Find a Job, Keep Your Beard

June 10, 2009 by Siraaj Society, Unemployment Series
68 comments Tags: beard · job interview · unemployment · Unemployment Series

When I began searching for a job back in '04, I was advised by experts that a clean-shaven face was a must for the interview. A bearded face was a job seeker's death sentence.

Now me, I follow the opinion that you leave the beard alone and just let it grow. Most people don't follow that opinion, and I'm cool with that – I'm just happy when I see something resembling a 5 o'clock shadow on a brother's face.

I point out my beard size for a simple reason – generally speaking, the longer the beard, the more difficult it is for one to find a job. The advice which follows worked for me, and insha'Allah, if you follow an opinion which prohibits shaving or trimming, this advice will benefit you.

Preparation

When I prepared myself for the interview, I did a few things:

1. Lookin' GQ: Get yourself a nice suit, clean shoes, keep your hair in place, and whatever it takes, figure out how to make your beard look neat and organized.

2. Prepare for the HR type questions: There are books with literally hundreds of questions, with tips on how to answer each of them. Review the questions, look at the objective of each question, and practice answering in your own voice with your own style of speaking as it relates to you – do not regurgitate the canned answers provided in the books. This is the equivalent of borrowing one of Shaykh Muhammad Alshareef's khutbahs on khutbah.com and saying at the khutbah, “One time, when I was in Madinah University, I…”

3. Prepare for the technical interview: Since I had technical programming questions to answer, I arranged for a brother who had been through a similar interview process quiz me for a few hours. This helped me not only answer the questions correctly, but communicate my answers clearly.

4. Prepare all other documentation / work / stationary: If there's a portfolio of work you have to put together, or special identification required, make sure you have it all ready to go. In many cases, you'll want to bring a few hard copies of your resume, and a notepad to take notes.

The Interview

When I interviewed, I was asked about the research projects I had worked on in college as well as some technical C/C++ questions. Since I had already prepared for both types of questions, this part of the interview was a breeze. That doesn't mean I knew everything – I even prepared for questions I didn't know – if I didn't know the answer to a technical question, I simply said, “That's a good question, I don't know that one, I'll have to look it up.” In one scenario, I was asked a trick question and I replied, “As far as I know, what you've asked is impossible, but if you know of a way to make that happen, I'd be happy to learn it.”

Let me say, though, that knowing the right answers aren't enough – the persona you exude has to be approachable and friendly. If you come off as being stiff, cold, or aloof, you will have already conveyed a bad first impression. The moment I greeted the first of my four interviewers, I didn't simply shake his hand and say, “Hi”. I took in my surroundings and if I was authentically curious about something while walking to the interview room, I asked or said something about it as though I was speaking to, not a close friend, but a familiar acquaintance. Friendly, but not too friendly.

And lastly, don't forget to ask questions that are important to you. I don't recommend asking questions for the sake of feigning interest.

Check out ibnabeeomar's post on Job Interview Tips for more details.

Post Interview

Once the interview is done, thank the person for their time and ask for a specific date and time you can reach them for a decision if they don't respond to you. Get home and email them another thank you, and if you liked what was offered, insert a few key points in the email to make your case one more time, putting in no more than two points which you think are relevant to what the interviewer was looking for.

Tawakkul and Ethics

Notice what I didn't add in there – a doctored resume with experience and skills you don't have.Â This isn't just a nonMuslim problem – it's a Muslim problem as well, and it needs to be addressed.

My first encounter with Muslim ethical problems in the business world was years ago when I was just out of college. As you know, with no experience, you get no job, and with no job, you get no experience, so the conundrum goes. A Muslim IT consulting firm contacted me, stating they wanted someone with my technical knowledge. After a three way call with 2 of the Muslim recruiters, it was clear they planned on embellishing on my (lack of) experience.

And believe you me, they really fibbed a massive fib. They sent me a copy of my own resume with two years of experience in a technology I had never touched, showing that I was working in California while I was in college in Indiana at the same time. These were Muslims? I called them back and told them that I'm Muslim, and I simply can't lie like this to anyone, regardless of religion (or how badly the lie was told).

Over the years, my awareness of such unethical behavior has only increased. Some of you may be aware of a technology known as SAP Business Intelligence. I had thought to train, certify, and find a job in this field (ultimately chose not to). During that time, everyone and their mom was convinced that it was simply impossible to get an SAP job without some amount of lying on the resume because apparently no one wanted newly minted trainees.

