Comments on: The Doha Debates: An Insider’s Perspective (Yasir Qadhi, Asra Nomani & Women’s Freedom to Marry) http://muslimmatters.org/2009/05/26/the-doha-debates-an-insider%e2%80%99s-perspective-yasir-qadhi-asra-nomani-womens-freedom-to-marry/ Discourses in the Intellectual Traditions, Political Situation, and Social Ethics of Muslim Life Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:30:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Loga http://muslimmatters.org/2009/05/26/the-doha-debates-an-insider%e2%80%99s-perspective-yasir-qadhi-asra-nomani-womens-freedom-to-marry/#comment-60813 Loga Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:20:16 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=5786#comment-60813 Have you seen this commentary on Asra’s book: http://loga-abdullah.blogspot.com/2010/03/asra-nomani-standing-alone-in-mecca.html I’d be interested to hear all your thoughts on it. Have you seen this commentary on Asra’s book:

http://loga-abdullah.blogspot.com/2010/03/asra-nomani-standing-alone-in-mecca.html

I’d be interested to hear all your thoughts on it.

]]> By: mirza http://muslimmatters.org/2009/05/26/the-doha-debates-an-insider%e2%80%99s-perspective-yasir-qadhi-asra-nomani-womens-freedom-to-marry/#comment-59378 mirza Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:55:16 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=5786#comment-59378 you write whole like me brother, but i know you are not me. :) Assalamualaikum you write whole like me brother, but i know you are not me. :)
Assalamualaikum

]]> By: Faqir http://muslimmatters.org/2009/05/26/the-doha-debates-an-insider%e2%80%99s-perspective-yasir-qadhi-asra-nomani-womens-freedom-to-marry/#comment-59376 Faqir Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:52:28 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=5786#comment-59376 LOL Sheikh Yasir you did a great job of not getting PISSED. I dont have that kind of patience that you portrayed. You were awesome! And props for not tossing your notebook at the other side ;) LOL Sheikh Yasir you did a great job of not getting PISSED. I dont have that kind of patience that you portrayed. You were awesome! And props for not tossing your notebook at the other side ;)

]]> By: Muminah http://muslimmatters.org/2009/05/26/the-doha-debates-an-insider%e2%80%99s-perspective-yasir-qadhi-asra-nomani-womens-freedom-to-marry/#comment-57911 Muminah Tue, 26 Jan 2010 05:31:38 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=5786#comment-57911 I downloaded it, watched it. I can't believe I sat through the whole 45 minutes (i think) of it. It was horrible. The whole motion. It was frustrating, and the whole rule is known that muslim women cant marry non muslim men...it was like they were arguing over something which had already been written, the law cannot be changed. and then the muslim side that was against the motion looked like they were the bad people and all that. i think this is probably the only way they get people watching their debates. I downloaded it, watched it. I can’t believe I sat through the whole 45 minutes (i think) of it.
It was horrible.
The whole motion.
It was frustrating, and the whole rule is known that muslim women cant marry non muslim men…it was like they were arguing over something which had already been written, the law cannot be changed.
and then the muslim side that was against the motion looked like they were the bad people and all that.

i think this is probably the only way they get people watching their debates.

]]> By: faheem http://muslimmatters.org/2009/05/26/the-doha-debates-an-insider%e2%80%99s-perspective-yasir-qadhi-asra-nomani-womens-freedom-to-marry/#comment-57867 faheem Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:51:01 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=5786#comment-57867 salam o alekum ya sheikh!!!!! i saw the debate and think u did a fantastic job....i relly love to listen to u and one of ur brother imam suhaib webb... :).wha i personally believe that Asra Nomani was taking benifit of dubious question.she was mixing the islamic laws and cultural problems and she keep bring more rights of woman in islam.but never ever in the whole debate clearly and specifically talked about the main topic of '' woman marrying a non mulsim''. yes islam allows muslim woman to make decission about who to marry and not to but within limits of islam. i think one of the reson i dunno whether it is right or wrong but islam stops muslim woman to marry non muslim man because of childeren.i think naturally childeren have religion of dad.if muslim woman marry a non muslim man the childeren will carry a religion of dad,therefore childeren will be non muslim.on the other hand if muslim man marry non muslim woman then childeren still would carry a muslim religion.i think islam protects islamic identity. But Ya Sheikh i really love listening and learning from u and imam Suhaib Webb.. may allah protect u guys bless u increase ur eman and may use for wha he thinks is the best of u and all of us... jazak allah... fiaman allah salam o alekum ya sheikh!!!!!
i saw the debate and think u did a fantastic job….i relly love to listen to u and one of ur brother imam suhaib webb… :).wha i personally believe that Asra Nomani was taking benifit of dubious question.she was mixing the islamic laws and cultural problems and she keep bring more rights of woman in islam.but never ever in the whole debate clearly and specifically talked about the main topic of ” woman marrying a non mulsim”.
yes islam allows muslim woman to make decission about who to marry and not to but within limits of islam.
i think one of the reson i dunno whether it is right or wrong but islam stops muslim woman to marry non muslim man because of childeren.i think naturally childeren have religion of dad.if muslim woman marry a non muslim man the childeren will carry a religion of dad,therefore childeren will be non muslim.on the other hand if muslim man marry non muslim woman then childeren still would carry a muslim religion.i think islam protects islamic identity.
But Ya Sheikh i really love listening and learning from u and imam Suhaib Webb.. may allah protect u guys bless u increase ur eman and may use for wha he thinks is the best of u and all of us…
jazak allah…
fiaman allah

