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		<title>By: SALAMI TUNDE IDRIS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SALAMI TUNDE IDRIS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HOW IS WORK AND YOUR FAMILY, I PRAY THAT THE GUIDIAN AND MERCY OF ALLAH BE WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
 
FIRST I WANT YOU TO READ MY LETTER VERY CAREFULLY AND UNDERSTAND IT VERY WELL BECAUSE IT;S ALLAH  ALLAH FAVOUR FOR YOU.
 
AM SENDING THIS MAIL TO YOU REGARDING THE FORMAL PRESIDENT SON ABDUL LATEEF OBASANGO, I GOT TO MEET HIM THROUGH MY ELDER BROTHER WHEN WILL WENT TO ABUJA FOR MUSLIM CONGRESS FORUM LAST MONTH, AFTER THEN HE HAS ME TO SEE HIM THAT HE HAS A BUSINESS TO DISCUSE WHITH ME, BECAUSE MY BROTHER TOLD HIM THAT AM GOOD IN COMPUTER .
ON THE 7TH OF MARCH 2009 HE TOLD ME THAT HIS FATHER, THE FORMAL PRESIDENT DEPOSITED THE SUM OF {$32,470,000 DOLLARS} IN A BANK CALL {ZENITH BANK NIG PLC} WITH THE FORMAL PRESIDENT SON NAME {ABDUL LATEEF OBASANGO} AND THE FORMAL PRESIDENT SON HAS MEET WITH THE BRANCH MANAGER OF THE ZENITH BANK WHICH THE MONEY IS BEEN DEPOSITED, BUT THE MANAGER TOLD HIM THAT HE WILL NEED AN FORIEGH ACCOUNT TO TRANSFERED THE MONEY INTO BEFORE THE MONEY CAN BE SPEND, THE MANAGER TOLD HIM ALSO THAT THE DIRECTOR OF THE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE MONEY EXEPT HIM ALONE.
 
THAT IS WHY THE FORMAL PRESIDENT SON ABDUL LATEEF OBASANGO TOLD ME TO LOOK FOR A PERSON LIKE YOU WHO IS FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY THAT WILL CAN TRUST AND HAVE FAITH THAT HAVE THE FEAR OF ALLAH IN HIS MIND, THAT CAN PROVIDE AN FORIEGH ACCOUNT FOR THE TRANSFERED OF THE MONEY INTO YOUR ACCOUNT, AND HE PROMISE TO GIVE YOU 30% OF THE MONEY WHICH YOU WILL REMOVE WHEN THE MONEY IS BEEN TRANSFERED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT AND YOU WILL HELP US TO TRANSFERED  THE REMAINING 70% BACK TO THE FORMAL PRESIDENT PRIVATE ACCOUNT, HE TOLD ME HE WANT TO US OF THE MONEY FOR MUSLIM CHARITY FORUM AND BIULD A BIG MOSQUE IN THE STATE.
 
NOTICE----- PLS YOU CAN MAILL YOU ACCOUNT DETIALS TO ME AND THE BANKING DETAILS THEN I WILL REFFER YOU TO THE BANK MANAGER AND HE WILL TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, PLS HIS VERY URGENT.
 