In one case, I knew of a brother who was asked what he would do with his resume to secure a job, and he simply pointed up, indicating that he was relying on Allah, after writing a truthful resume. The questioner then said to him, “No, really, what are you going to do?” The questioner is allegedly a practicing Muslim.

To all the resume and interview fudgers, both those who have done it, and those planning to do so, where is your faith in Allah? Why do you despair of Allah providing for you? Do the best that you can do from what is within your power, and leave it to Allah to take care of the rest. When Ibrahim made the call for Hajj, none of us was there to hear it, but today we read of it in the Qur'an, and billions upon billions have responded to the call, some among them multiple times. It was on Ibrahim to do what was in his power, and then to leave the rest to Allah.

Allah can take our most humble of efforts and turn it into pure gold – so when people tell you something is not practical in this day and age, or to engage in a behavior you either know is not from Islam or contradicts the way you believe it should be implemented, clear your doubts by praying istikhaara. If you've done the best you can within the parameters of the shariah, leave the rest to Allah, having full faith and confidence in your heart that Allah will give you what is best when it's best.

Also read Three Rules for dealing with Unemployment

Tags: beard · job interview · unemployment · Unemployment Series

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Tim

Brushing your beard daily will do wonders for keeping it looking neat. Mine is in the middle of the bushy phase (I haven’t been clean-shaven in some time, but I trimmed my beard down fairly short a couple months ago when my youngest daughter was in her “spit up on or grab everything” phase – you fathers out there know what I mean…) on the way to getting a good length, and the daily brushing is a lifesaver as far as keeping my beard neat. I also trim my mustache back to where it doesn’t get in the way while drinking, which helps considerably. I joke about it being a filter, but it’s a pain to keep clean when it gets in the tea all day!

Shampooing at least a few times a week doesn’t hurt either, though I found I get very little benefit from conditioning, particularly considering the hassle.

Sure, appearance DOES count, but I have found that if you can wear your beard naturally and just not call attention to it there are minimal problems. Even if, like me, you naturally tend toward the mountain man look.

Outside cultures where it’s at least somewhat acceptable to wear a beard, though, you may encounter a bit more difficulty.

http://muslimmatters.org/author/siraaj/ Siraaj

Man, I completely feel you on that children grabbing the beard issue. My 4 year-old daughter once came behind me when I was sitting on the floor with a gathering of brothers and effortlessly pulled me down on my back by standing behind me and grabbing me by my beard.

My one year old son also realized that when I tickle him, he can grab my beard for revenge, so I’ve had to learn how to tickle and protect my beard at the same time :D

Siraaj

monkeynurse

people come in all shapes and sizes. there are ways to follow the deen without compromise and still land great positions. trust in allah that he will pave the way for you.

a few more points i want to add:

1) the beard can be seen as a plus to some employers. it shows that you are dedicated to something higher and won’t compromise your ethics
2) if you feel your potential employer doesn’t believe in #1, then beef up everything else. looking GQ (i.e. decked out) is a standard in professional interviews. this way the beard is no longer the center of attention.
3) #2 additionally proves that your beard isn’t out of neglect, but is pre-meditated and done with a purpose
4) use your other skills => i love to talk and i won’t hold back during an interview. especially if you know who you will be interviewing with, plan ahead and know their interests. interviews are like playing a game. i have a few more tips for interviews, but seeing as this is a beard + interview post, i won’t bore you.

i’ll tell you from personal experience, don’t compromise on your deen for small gains in this dunya. what are you going to compromise next? salat? jumah? so what if you don’t get a job because of your beard? allah will get you a better job.

my best friends father used to be an ER doctor and would work locums shift in different ERs around the country. whenever he would do an interview and they would ask if he had any questions. he would tell them that he has 1 requirement: that they allow him several small breaks during the day for salat and that it must be written into his contract. that’s hardcore.

may allah make me and all of us muslims with hardcore iman.

http://muslimmatters.org/author/siraaj/ Siraaj

Ameen to those du’aas bro.

mirza

assalamualaikum,

almost same story. jazakumullah kheir; relieved those horrible memories while i read this revitalizing and refreshing reminder siraaj bhai.
jazakumullah kheir.

