Comments on: Israel’s War Crimes in Gaza: Voices Grow, Internet Helps [Phosphorus Use, Children as Human Shields] http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/27/israel-war-crime/ Discourses in the Intellectual Traditions, Political Situation, and Social Ethics of Muslim Life Thu, 24 May 2012 01:29:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: stan squires http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/27/israel-war-crime/#comment-58233 stan squires Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:23:58 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=4534#comment-58233 I am from vancouver,canada and i wanted to say that the the idea of the israeli gov. investigating its army officers over the use of white phosphuros last year in Gaza is absurd.The real criminal in this case is the israeli gov.This should be dealth with at the world court in the Hague.Thats what that court is there for,although there are very few war criminals ever tried there.Any country that is a friend of the U.S. gov.will never have to worry about its war criminals appearing before that court.Unless something is done about that the world court at the Hague is of no use. I am from vancouver,canada and i wanted to say that the the idea of the israeli gov. investigating its army officers over the use of white phosphuros last year in Gaza is absurd.The real criminal in this case is the israeli gov.This should be dealth with at the world court in the Hague.Thats what that court is there for,although there are very few war criminals ever tried there.Any country that is a friend of the U.S. gov.will never have to worry about its war criminals appearing before that court.Unless something is done about that the world court at the Hague is of no use.

]]> By: Amad http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/27/israel-war-crime/#comment-41015 Amad Sun, 29 Mar 2009 03:09:26 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=4534#comment-41015 Haroon, I am sure we would all love to hear your story... please do write to us at info at muslimmatters dot org to share... yours was a heroic journey and we want to be part of it, even in reading about it. Btw, concerning white phosphorus, this post on HuffPo has a video too: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/human-rights-watch/israel-white-phosphorus-u_b_179606.html Israel, may Allah exact the justice against you for the injustice that you committed in Gaza. Ameen. Haroon, I am sure we would all love to hear your story… please do write to us at info at muslimmatters dot org to share… yours was a heroic journey and we want to be part of it, even in reading about it.

Btw, concerning white phosphorus, this post on HuffPo has a video too:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/human-rights-watch/israel-white-phosphorus-u_b_179606.html

Israel, may Allah exact the justice against you for the injustice that you committed in Gaza. Ameen.

]]> By: Haroon http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/27/israel-war-crime/#comment-40985 Haroon Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:07:35 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=4534#comment-40985 Asalaamualaikum I was lucky to be one of the brothers who travelled to Gaza on the convoy from the UK. I just wanted you to see one of the pictures taken in Gaza when a phosphorous bomb went off. Take a look at the link: http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=55576873.jpg InshaAllah maybe I will write about my full experiences of this journey for MM if they want wasalaam Asalaamualaikum

I was lucky to be one of the brothers who travelled to Gaza on the convoy from the UK. I just wanted you to see one of the pictures taken in Gaza when a phosphorous bomb went off. Take a look at the link:

http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=55576873.jpg

InshaAllah maybe I will write about my full experiences of this journey for MM if they want

wasalaam

]]> By: muslimah http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/27/israel-war-crime/#comment-40983 muslimah Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:27:31 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=4534#comment-40983 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7960071.stm The Ummah needs to unite. We are so divided. :( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7960071.stm

The Ummah needs to unite. We are so divided. :(

]]> By: Amad http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/27/israel-war-crime/#comment-40948 Amad Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:50:02 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=4534#comment-40948 AnonyMuslim, I understand where you are coming from, but I just find it incredibly hard to blame anyone on the Palestinian side for anything... what do you expect when you cage a people... they won't just die silently. I think the time now is to FOCUS on Israel... and not let them get away with one of the most savage crime-spree and terrorism of this century. AnonyMuslim, I understand where you are coming from, but I just find it incredibly hard to blame anyone on the Palestinian side for anything… what do you expect when you cage a people… they won’t just die silently.

I think the time now is to FOCUS on Israel… and not let them get away with one of the most savage crime-spree and terrorism of this century.

]]> By: Amad http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/27/israel-war-crime/#comment-40947 Amad Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:48:02 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=4534#comment-40947 Count on <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/28/world/middleeast/28israel.html?hp" rel="nofollow">NY Times</a> to be another reliable partner to Israel's lies: Israel Disputes Soldiers’ Accounts of Gaza Abuses <blockquote>But officers familiar with the investigation say that those who spoke of the killing of the mother and her children did not witness it and that it almost certainly did not occur.</blockquote> Yeah, yeah, NY Times, ignore Human Rights Watch (NOT a Palestinian organization, United Nations (NOT a Palestinian organization), Israel's OWN soldiers, and forward Israel's "official" narrative. While you are at it, please also accept Bush and Cheney's narrative that the weapons of mass destruction were REALLY there. But even NY Times, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/27/opinion/27fri1.html" rel="nofollow">in an editorial</a>, has no choice but to admit that Israel is in serious PR doo-doo: <blockquote>Israel is increasingly isolated and facing its worst diplomatic crisis in two decades following its Gaza war. </blockquote> Count on NY Times to be another reliable partner to Israel’s lies:

Israel Disputes Soldiers’ Accounts of Gaza Abuses

But officers familiar with the investigation say that those who spoke of the killing of the mother and her children did not witness it and that it almost certainly did not occur.

Yeah, yeah, NY Times, ignore Human Rights Watch (NOT a Palestinian organization, United Nations (NOT a Palestinian organization), Israel’s OWN soldiers, and forward Israel’s “official” narrative. While you are at it, please also accept Bush and Cheney’s narrative that the weapons of mass destruction were REALLY there.

But even NY Times, in an editorial, has no choice but to admit that Israel is in serious PR doo-doo:

Israel is increasingly isolated and facing its worst diplomatic crisis in two decades following its Gaza war.

]]> By: AnonyMuslim http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/27/israel-war-crime/#comment-40929 AnonyMuslim Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:39:14 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=4534#comment-40929 There can be no doubt that Israel's PR machine in the US has been faltering the last few years, and particularly since the new administration came to office. I think you would be hard pressed to find any condemnation towards Israeli actions from mainstream US media outlets like you have seen the last few months. That said, going from "zero" to something isn't the end goal, but it's a start. From the Muslim perspective however, I still think we need to hold Hamas' feet to the fire for their indiscriminate attacks against Israeli civilians, indoctrination of Palestinian children, and general abuse of Islamic law with respect to actions of war, i.e. suicide bombing, etc. Regardless of the factual circumstances of the conflict, allowing Islamic groups to operate in this way - unchecked by our Ulama or the moral consicence of the people - will ultimately come back to haunt us. There can be no doubt that Israel’s PR machine in the US has been faltering the last few years, and particularly since the new administration came to office. I think you would be hard pressed to find any condemnation towards Israeli actions from mainstream US media outlets like you have seen the last few months. That said, going from “zero” to something isn’t the end goal, but it’s a start.

From the Muslim perspective however, I still think we need to hold Hamas’ feet to the fire for their indiscriminate attacks against Israeli civilians, indoctrination of Palestinian children, and general abuse of Islamic law with respect to actions of war, i.e. suicide bombing, etc. Regardless of the factual circumstances of the conflict, allowing Islamic groups to operate in this way – unchecked by our Ulama or the moral consicence of the people – will ultimately come back to haunt us.

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