I WILL EXPECTING YOU REPLY TODAY PLS WILL DONT HAVE MUCH TIME {ALLAH BE WITH YOU AND ME}
  
BEST REGARD
 SALAMI TUNDE IDRIS
PLS REPLY ONLY ON THIS EMAIL AND THE PHONE 234-8062744424  ttmoney81@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOW IS WORK AND YOUR FAMILY, I PRAY THAT THE GUIDIAN AND MERCY OF ALLAH BE WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.</p>
<p>FIRST I WANT YOU TO READ MY LETTER VERY CAREFULLY AND UNDERSTAND IT VERY WELL BECAUSE IT;S ALLAH  ALLAH FAVOUR FOR YOU.</p>
<p>AM SENDING THIS MAIL TO YOU REGARDING THE FORMAL PRESIDENT SON ABDUL LATEEF OBASANGO, I GOT TO MEET HIM THROUGH MY ELDER BROTHER WHEN WILL WENT TO ABUJA FOR MUSLIM CONGRESS FORUM LAST MONTH, AFTER THEN HE HAS ME TO SEE HIM THAT HE HAS A BUSINESS TO DISCUSE WHITH ME, BECAUSE MY BROTHER TOLD HIM THAT AM GOOD IN COMPUTER .<br />
ON THE 7TH OF MARCH 2009 HE TOLD ME THAT HIS FATHER, THE FORMAL PRESIDENT DEPOSITED THE SUM OF {$32,470,000 DOLLARS} IN A BANK CALL {ZENITH BANK NIG PLC} WITH THE FORMAL PRESIDENT SON NAME {ABDUL LATEEF OBASANGO} AND THE FORMAL PRESIDENT SON HAS MEET WITH THE BRANCH MANAGER OF THE ZENITH BANK WHICH THE MONEY IS BEEN DEPOSITED, BUT THE MANAGER TOLD HIM THAT HE WILL NEED AN FORIEGH ACCOUNT TO TRANSFERED THE MONEY INTO BEFORE THE MONEY CAN BE SPEND, THE MANAGER TOLD HIM ALSO THAT THE DIRECTOR OF THE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE MONEY EXEPT HIM ALONE.</p>
<p>THAT IS WHY THE FORMAL PRESIDENT SON ABDUL LATEEF OBASANGO TOLD ME TO LOOK FOR A PERSON LIKE YOU WHO IS FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY THAT WILL CAN TRUST AND HAVE FAITH THAT HAVE THE FEAR OF ALLAH IN HIS MIND, THAT CAN PROVIDE AN FORIEGH ACCOUNT FOR THE TRANSFERED OF THE MONEY INTO YOUR ACCOUNT, AND HE PROMISE TO GIVE YOU 30% OF THE MONEY WHICH YOU WILL REMOVE WHEN THE MONEY IS BEEN TRANSFERED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT AND YOU WILL HELP US TO TRANSFERED  THE REMAINING 70% BACK TO THE FORMAL PRESIDENT PRIVATE ACCOUNT, HE TOLD ME HE WANT TO US OF THE MONEY FOR MUSLIM CHARITY FORUM AND BIULD A BIG MOSQUE IN THE STATE.</p>
<p>NOTICE&#8212;&#8211; PLS YOU CAN MAILL YOU ACCOUNT DETIALS TO ME AND THE BANKING DETAILS THEN I WILL REFFER YOU TO THE BANK MANAGER AND HE WILL TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, PLS HIS VERY URGENT.</p>
<p>I WILL EXPECTING YOU REPLY TODAY PLS WILL DONT HAVE MUCH TIME {ALLAH BE WITH YOU AND ME}</p>
<p>BEST REGARD<br />
 SALAMI TUNDE IDRIS<br />
PLS REPLY ONLY ON THIS EMAIL AND THE PHONE 234-8062744424  <a href="mailto:ttmoney81@gmail.com">ttmoney81@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aalia</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/04/22/belonging-banishment-being-muslim-in-canada-book-review/#comment-45709</link>
		<dc:creator>Aalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Of course, the aqeedah of the Shias and the Shia Imami Ismailis will always be problematic to individuals like Zainab&lt;/em&gt;

For somebody who knows the correct `aqeedah and are not confused by innovations or misguided sects, the `aqeedah of Shia Imami Ismailis would be problematic to ANYONE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Of course, the aqeedah of the Shias and the Shia Imami Ismailis will always be problematic to individuals like Zainab</em></p>
<p>For somebody who knows the correct `aqeedah and are not confused by innovations or misguided sects, the `aqeedah of Shia Imami Ismailis would be problematic to ANYONE.</p>
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		<title>By: barakah</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/04/22/belonging-banishment-being-muslim-in-canada-book-review/#comment-45308</link>
		<dc:creator>barakah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I seem to have misread it but her bias against the Ismailis is quite evident from reading the review. Of course, the aqeedah of the Shias and the Shia Imami Ismailis will always be problematic to individuals like Zainab. Just as Nabuwat is for all Muslims a Divinely Ordained Institution so is Imamah to the all Shias, including Ismaili Shias. 

With regard to &quot;flat out atheists&quot;, yes their opinions are impotant too. Do we know the workings of the Almighty Creator - can we predict the time and period of His immense Grace and Bounty? In life we encounter situations of extremes sometimes, don&#039;t  we? People sometimes go astray and others who were flat out atheists all their life are led to  the straight path....

Anyway, apologies to Sister for misreading her and thank you Abu Noor for drawing that to my attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I seem to have misread it but her bias against the Ismailis is quite evident from reading the review. Of course, the aqeedah of the Shias and the Shia Imami Ismailis will always be problematic to individuals like Zainab. Just as Nabuwat is for all Muslims a Divinely Ordained Institution so is Imamah to the all Shias, including Ismaili Shias. </p>
<p>With regard to &#8220;flat out atheists&#8221;, yes their opinions are impotant too. Do we know the workings of the Almighty Creator &#8211; can we predict the time and period of His immense Grace and Bounty? In life we encounter situations of extremes sometimes, don&#8217;t  we? People sometimes go astray and others who were flat out atheists all their life are led to  the straight path&#8230;.</p>
<p>Anyway, apologies to Sister for misreading her and thank you Abu Noor for drawing that to my attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Noor</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/04/22/belonging-banishment-being-muslim-in-canada-book-review/#comment-45304</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Noor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barakah,