in my case, since i too did not trim my beard ( shorter than what i usually do), al hamdulillah telling the director after 7 rounds of interview that see this is not what is written on paper please if you like to take me, take me for what i am and this is what my real experience is and i came to this country few weeks ago ( i did not know these dirty tricks and business of consulting/ body shopping species existed before that); director was pleased with my performance in the interview and al Hamdulillah i got my break through; going on good though, ( not much into systems programming yet but still surviving halal and lakal hamd laka shukra ); for me i had ( still have, after reading your article on izzah its more evident now) no reputation to lose because all that is given to us is form Allaah, he will take it the way he wish and if he is giving us something, subahan Allaah.

just one suggestion, never ever compromise for your deen; if you don’t appreciate it, then who else? all izzah and rizq only belongs to Allaah.
money / pride are two spoiled qualities of corporate world. may Allaah save us from those fitna of fame and showing off. ameen.

i also know a man who happen to speak to a shaykh, in his time, to determine what portion of his salary would be unethical based on so and so number of fake experience he edited to his original profile. i can’t imagine we have this ethically unethicals among us. our fitrah tells us that something wrong we are doing, if we are doing that something wrong. but with period some get desensetized.

if above paragraph did not make sense to you, then just realize that your example is very motivating and jazakumullah kheir for sharing it; i share the same pain for the ummah,
today i received an email from weekly reminder ( which many of reader might have received) that how honesty leads to jannah and how sin is something that makes your heart feel uneasy. many more funny details to share, i will tell you in person insh Allaah sometime.

it read as follows,
Live your life in a way that if someone was to open the door on
you at any moment, you would have nothing to hide. This is true
success. Think of something that you may be ashamed people will
find out about, and take some action right now to stop doing
it.

how true,,,

barakallahu feekum,
assalamualaikum

may Allaah give us tawfik to truly sincerely be among mukhliseen wal mustaghfireena bil asahaar ( ps i don’t know what your personal dua’s are so the dua i ask is make us among those who get up in tahajjud and ask our own duas);

http://muslimmatters.org/author/siraaj/ Siraaj

Unfortunately, the issue of fabricated resumes is more common among us than I care to mention.

Siraaj

muslimsister

My experience going to a job interview and graduate school interview with hijab was very similiar. I went to 13 or 15 interviews when I graduated (after 9/11). It was sooo frustrating that I’d have the job on the phone and the offer would disappear when I showed up for the interview. Then, I must have tried every form of hijab at home to make it less obvious….finally wore it as I should for each interview. It took patience, dua and a prayer of need to get my first job. Now I still wear hijab, have my dream job, have fridays off, take the last 10 days of Ramadan off, and pray at the office with my co-workers aware that I’m offering my prayer so they do interrupt me! al-Hamdulillah. I would definitely suggest the brothers to keep at it and not lose hope…It’s hard but patience is sweet. The promise of Allah SWT is true. I would have never in my wildest dreams imagined this 6 yrs ago.
Insha-Allah you will all find your dream jobs!

http://muslimmatters.org/author/siraaj/ Siraaj

May Allah reward you for your persistence. I knew a brother whose father pressured him, telling him, “You do some interviews with the beard, and if it doesn’t work, then you must take it down.” The first few didn’t work out, and so he did what his father asked and got the job with the compromise.

I’m in the same situation as you now – I get to work Fridays from home, my work hours are flexible, and my boss is flexible on paid time off (doesn’t count sick days, or personal work to be done outside of work like fixing car, etc).

Siraaj

Miako

academic jobs, and ones where you don’t have to be public relations, are generally easier to get if you are “special” (and I meant that in many many different ways. one of my friends is in a wheelchair, for example).

just as a helpful tip for anyone looking for career advice.

Rana

Dear Sister,
Assalam Alaikom & Thank you for sharing that story,it really gave me some hope as i’m moving to US very soon and i’m totally terrified from not having the chance to find a job cuz i wear Hijab! I really dont know where to look for it, how to dress or what to mention in my CV… And -Unfortunately- what make things even much harder, that i’m not having the required support from my family, cuz i’m the only memeber who wear Hijab (Allah yehdehom), and they are trying to convince me to loose it cuz it will threaten my life and make it harder over there!
I really need to show the whole world that i can do it even much better cuz i have my Hijab on

AbdulRahman

Dude,
Awesome beard ma sha’ Allah!
http://americanmuslimawriter.blogspot.com/ AMW- BrandyAminah-Zahira

Masha’Allah I applaud all you brothers for keeping your beards and striving for the sake of Allah. And for the sisters who do the same wearing hijab.