]]> By: hendersoncnc http://muslimmatters.org/2009/05/26/the-doha-debates-an-insider%e2%80%99s-perspective-yasir-qadhi-asra-nomani-womens-freedom-to-marry/#comment-54286 hendersoncnc Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:28:17 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=5786#comment-54286 ihear yall saying i wouldve done that or he shouldve done this..but going to 3 countries and then coming on this show and only getting a few seconds to speak each time..idont think he couldve done better…but far the marraige things goes isnt there an ayat where allah says not to marry women to the kuffar??? or am i crazy??? ihear yall saying i wouldve done that or he shouldve done this..but going to 3 countries and then coming on this show and only getting a few seconds to speak each time..idont think he couldve done better…but far the marraige things goes isnt there an ayat where allah says not to marry women to the kuffar???

or am i crazy???

]]> By: Loga http://muslimmatters.org/2009/05/26/the-doha-debates-an-insider%e2%80%99s-perspective-yasir-qadhi-asra-nomani-womens-freedom-to-marry/#comment-53918 Loga Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:21:10 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=5786#comment-53918 BarakAllah fiikum. jazakAllah khier for the post. Interesting in that field of newly popular and western-promoted peoples I wrote about Hirsi Ali's books, which are full of untruths. Unfortunately this book is a best seller so inshaAllah read and spread that paper around. If you have feedback on it, please send in as well. The site linked above (my name) will direct you there. Looking forward to your input, dawah and jazakAllah khier. salaam alaykum. BarakAllah fiikum.

jazakAllah khier for the post. Interesting in that field of newly popular and western-promoted peoples I wrote about Hirsi Ali’s books, which are full of untruths. Unfortunately this book is a best seller so inshaAllah read and spread that paper around. If you have feedback on it, please send in as well. The site linked above (my name) will direct you there. Looking forward to your input, dawah and jazakAllah khier.

salaam alaykum.

]]> By: Camblogger http://muslimmatters.org/2009/05/26/the-doha-debates-an-insider%e2%80%99s-perspective-yasir-qadhi-asra-nomani-womens-freedom-to-marry/#comment-53845 Camblogger Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:41:23 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=5786#comment-53845 You're debate stance has allowed me to question you're fundamental beliefs about women, or specifically Muslim women. I understand your argument that says with the work Muslim means women are void of certain freedoms. However how can you say that you want to support Muslim woman’s legitimate rights? I personally disagree with the treatment of women however technically your argument was, in my opinion, a very sound one. I agree with The Ghazzali Blogger about defining Muslim for the public. The Ghazzali Blogger makes a very interesting point that despite sin, a Muslim is a still a Muslim. Just because a Muslim man or woman breaks the law, they are still a Muslim. I understand you’re approach because including this would create holes in your argument. Technically speaking, you were very conscious of how you delivered your argument as well as responded to the other speakers. I believe the crucial thing to remember is that the fundamental wording of the issues is contradictory in actuality. Being a Muslim woman by religious definition means that you are to marry a Muslim Man and certainly never a woman. I applaud your intelligence however question certain fundamental issues. You’re debate stance has allowed me to question you’re fundamental beliefs about women, or specifically Muslim women. I understand your argument that says with the work Muslim means women are void of certain freedoms. However how can you say that you want to support Muslim woman’s legitimate rights? I personally disagree with the treatment of women however technically your argument was, in my opinion, a very sound one.