I think you&#039;ve misread the article.  Sister Zainab does not call Ismaili&#039;s &quot;flat out atheists.&quot;  She talks about writings in the book coming from Ismailis, progressives, and &quot;flat out atheists.&quot; These are three different groups, although each of them is different from the Sunni Orthodox aqeedah, sister Zainab is not saying they are all the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barakah,</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ve misread the article.  Sister Zainab does not call Ismaili&#8217;s &#8220;flat out atheists.&#8221;  She talks about writings in the book coming from Ismailis, progressives, and &#8220;flat out atheists.&#8221; These are three different groups, although each of them is different from the Sunni Orthodox aqeedah, sister Zainab is not saying they are all the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: barakah</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/04/22/belonging-banishment-being-muslim-in-canada-book-review/#comment-45302</link>
		<dc:creator>barakah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ismaili Imam, His Highness the Aga Khan, has spoken about  the  term &quot;Clash of Civilizations&quot; which is used to describe the relationship between the West and the Muslim World. He attributes this so-called phenomenon not as a  &quot;Clash of Civilizations&quot; but rather as a  &quot;Clash of Ignorance&quot; which he says can be overcome if both sides make a concerted effort to understand each other&#039;s civilizations - he certainly places the onus more on the West with its highly developed educational system, and has proposed ways to overcome the ignorance.  

First though, I think as (educated) Muslims  we have to address our own ignorance that we seem to have of  each other, and which I am afraid websites like yours appear to perpetuate and spread.  

I am of course referring to your  inappropriate labelling of the Ismailis as &quot;flat out atheists.&quot;  This term is derogatory, abominable and an unacceptable insult to a community and their leader who certainly believe in Allah and carry an abiding love for the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sas) and his descendants. Honestly, to me and others I have spoken to, this particular statement harbours on the fringe of a hate statement. But Ismailis, due to the advice of their Imam, do not react with threats and violence to provocations such as these! 

My teenage daughter was quite shocked to read this!  What a shame on your part to disgrace people, including children, along these lines and to poison people&#039;s attitudes and minds towards an admirable and highly respected Jamat.   

Perhaps you and your readers and highly educated Phd  contributors who harbor similar opinions should avail yourself about the Aga Khan&#039;s remarkable insights on the issues of the day. No leader that  I have read speeches of  has placed as much importance on the equilibrium between the practice of Din and Dunya as he has.

Please read his speeches and the wonderful work the Ismailis do before you  judge an entire community. 

I recommend that you visit www.akdn.org to educate yourself. By doing this you will play a  part in your own little way to overcome the “Clash of Ignorance”.

Thank you and may Allah&#039;s Grace be bestowed on you.