Sadly here in UAE and when I lived in lebanon many poeple belive you will never get a job unless you shave it down to a mear shadow instead of a long beard AND fib all over your resume. They get business owned BY THE FAMILY to verify that someone had worked fo them for years when it was NOT true. Sad.

May Allah reward those who are striving hard. Amin.
mirza

did i say your beard is super cool mash Allaah, an inspiration for self and many who wish to follow.

i hope not shaking hand with opposite sex interviewer while politely putting forth your reason firmly, can do wonders ( in my case i was changed from my project, al Hamdulillah rabbil ‘alameen, only to go on better projects :)

may Allaah guide who seek guidance and like to see (perceive) his signs. ameen.

jazakumullah kheir for the article siraaj bhai. you never seize to amaze me, mash Allaah, with the sheer clarity of expression(s).
Troubled?

Assalamualaikum wa Rahmatullah,

MashaAllah, may Allah bless you, that was very good advice and something to definitely to think about.

….its funny that the incident relates to Muslim dress, now, I’m actually going through a slightly awkward phase in my life and if you can advice, actually if any brothers or sisters can advice I’ll be very grateful.

Okay you mentioned, beard while at an interview, emmmm how about Niqaab while at a summer placement? To cut the story short, I’m a uni student doing my masters in the UK, and I got my summer placement only it was all via online, so I’ve never been interviewed but I do have an open day to attend at the end of this month where all the students hired for summer placement will be mixing etc. They want smart dress. No one I know has ever been in my position in this specific subject area, so, to say the least I’m in need of some advice.

They wont speak to you say via the phone, if you have any queries you need to email them.

Hmmm….any ideas?

http://muslimmatters.org/author/amatullah Amatullah

Sister, try emailing them and letting them know of your religion and your dress code. That has worked in the past alhamdulillah.
http://muslimmatters.org/author/siraaj/ Siraaj

Sister Amatullah’s advice is great – I used it recently for a time management seminar with a female instructor. I found out in advance the instructor’s gender, and then wrote an email introducing myself, writing a quick line about what in the seminar I was looking forward to, and then explained that I am an “Orthodox Practitioner the Islamic Faith”, and so didn’t shake hands with members of the opposite gender.

I went on to acknowledge that I understand the behavior is different or strange, and simply wanted to head off any potentially embarrassing situations. She replied back no problem, and during the seminar, she was excellent in her behavior towards me during class.

Siraaj

Miako

as a non-muslim, I am honestly bewildered. how is not shaking hands so weird? many countries don’t do it, anyhow! (also, do you have some form of appropriate greeting? is it always merely verbal? little cat is curious.)

http://muslimmatters.org/author/siraaj/ Siraaj

Well, I think not shaking hands isn’t so weird, but if someone initiates, and you flat out refuse, it comes off as a low level form of rejection. Add to that that this is limited to inter-gender handshaking, and now it becomes an issue of sexism, women’s rights, etc.

I’m not aware of any hard and fast rules for greeting. I’m good with a simple, “Hi, how’s it going?” :D

Siraaj

Norma Loquendi

I am a Canadian woman of Saxon & Nordic descent who HATES shaking hands – I despise touching strangers – and as an atheist I have no religious excuses for not responding to another’s outstretched hand. When people do try to shake my hand I get past it by pointing out, with a smile, that I’d rather not risk transferring my cold germs. Whether or not I actually have a cold, it’s always the truth that there’s a risk of transferring potentially infectious bacteria through touching people, and I find that very few people will be insulted by being told I don’t want to make them sick.

Besides, it’s a convention that goes back to the days when we went around bristling with weaponry – we invented the handshake to demonstrate that we weren’t going to stab the other guy, and also to make sure we could keep a potential opponent under some kind of control until we could check out where HIS weapons were. I always think that if there’s no logical reason to keep a tradition or convention it should be abandoned, and hand shaking – especially in these days of antibiotic resistant super viruses – is just a stupid holdover that can’t be justified by any logic.

So thank you for NOT shaking hands, and please don’t any of you feel you have to take up this regressive and pointless habit just because many of us still feel compelled to do it. A genuine smile and a gentle demurral, like doing people the courtesy of letting them know the reason for your refusal to shake, is a whole lot better way to greet a person.
http://muslimmatters.org amad

Norma, that’s a perspective I have never heard before… thanks for sharing!

