Comments on: The Birth-Date of the Prophet and the History of the Mawlid – Part I of III http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/11/the-birth-date-of-the-prophet-and-the-history-of-the-mawlid-part-i-of-iii/ Discourses in the Intellectual Traditions, Political Situation, and Social Ethics of Muslim Life Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:04:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Younus Khan http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/11/the-birth-date-of-the-prophet-and-the-history-of-the-mawlid-part-i-of-iii/#comment-90451 Younus Khan Thu, 10 Feb 2011 04:01:43 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=4210#comment-90451 Abraha was Yemeni not Abyssinian Abraha was Yemeni not Abyssinian

]]> By: Rahmad http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/11/the-birth-date-of-the-prophet-and-the-history-of-the-mawlid-part-i-of-iii/#comment-90442 Rahmad Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:56:02 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=4210#comment-90442 asalamu alykum. What Muslim doing when the time of birth of prohet muhammad. asalamu alykum. What Muslim doing when the time of birth of prohet muhammad.

]]> By: Ayesh ziyad http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/11/the-birth-date-of-the-prophet-and-the-history-of-the-mawlid-part-i-of-iii/#comment-60629 Ayesh ziyad Mon, 01 Mar 2010 04:44:11 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=4210#comment-60629 Assalumu alkium! Every muslim love Hazrat muhammad (s.a.w.w).but here the celebrattion of birth is a conflit between muslims.But if we fallow the sahi hadith conflit will surely solve. And when we look at sahi hadith we find that Hazrat Muhammad (S.a.w.w) and Sahaba (R.A) did not celebrate this day. Can v Question who celebrate dis day frm where they have invented this day???????????????.Its a bidat .And every bidat is GUMRAHI..........................KIndly leave ur firqa and only be a momin muslim........................ Wassalm.................. Assalumu alkium!
Every muslim love Hazrat muhammad (s.a.w.w).but here the celebrattion of birth is a conflit between muslims.But if we fallow the sahi hadith conflit will surely solve. And when we look at sahi hadith we find that Hazrat Muhammad (S.a.w.w) and Sahaba (R.A) did not celebrate this day. Can v Question who celebrate dis day frm where they have invented this day???????????????.Its a bidat .And every bidat is GUMRAHI……………………..KIndly leave ur firqa and only be a momin muslim……………………
Wassalm………………

]]> By: atasha umar http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/11/the-birth-date-of-the-prophet-and-the-history-of-the-mawlid-part-i-of-iii/#comment-60568 atasha umar Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:03:38 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=4210#comment-60568 SALAM ALL, WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT IS TO FOLLOW WHT THE NABEE SAW SAID 4 US ALL TO FOLLOW.IF V R TRYING TO FOLLOW IT ,GOOD ENOUGH,IF V R NOT,THN TRY TO DO IT .THT IS ALL THT MATTERS.WASSALM SALAM ALL, WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT IS TO FOLLOW WHT THE NABEE SAW SAID 4 US ALL TO FOLLOW.IF V R TRYING TO FOLLOW IT ,GOOD ENOUGH,IF V R NOT,THN TRY TO DO IT .THT IS ALL THT MATTERS.WASSALM

]]> By: Salahuddin http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/11/the-birth-date-of-the-prophet-and-the-history-of-the-mawlid-part-i-of-iii/#comment-56436 Salahuddin Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:56:10 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=4210#comment-56436 <strong>Salaam u aleykum wa rahmatallah Whether the Prophet saw was born on the 2nd, 8th, 10th or 12th of Rabbi ul-Awwal, doesnt really matter. We NEVER limit the Mawlid celebration to be for just one day. People celebrate Mawlid un-Nabi all year round... Many people label the Mawlid as beeing biddah, saying that we shouldnt limit the dhikr of RasoolAllah saw to be just one day, and be forgetfull rest of the year. This is NOT the fact..as I said...the date is irrelevant as people celebrate the Mawlid of RasoolAllah all year round. </strong> Salaam u aleykum wa rahmatallah

Whether the Prophet saw was born on the 2nd, 8th, 10th or 12th of Rabbi ul-Awwal, doesnt really matter. We NEVER limit the Mawlid celebration to be for just one day. People celebrate Mawlid un-Nabi all year round… Many people label the Mawlid as beeing biddah, saying that we shouldnt limit the dhikr of RasoolAllah saw to be just one day, and be forgetfull rest of the year. This is NOT the fact..as I said…the date is irrelevant as people celebrate the Mawlid of RasoolAllah all year round.

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]]> By: Abd- Allah http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/11/the-birth-date-of-the-prophet-and-the-history-of-the-mawlid-part-i-of-iii/#comment-40958 Abd- Allah Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:00:54 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=4210#comment-40958 "so which part of this is ‘following the Sunnah of abu Lahab’ ???!?" <strong>Brother dawud</strong>, the people who celebrate Mawlid say that if abu lahab got his punishment decreased because he freed a slave on Mawlid, and they use that as an excuse to celebrate the Mawlid. <strong>So celebrating the Mawlid is the sunnah of abu lahab, because it is definitely NOT the sunnah of the prophet peace be upon him nor that of his companions may Allah be pleased with them.</strong> <strong>Imam Malik ibn Anas said “he who innovates an innovation in Islam, while regarding it as something good, has claimed that Muhammad has betrayed his trust to deliver the message, as Allah says, ‘this day have I perfected for you your religion’. And whatsoever was not part of the religion then, is not part of the religion today.”</strong> Mawlid was not part of our complete religion back then at the time of the prophet sallalahu alyhi wasalam and his companions, and nor is it part of our complete religion today! “so which part of this is ‘following the Sunnah of abu Lahab’ ???!?”