Barakah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ismaili Imam, His Highness the Aga Khan, has spoken about  the  term &#8220;Clash of Civilizations&#8221; which is used to describe the relationship between the West and the Muslim World. He attributes this so-called phenomenon not as a  &#8220;Clash of Civilizations&#8221; but rather as a  &#8220;Clash of Ignorance&#8221; which he says can be overcome if both sides make a concerted effort to understand each other&#8217;s civilizations &#8211; he certainly places the onus more on the West with its highly developed educational system, and has proposed ways to overcome the ignorance.  </p>
<p>First though, I think as (educated) Muslims  we have to address our own ignorance that we seem to have of  each other, and which I am afraid websites like yours appear to perpetuate and spread.  </p>
<p>I am of course referring to your  inappropriate labelling of the Ismailis as &#8220;flat out atheists.&#8221;  This term is derogatory, abominable and an unacceptable insult to a community and their leader who certainly believe in Allah and carry an abiding love for the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sas) and his descendants. Honestly, to me and others I have spoken to, this particular statement harbours on the fringe of a hate statement. But Ismailis, due to the advice of their Imam, do not react with threats and violence to provocations such as these! </p>
<p>My teenage daughter was quite shocked to read this!  What a shame on your part to disgrace people, including children, along these lines and to poison people&#8217;s attitudes and minds towards an admirable and highly respected Jamat.   </p>
<p>Perhaps you and your readers and highly educated Phd  contributors who harbor similar opinions should avail yourself about the Aga Khan&#8217;s remarkable insights on the issues of the day. No leader that  I have read speeches of  has placed as much importance on the equilibrium between the practice of Din and Dunya as he has.</p>
<p>Please read his speeches and the wonderful work the Ismailis do before you  judge an entire community. </p>
<p>I recommend that you visit <a href="http://www.akdn.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.akdn.org</a> to educate yourself. By doing this you will play a  part in your own little way to overcome the “Clash of Ignorance”.</p>
<p>Thank you and may Allah&#8217;s Grace be bestowed on you.</p>
<p>Barakah</p>
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		<title>By: C L O S E R &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Closing the week 18</title>
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		<dc:creator>C L O S E R &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Closing the week 18</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 13:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Belonging &amp; Banishment: Being Muslim in Canada - Book Review &#124; MuslimMatters.org Most of the essays in Belonging and Banishment provided food for thought and were worth the time I spent on them. If nothing else, I appreciated that trends and ideas which have been tossed around, expressed, argued about, and developed by the Muslim community have been brought together in such a concrete manner. Although I disagree with a great deal of what was said in several of the articles articles, I think that for those who aren’t easily confused or impressed by philosophical or intellectual types, it’s a good book to have on hand. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Belonging &amp; Banishment: Being Muslim in Canada &#8211; Book Review | MuslimMatters.org Most of the essays in Belonging and Banishment provided food for thought and were worth the time I spent on them. If nothing else, I appreciated that trends and ideas which have been tossed around, expressed, argued about, and developed by the Muslim community have been brought together in such a concrete manner. Although I disagree with a great deal of what was said in several of the articles articles, I think that for those who aren’t easily confused or impressed by philosophical or intellectual types, it’s a good book to have on hand. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zainab (AnonyMouse)</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/04/22/belonging-banishment-being-muslim-in-canada-book-review/#comment-42120</link>
		<dc:creator>Zainab (AnonyMouse)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mustafa
iMuslim&#039;s explanation is correct as to how I too view &#039;conservative&#039; and &#039;orthodox&#039; Sunni Muslims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mustafa<br />
iMuslim&#8217;s explanation is correct as to how I too view &#8216;conservative&#8217; and &#8216;orthodox&#8217; Sunni Muslims.</p>
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		<title>By: iMuslim</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/04/22/belonging-banishment-being-muslim-in-canada-book-review/#comment-42084</link>
		<dc:creator>iMuslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mustafa... Personally, I see the terms &#039;conservative&#039; and &#039;orthodox&#039; to be synonymous. Not sure what Zainab thinks.

&#039;Sunni&#039; refers to the root aqeedah and &#039;conservative&#039; to the interpretation of that aqeedah. There are many Sunni Muslims, but we don&#039;t all have the same views on how we should act upon the Sunnah. Even amongst conservatives, there are significant differences of opinion.

I am not seeking to divide, but rather to define, in order to illustrate why such books about &quot;Muslims&quot; are not always so representative of everyone who chooses to go by that label.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mustafa&#8230; Personally, I see the terms &#8216;conservative&#8217; and &#8216;orthodox&#8217; to be synonymous. Not sure what Zainab thinks.</p>
<p>&#8216;Sunni&#8217; refers to the root aqeedah and &#8216;conservative&#8217; to the interpretation of that aqeedah. There are many Sunni Muslims, but we don&#8217;t all have the same views on how we should act upon the Sunnah. Even amongst conservatives, there are significant differences of opinion.</p>
<p>I am not seeking to divide, but rather to define, in order to illustrate why such books about &#8220;Muslims&#8221; are not always so representative of everyone who chooses to go by that label.</p>
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		<title>By: Mustafa</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/04/22/belonging-banishment-being-muslim-in-canada-book-review/#comment-42080</link>
		<dc:creator>Mustafa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@iMuslims
@Zainaib

When reading a few of the comments I came across &quot;conservative&quot; sunni muslim.  What is a &quot;conservative&quot; sunni muslim?  I have never heard of that before.  I&#039;ve heard of Sunni Muslim or Sunni Orthodox Muslim, but I have never heard of &quot;conservative&quot; sunni muslim.  Can you guys please explain?  

JazakAllah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@iMuslims<br />
@Zainaib</p>
<p>When reading a few of the comments I came across &#8220;conservative&#8221; sunni muslim.  What is a &#8220;conservative&#8221; sunni muslim?  I have never heard of that before.  I&#8217;ve heard of Sunni Muslim or Sunni Orthodox Muslim, but I have never heard of &#8220;conservative&#8221; sunni muslim.  Can you guys please explain?  </p>
<p>JazakAllah</p>
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		<title>By: umA</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/04/22/belonging-banishment-being-muslim-in-canada-book-review/#comment-42060</link>
		<dc:creator>umA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zainab you can&#039;t receive it where you are? I receive it in Ontario. But you know they should really send you a sample for review. Email me if you&#039;d like more postage info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zainab you can&#8217;t receive it where you are? I receive it in Ontario. But you know they should really send you a sample for review. Email me if you&#8217;d like more postage info.</p>
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