Abd- Allah

If it helps, I consider niqab as smart dress.
bluebird

Assalamu Alaykum sister! I found your story very very inspiring and touching!! How did your summer placement go with niqaab?!! MAY ALLAH GRANT YOU SUCCESS IN THIS LIFE AND THE HEREAFTER AMEEN <3

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http://www.mujahideenryder.net MR

I think most tech jobs nowadays skip the HR interview and go straight to the developer interview. My job interview was fairly easy. I was given a project to build out. I did it with ease and emailed it in. A few days later the HR person was asking me when can I start. Alhamdulillah, still working at the same company and its amazing here.

Younger tech companies are very muslim-friendly, which is probably due to the fact that the majority of web/software developers are atheists.
Hassan

Hmm, I think you are not aware of our history brother. Let me show you pictures of our ancestors (in geekness and technology):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Ken_n_dennis.jpg

(Ken Thompson, Dennis Ritchie Unix and C creators)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/James_Gosling_2005.jpg

(James Gosling, java creator)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Steve_Jobs.jpg

(Steve Jobs, apple guy)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Stevewozniak.jpg

(Steve Wozniak, apple co creator)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5e/Microsoft-Staff-1978.jpg

(Microsoft staff photo from December 7, 1978)

http://www.mujahideenryder.net MR

LOL

Nerds FTW!
monkeynurse

that’s hilarious!
http://muslimmatters.org/about/mm-associates/#SF Sadaf

Your contribution of links to these pictures is very effective! It will counter the argument which most Muslim skeptics put forward, that a man can not progress in the corporate world in US especially, if he has a long beard.
Jazak Allahu khairan.

faatimah

Nicely done.
http://www.abuhafsa.com Abu Hafsa

JazakAllah Br. Siraj. Your experience echos mine almost verbatim. In college, no experience, contacted by so called ‘IT Consultants’, beefing up the resume, me saying ‘No’ etc etc. It’s all very much the same. But Alhamdulillah I was fortunate to land a job even before my final semester began through campus recruitment.

May Allah grant us all the tawfeeq and yaqeen in our hearts to be steadfast on our deen.
Shirtman

Again, I think the entire Muslim Ummah has bigger problems then beards, cheeseburgers, dress code, shaking women’s/ men’s hands and days of Ramadan/Eid.

Best,

SM

http://muslimmatters.org/author/siraaj/ Siraaj

The Ummah certainly has bigger problems to contend with. I doubt anyone would want to compare the importance of the beard vs the importance of salaah, or the situation in ghazzah.

On the other hand, if the Creator of the heavens and earth made sure that a certain matter was clarified for us through His Messenger, then that matter by default is still important.

If we were to go back and look at the context in which the discussion of the beard took place, you would find that the circumstances surrounding the Muslims at that time were no less grave, yet the matter, among others some would deem “less important” was still covered.

Finally, please note that this post is not advocating a position. It states very clearly all opinions are welcome and accepted, and if you believe you must maintain some form of beard, here’s some help in removing the dichotomy of, “Either I have to be religious, or I have to live practically in the ‘real world’” and changing it to, “I can be both religious and live practically in the real world.”

I personally believe we can save scholars a lot of time in fatwa dispensing by simply finding creative, proactive, and practical solutions to the problems we face.

Siraaj

Jeremiah

Brother Siraaj,

JazakAllahu khairan for the way you responded to this comment. Very nice, mashaAllah.

Jeremiah

Farhan

I worked in Corporate America, dealing with the CFO and CEO of the company on a regular basis, for 2 and a half years with a beard I just let go. Keep in mind, I spent 20 minutes minimum each morning making it straight and all. But, I only trimmed the mustache.

My trick was this: You know how if you get your hair wet, and then lay down, once it dries, it’ll be somewhat firm in that position? Likewise, if you get your beard wet, straighten it out, and let it dry while forced into a certain position, it’ll remain that way throughout the day. I did it every single morning.

(I also used to use a straightening Iron. I know….)

http://muslimmatters.org/author/siraaj/ Siraaj

I use a circular brush with close teeth and blow dry on HOT (cold or medium heat always goofs up).

Siraaj

Tim

I skip the blow drying (it leads to beard frizzies and those make me look ENTIRELY too much like some sort of overgrown Ewok, and that’s never a good thing; my nickname in Basic in the Air Force was Chewbacca as it is…) but brush it thoroughly after a quick towel dry. It’s still damp enough that it helps it stay in place once dry. I use a brush similar to one of my wife’s hairbrushes – a broad brush with medium-spaced bristles with the little nubs on the end. It helps wrangle the hairs and feels pretty darn good on the face to boot. The way my beard is, if the brush (or comb, for that matter) has bristles too closely-spaced my whole beard starts to list to port.

