh Haytham or his personal preference.

However, we know that the 3 icons of the last generation were Shakhs Ibn AlBaaz, ibn AlUthaimeen and Albaani (in no particular order), then followed by the other scholars. My Shaykh, Shaykh Ibn Sulaiman, once told me that one time Shaykh Ibn Baaz was asked if there is a mujaddid of this century, he said if it was not Shaykh Albaani, then who else? Another time, Shaykh Albaani was asked by one of his students if there are issues that bothers them and he was not around, who else should they ask, he said Shaykh Ibn Baaz, they asked, and after, he said, Shaykh Ibn AlUthaimeen. There are many narrations abound from a lot of their students. We love all our scholars and we do not purify one over the other.

A time like this makes it imperative to reinforce some important issues that are escaping some of us that ascribe to the dawah of Ahlus Sunnah, especially, the muslims of the west. We are faced with so many challenges that threaten our deen and by that the essence of our lives. Sometimes, we are usually hasty in dealing with these issues, and we resort to the approaches of the misguided ones but rather if we make recourse to the Ahlu Dhikr, it will be better for us.

May Allaah grant them all jannatul fidaws and make us follow in their fotsteps.

]]> By: Abu Abdaen http://muslimmatters.org/2009/07/15/recounting-memories-of-ibn-jibreen-navaid-aziz/#comment-46740 Abu Abdaen Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:52:50 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=6684#comment-46740 Also Akhii followerofSalaf, What the shaykh did is neither exaggeration nor innovation. You are allowed too make dhikr of Allaah as much as you can, only within the confines of shariah. Pls be more open minded. Also Akhii followerofSalaf,
What the shaykh did is neither exaggeration nor innovation. You are allowed too make dhikr of Allaah as much as you can, only within the confines of shariah. Pls be more open minded.

]]> By: Abu Abdaen http://muslimmatters.org/2009/07/15/recounting-memories-of-ibn-jibreen-navaid-aziz/#comment-46737 Abu Abdaen Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:30:20 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=6684#comment-46737 Akhii, you're right. But, know that every country has its own problems to deal with, but some are worse than others. Saudi is not a perfect country, but wallaahi, even the worst dibelieving kaafir will testify to the tranquility that abound there. However, for the good treatment of people, evidences abound of the good nature of these mashaayikh towards the people around them, interceding for them on their rights and enjoining the people to do right and shun evils. These are too numeous to mention. Their writings, sermons, talks are all filled with these and even their close students report these of their actions. Unfortunately, I know that most people that ask these questions (Not saying in your own case though) are alluding to other things, such as public warning and criticism of the government, mass actions, and all the rest that we have in the western society. Know, dear brother, that we have our way, which is the way of the Salaf (And I like your nick-followerofSalaf). The knowledge and experience of the elders have shown that following this way will lead to the rectification of our affairs. We should not be hasty, rather we should persevere on this way. In addition, a lot of times the scholars do warn the scholars, albeit in private. I'll give you an example (although it relates between 2 scholars), a certain time, one of the scholars (Shaykh BAkr Abu Zayd) wrote a refutation to another scholar while some people took hold of this and published it. It really annoyed the Shaykh to the extent that he was almost cursing the culprit for creating such evil. If this will happen amongst scholars, how much more the leaders. I hope this is enough for you and us. I pray that Allaah guide us to the best understanding of the deen, for His prophet said, Whoever Allaah wants good for, He gives him the sound understanding of the deen. May he increase our love for our brothers, from amongst the scholars and the masses, and enter us into Jannah. Aaamin Akhii, you’re right. But, know that every country has its own problems to deal with, but some are worse than others. Saudi is not a perfect country, but wallaahi, even the worst dibelieving kaafir will testify to the tranquility that abound there. However, for the good treatment of people, evidences abound of the good nature of these mashaayikh towards the people around them, interceding for them on their rights and enjoining the people to do right and shun evils. These are too numeous to mention. Their writings, sermons, talks are all filled with these and even their close students report these of their actions.

Unfortunately, I know that most people that ask these questions (Not saying in your own case though) are alluding to other things, such as public warning and criticism of the government, mass actions, and all the rest that we have in the western society. Know, dear brother, that we have our way, which is the way of the Salaf (And I like your nick-followerofSalaf). The knowledge and experience of the elders have shown that following this way will lead to the rectification of our affairs. We should not be hasty, rather we should persevere on this way.

In addition, a lot of times the scholars do warn the scholars, albeit in private. I’ll give you an example (although it relates between 2 scholars), a certain time, one of the scholars (Shaykh BAkr Abu Zayd) wrote a refutation to another scholar while some people took hold of this and published it. It really annoyed the Shaykh to the extent that he was almost cursing the culprit for creating such evil. If this will happen amongst scholars, how much more the leaders.

I hope this is enough for you and us. I pray that Allaah guide us to the best understanding of the deen, for His prophet said, Whoever Allaah wants good for, He gives him the sound understanding of the deen. May he increase our love for our brothers, from amongst the scholars and the masses, and enter us into Jannah. Aaamin

]]> By: zaki hammaad http://muslimmatters.org/2009/07/15/recounting-memories-of-ibn-jibreen-navaid-aziz/#comment-46735 zaki hammaad Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:45:09 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=6684#comment-46735 I think we should stop falling in divisive topics of "who is greater"; this is a general and a loaded question. We have deep love for all the scholars of Ahlul Hadeeth. It shows the responsibility the Muslim have in raising righteous children who will one day take over the roles of leadership in knowledge. I think we should stop falling in divisive topics of “who is greater”; this is a general and a loaded question. We have deep love for all the scholars of Ahlul Hadeeth. It shows the responsibility the Muslim have in raising righteous children who will one day take over the roles of leadership in knowledge.

]]> By: MM Associates http://muslimmatters.org/2009/07/15/recounting-memories-of-ibn-jibreen-navaid-aziz/#comment-46732 MM Associates Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:18:03 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=6684#comment-46732 Dear brother, there is a time and place for everything, including criticism. The scholar just passed away and it is a bit morbid to do it now. May Allah [swt] raise Sh. Ibn Jibreen to the highest ranks in Paradise. <em>-J.Hashmi</em> Dear brother, there is a time and place for everything, including criticism. The scholar just passed away and it is a bit morbid to do it now.

May Allah [swt] raise Sh. Ibn Jibreen to the highest ranks in Paradise.

-J.Hashmi

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