I agree with The Ghazzali Blogger about defining Muslim for the public. The Ghazzali Blogger makes a very interesting point that despite sin, a Muslim is a still a Muslim. Just because a Muslim man or woman breaks the law, they are still a Muslim. I understand you’re approach because including this would create holes in your argument. Technically speaking, you were very conscious of how you delivered your argument as well as responded to the other speakers. I believe the crucial thing to remember is that the fundamental wording of the issues is contradictory in actuality. Being a Muslim woman by religious definition means that you are to marry a Muslim Man and certainly never a woman. I applaud your intelligence however question certain fundamental issues.

]]> By: faraz http://muslimmatters.org/2009/05/26/the-doha-debates-an-insider%e2%80%99s-perspective-yasir-qadhi-asra-nomani-womens-freedom-to-marry/#comment-53410 faraz Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:26:37 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=5786#comment-53410 Assalaamalaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatahu, I saw the DD video and felt bad about the fact that you weren't given enough time to say what you had to,otherwise it would have been more interesting, as we would have heard more from you. I found Asra and Habash to be very irritating,ignorant and unaware of the basics of islam. You did a very good job in the amount of time that you had and as it was about "muslim","women" and "freedom" ,it had to be difficult for a muslim to convince the people who are highly influenced by the western culture and the media, about the difference between the islamic laws and the cultural norms. And as it has become a day to day practise of people to label the muslims who actually follow the quran and the sunnah properly,as "wahabis","extremists" etc. it is a challenge in itself to convey the message of the true teachings of islam to such people who have been filled with hatred towards the practising muslims.You have always done a great job,as it is the intention that matters more than the deed itself. Keep up the good work. JazaakAllah Khair brother. Assalaamalaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatahu,
I saw the DD video and felt bad about the fact that you weren’t given enough time to say what you had to,otherwise it would have been more interesting, as we would have heard more from you.
I found Asra and Habash to be very irritating,ignorant and unaware of the basics of islam.
You did a very good job in the amount of time that you had and as it was about “muslim”,”women” and “freedom” ,it had to be difficult for a muslim to convince the people who are highly influenced by the western culture and the media, about the difference between the islamic laws and the cultural norms.
And as it has become a day to day practise of people to label the muslims who actually follow the quran and the sunnah properly,as “wahabis”,”extremists” etc. it is a challenge in itself to convey the message of the true teachings of islam to such people who have been filled with hatred towards the practising muslims.You have always done a great job,as it is the intention that matters more than the deed itself.
Keep up the good work.
JazaakAllah Khair brother.

]]> By: AB828 http://muslimmatters.org/2009/05/26/the-doha-debates-an-insider%e2%80%99s-perspective-yasir-qadhi-asra-nomani-womens-freedom-to-marry/#comment-48749 AB828 Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:21:21 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=5786#comment-48749 Assalamu Alaikum, I read this a few months back, but just watched the actual video. Normally, I am a calm and reasonable person, but this Asra woman is making me SO extremely angry. Her "arguments" are anything but intellectual, she has no idea what she is talking about, and her tone is just condescending and pitying. As a Muslim woman, I do NOT feel oppressed, and do not need her pity. I thought Sheikh Yasir did the best of all of them, and came off as the most intellectual. Although the motion was obviously messed up and could have been worded differently, he did a great job arguing against it, yet showing that women should have freedom. The Syrian guy was just confused and shouldn't have even been there. I think he badly wanted to switch over to the other side and get away from that creepy woman. I really wish I had been there so I could use my and my family's personal experiences to show what kind of freedom is and should be allowed, since that seemed to be the trend instead of actual debating (Except Sheikh Yasir). Either way, I think everyone, including the audience agrees that women should have freedom within boundaries. The only one REALLY for the motion, in its entirety, is Asra. Assalamu Alaikum,

I read this a few months back, but just watched the actual video.

Normally, I am a calm and reasonable person, but this Asra woman is making me SO extremely angry. Her “arguments” are anything but intellectual, she has no idea what she is talking about, and her tone is just condescending and pitying. As a Muslim woman, I do NOT feel oppressed, and do not need her pity.

I thought Sheikh Yasir did the best of all of them, and came off as the most intellectual. Although the motion was obviously messed up and could have been worded differently, he did a great job arguing against it, yet showing that women should have freedom.

The Syrian guy was just confused and shouldn’t have even been there. I think he badly wanted to switch over to the other side and get away from that creepy woman.

I really wish I had been there so I could use my and my family’s personal experiences to show what kind of freedom is and should be allowed, since that seemed to be the trend instead of actual debating (Except Sheikh Yasir).

Either way, I think everyone, including the audience agrees that women should have freedom within boundaries. The only one REALLY for the motion, in its entirety, is Asra.

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