I suppose there could be entrepreneurial space for more dedicated beard-care products… I sure feel under-served in the health and beauty section of the local Wal-Mart and Safeway.

Shirtman

Thanks Siraaj,

Interestingly enough, everything was covered and was important. But all of these things have already been conveyed in some form. I feel MM should stop these posts, I know you put time into this and people will benefit, but if we are going to suceed again and be prosperous we need to work on the important things first.

Just my 2 cents.

SM

http://muslimmatters.org/author/ibnabeeomar/ ibnabeeomar

this sounds like a very practical, moving-forward kind of attitude, but in all reality i think it creates stagnation.

how do you define what is important, and at what point do other issues get addressed? for example, should all muslims ignore any subject other than the evils of ribaa until x% of muslims are no longer involved in ribaa?

no matter what subject you come up with, someone will find something more ‘important’ or more ‘pressing’ and you’re left sitting there trying to figure out what to address.

islam’s a complete way of life, its not for us to ignore one aspect over another. i agree with putting things in their proper place, however, i feel its a bit negative to take this attitude (ironically, you yourself have posted comments criticizing MM before for being “critical” of those who are trying to be positive). if posts like this help someone struggling with these issues, what’s the beef? sometimes conquering a “smaller” issue helps give motivation to tackle bigger ones as well, Allahu Alam.

mirza

ameen to the dua’s made.

assalamualaikum,

exactly ibnabeeomer ! what do you think is important in day to day life may not be important for others. since we are faced with these situations on daily basis i.e. not to look at , not to speak without a valid reason, to the non mahram, not shaking hand to opposite sex,

none of our actions are acceptable to Allaah unless they are done with ikhlaas and on conformity of the sunnah. in today’s world we have to device new ways of implementing and maintaining that sunnah of our beloved rasul Allaah, sal Allaahu alayhi wa sallam. as shaykh yasir taught us, where there is a will , there is a way. so we need that conscious will to obey Allaah no matter what. akhi its about how we are able to get to jannah and we don’t know which of our deed will be at all acceptable to Allaah, so why not try it instead of saying important things; actually its a great thing that you can implement that important thing yourself, and if you need any help let us know we will be happy to help you insh Allaah.

please take expert opinion from shuyookh and most importantly fear Allaah alone ( as He should be feared)

ps once my boss asked me to give ride ( out of his convinience) everyday to a female contractor to office (*Y^&*^**&^&^%^&*) i was like, i can’t do it. i was polite in refusing it but in the back of my mind i was like i wouldn’t give those to my cousin for sake of personal modesty and her respect and because Allaah said so.

pps i recently observed a inter faith discussion in an university ( actually it was more of a personal belief monologue) but the way the person representing christian faith was repeating that bible says this and i believe it, before quoting anything. just imagine his faith and rhetoric, that makes a different effect on people than regular monologue.

each one of us will and are facing our own tests. issue is how do we handle them. those elite 70000 people who will go to jannah without questioning insh Allaah will be humans and not angels without imperfections. they will have their situations to deal with so as we; to one his/her own.

i also remember of seeing a video recently where a man actually said to have lived bible(s) for an year. ( i think it was on haytham’s fb, i am not sure), can’t we try living qur’an ? btw, nouman ali khan, hafidhahullah, has a very interesting lecture on implementing qur’an in our daily lives. google it , if you like.

ppps last night i actually wrote 70 excuses for a person who did a bad thing to me and drafted my response for thinking ill of me. and i was pleasantly surprised to see the amazing effect of this sunnah of giving people their excuses that i actually ended up forgiving the person lovingly. subahan Allaah.

http://verbage.wordpress.com Marya

I can’t find the Nouman Ali Khan video, do you have the link?

UmmHurairah

http://www.halaltube.com/nouman-ali-khan-quran-daily-life

ny

Mashallah- I never knew of the dedication that gos into a beard , so I commend the brothers for sticking it through, and by the sounds of it, some of them have a better hair care regime then us ladies!

I’d be curios to know how brothers who keep the sunnah of wearing their trousers above their ankles, find working in corporate america/europe? Unlike the beard, which non-muslims might associate with extremism etc, I can imagine the look of a suited man with ankle swingers looking…well…a little odd?
imz

I’d be curios to know how brothers who keep the sunnah of wearing their trousers above their ankles, find working in corporate america/europe? Unlike the beard, which non-muslims might associate with extremism etc, I can imagine the look of a suited man with ankle swingers looking…well…a little odd?

Yh…..iam sure there are some stories out there

http://muslimmatters.org/author/ibnabeeomar/ ibnabeeomar

you obviously didnt see these :)

http://muslimmatters.org/2008/02/23/rolled-up-couture/

http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/16/rolled-up-couture-take-2-the-wall-street-journal/

B

On the topic of hand shaking, generally in the US, people shake hands during introduction, and it never happens again. I have noticed that women don’t extend their hands if you place your hand on your stomach, I think they get the hint that you are “reserved”. It works for me a lot, but not always. . .
B

Another idea I had, but never tried yet, was to pull this http://image.orientaltrading.com/otcimg/39_1509.jpg out of your front pocket if a woman extends her hand, and, actually, shake hands!

Abd- Allah

lol
well once you try it, let us know how it goes!
http://muslimmatters.org/author/amatullah Amatullah

lol that’s too funny.
muslimsister

lol once you try that the lady will definitely never forget you. ;)

http://muslimmatters.org/about/mm-associates/#SF Sadaf

Bismillah
Brother Siraaj – you have done a great favor to the younger men of the Muslim Ummah by writing this post. I think it’s very beneficial and much needed. I also agree with the “let it grow” opinion regarding beards. My husband has heard many things regarding his generous beard e.g. when he went and sat at a table occupied by men at my friend’s wedding reception, he was asked, “Are you from Al-Qaeda?”.
Alhamdulillah, it’s a tough decision to keep and maintain a long beard, and sometimes even tougher to smile in response to, and jokingly laugh off, such comments. Mind you, sometimes the people who make the most insulting comments about beards are Muslims themselves.
I commend any brother who maintains such a beard in the West. May Allah grant all of you the company of the Prophet (peace be upon him), whom you are struggling to emulate, in Al-Firdaus in the Akhirah. Ameen.
I think readers who are undermining the importance of articles pertaining to the beard need to fear Allah more, and cooperate more in Al-Birr and Taqwa.
Allah knows best.

Habeeb

Mind you, sometimes the people who make the most insulting comments about beards are Muslims themselves.

I agree 100%

Abd- Allah

and sometimes, those people are your own family as well…

volleybeard

I’ve been threatened to be shaven while I sleep. Fortunately I’ve had hardcore training and learned to sleep with one eye open.

man i’m so tired…lool

http://verbage.wordpress.com Marya

I’ve been placed in the extremely awkward position of editing the personal statements/resumes of Muslims who have lied. I always, always stress that I will not facilitate an “embellished” product, and often take out the lies all together. However, sometimes the people are so adamant you can’t do anything :/

The interesting this is that the personal statements/resumes that are completely honest tend to be the ones which have the most baraka, and the individuals usually end up in amazing places. :)

May Allah subhanahu wa ta`ala make it easy on all of those searching for jobs and economic security during these tough times. Ameen.
mirza

subahan Allaah, sometimes i think post 911 if a person is reviving the sunnah of beard in corporate culture, i think many ( not all interviewer ) would regard the person internally as a confident person who defies the norm of people keeping aside the faith. of course the subject matter and individual substance they would judge in the interview itself and might as well keep as well; don’t we think from their perspective, some may even think that, since they know generally muslims keep beards, and you are doing so, if you are not loyal to your faith, how can be you ( really ) honest to your job?

regardless , i don’t regret a bit repeating siraaj bhai’s punch line, ‘for religious reason, i cannot shake hand with you’ got me transfer of finally new project today :) jazakumullah kheir, you are an inspiration today in many ways… al Hamdulillah.

again our main aim is only and only to please Allaah t’ala through our deeds and intentions.

assalamualaikum
http://muslimmatters.org/author/amad/ Amad

Here’s an interesting google ad to go along with the post:

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Anyone have crooked beard problem?
UmmeAmmaarah

JazakAllahu khair brother for this absolutely lovely article. May Allah Subhaanahu wa Ta’Ala strengthen out tawakkul in Him.
one favor please: please write one article about how using office stationery, internet, copy machines, etc., for personal purposes is anti-taqwa (like in the wonderful story of Umar RadhiAllaahu anhu)
http://ittihaad.com Eid Farha

JazakAllahu Khayr for the beneficial article……

What advice can you provide us with avoiding shaking the hands of women who are interviewing you?

http://muslimbestlife.com/blog Siraaj Muhammad

Salaam alaykum ‘Eid,

1. If you know you have a female interviewer, you can email her directly and explain your situation to her.
2. If you don’t know, call up and find out who it is, and what their contact info is, and let them know.
3. If the circumstance is such that you can’t do that, then do the following:

a. Imagine the situation in your mind that some random nonMuslim woman is trying to shake your hand (business interview, meeting you for the first time, doctor’s appt, etc). Now imagine and rehearse the answer you give her.

b. The answer should be done kindly, courteously, and I do the malaysian / indonesian thing – I put my hand to my heart and say, “I’m sorry, for religious reasons, I don’t shake hands with members of the opposite gender, but it’s good to meet you.” I may even nod my head.

I did this, by the way, at a funeral of nonMuslims where every woman was trying to shake my hand because of my father-in-law’s passing. It helps if you “look” muslim (bearded in my case, hijaabified in a woman’s case) because they can already see something different about you, so they can make the leap more easily in their minds.

Siraaj

Anonymous

Last part was very true. Sometimes people will put their hand out even when you are wearing a hijab or have a beard, but when you tell them they already know why(basically they knew the explanation was coming), so it’s a lot easier.
I remember I went to the doctor’s once, and they had to bring in another doctor to speak to me, and it was a male so when he put his hand out I started to tell him but he took it back and stopped me and already said he knew, however sometimes they just want to do it out of courtesy. InshaAllah you deal with mostly these types of people!

faraj

Subhan’Allah! Thanks for the great article…. what a blessing from Allah (swt) to bestow you guys with full beard…an opportunity to emulate Rassulu’Allah (saw) and get even closer to his sunnah. Isn’t that great?….. In my case nothing grows! :( but i can’t complain alhamdulillah…jazakhallah khair once again and keep it up yo!

May Allah make us among those who look up to Muhammad (saw). Ameen.
Shirtman

Being positive is fine, but I have again and again posted that we need to focus on more important issues. This is one of the downfalls of the Muslims in Andalusia, focusing on minor issues and broadcasting them. The Muslim country eventually collapsed, let’s learn the lessons of the ones who have make the mistakes, life’s too short.

http://muslimmatters.org/author/siraaj/ Siraaj

Focusing on minor issues to the detriment of others would be a problem – no one is suggesting that, and I would venture if you were to count the number of articles MM has run on the beard or other “minor” issues vs big issues, you’d find it to be less than 1% of the articles.

Having said that, this is an issue for Muslims, people do have questions about this, and for those who do, here’s a resource. For those who don’t, the are other articles.

Siraaj

Sandy

Brother Siraaj,

I live in Northern VA and although the Muslim population here is quite big I have to say that outside of the mosque my husband is the about the only brother I ever see with a beard, a long one at that . Even some of the Imams are clean shaven . Since we have moved here my husband has had a tough time with jobs so I was hopping you could contact me directly so I can explain a little more and you can maybe talk to him because I see him loosing hope in himself and becoming depressed. i think that hearing something positive from a brother who also believes in just letting it grow will make a difference.

jezzak Allah kher,

Sandy
sandcb@aol.com

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Sa’ad

Assalumalaykum all,

Hope we all in the best of states and iman. I just came across this blog and learnt alot from it. Alhamdulillah, I have an interview coming up and was wondering how they would react to my beard as all my family have been trying and failing to convince me to trim it. My interview is for a masters in Embedded systems, was just wondering if anyone could provide me with some technical questions that could come up?

Jazaakum Allahu Khayran

http://muslimbestlife.com/blog Siraaj

If you can wow them with your academic prowess, your beard is a non-factor. If you don’t, everyone will use your beard as a scapegoat.

Siraaj

William

Hi.
Keep your beard! I’m not of your faith; but I feverently support the law that states that employers can’t discriminate on the basis of religion and that is part of your religion so stand your ground. Project yourself with confidence and let your naturally friendly and decent personality show through and it shouldn’t matter. If it does then the odds are this is an employer that you won’t want to work for anyway. Take it from an agnostic American working class hippie:) Employers that are that stringent in wanting that much control over an individual tend to have high turn over for a reason and you’re probably better off looking elsewhere. If Doctors can wear a beard in surgery you should be able to wear one at a desk. Just like the tie; it’s a part of the “uniform” imposed by social convention and doesn’t have anything to do with the work. Peace.

Siraaj

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