Brother dawud, the people who celebrate Mawlid say that if abu lahab got his punishment decreased because he freed a slave on Mawlid, and they use that as an excuse to celebrate the Mawlid. So celebrating the Mawlid is the sunnah of abu lahab, because it is definitely NOT the sunnah of the prophet peace be upon him nor that of his companions may Allah be pleased with them.

Imam Malik ibn Anas said “he who innovates an innovation in Islam, while regarding it as something good, has claimed that Muhammad has betrayed his trust to deliver the message, as Allah says, ‘this day have I perfected for you your religion’. And whatsoever was not part of the religion then, is not part of the religion today.”

Mawlid was not part of our complete religion back then at the time of the prophet sallalahu alyhi wasalam and his companions, and nor is it part of our complete religion today!

]]> By: dawud http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/11/the-birth-date-of-the-prophet-and-the-history-of-the-mawlid-part-i-of-iii/#comment-40954 dawud Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:29:47 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=4210#comment-40954 the question about 'following the Sunnah of abu Lahab' was snarky and rude, and I should avoid answering in that mode - just consider the thought: freeing a slave is a confirmed Sunnah, fasting on Monday is a confirmed Sunnah with the scholars affirming that it is a special day due to it being the day of the Prophet's birth - so which part of this is 'following the Sunnah of abu Lahab' ???!? Freeing a slave? being grateful for the birth of a child? The scholars who wrote before you didn't feel like mocking the Sunnah of fasting on Monday or freeing a slave, so please keep up your superior speech, arrogance in dealing with your brethren is why most muslims ignore ideologues of your ilk. in general, I would think Shaykh Abdullah bin Bayyah put it best: http://binbayyah.wordpress.com/2009/02/06/on-celebrating-the-prophet%e2%80%99s-birthday/ <em>So in my opinion there is no need to prolong discussion of it, nor to fuel further debate about it. In conclusion: whoever celebrates the Mawlid by relating events from the life of the Prophet, peace be upon him, or by recounting his splendid virtues; doing so without mixing this with any act that the Sacred Law deems repugnant; nor with the intention of it being recommended or obligatory - so if it is celebrated with the conditions I have mentioned; without bringing in to it anything that contravenes the Sacred Law; but out of love for the Prophet, peace be upon him - then, Allah willing, there is no problem with it, and he will be rewarded. This was mentioned by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah who said that one will be rewarded for their intention. He states this in Iqti∂å’ al-Íirå† al-Mustaq•m.2 As for those who abstain from the act, also desiring to conform to the prophetic guidance and fearful of falling into bid‘ah, they too shall be rewarded, Allah willing. The issue is not really that big; nor is it necessary to pay it more attention than it actually deserves.</em> and Ustadh Yasir Qadhi affirmed the same by quoting the same statement from ibn Taymiyyah's 'Iqtida as-Sirat ul-Mustaqim' - those who continue to argue may pretend they know better than these two contemporary scholars, or think that their opinion should outweigh what those scholars have to say, but they should bring a dalil better than 'what other credible scholars say' the question about ‘following the Sunnah of abu Lahab’ was snarky and rude, and I should avoid answering in that mode – just consider the thought: freeing a slave is a confirmed Sunnah, fasting on Monday is a confirmed Sunnah with the scholars affirming that it is a special day due to it being the day of the Prophet’s birth – so which part of this is ‘following the Sunnah of abu Lahab’ ???!?

Freeing a slave?

being grateful for the birth of a child?

The scholars who wrote before you didn’t feel like mocking the Sunnah of fasting on Monday or freeing a slave, so please keep up your superior speech, arrogance in dealing with your brethren is why most muslims ignore ideologues of your ilk.

in general, I would think Shaykh Abdullah bin Bayyah put it best:
http://binbayyah.wordpress.com/2009/02/06/on-celebrating-the-prophet%e2%80%99s-birthday/
So in my opinion there is no need to prolong discussion of it, nor to fuel further debate about it. In conclusion: whoever celebrates the Mawlid by relating events from the life of the Prophet, peace be upon him, or by recounting his splendid virtues; doing so without mixing this with any act that the Sacred Law deems repugnant; nor with the intention of it being recommended or obligatory – so if it is celebrated with the conditions I have mentioned; without bringing in to it anything that contravenes the Sacred Law; but out of love for the Prophet, peace be upon him – then, Allah willing, there is no problem with it, and he will be rewarded. This was mentioned by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah who said that one will be rewarded for their intention. He states this in Iqti∂å’ al-Íirå† al-Mustaq•m.2 As for those who abstain from the act, also desiring to conform to the prophetic guidance and fearful of falling into bid‘ah, they too shall be rewarded, Allah willing. The issue is not really that big; nor is it necessary to pay it more attention than it actually deserves.

and Ustadh Yasir Qadhi affirmed the same by quoting the same statement from ibn Taymiyyah’s ‘Iqtida as-Sirat ul-Mustaqim’ – those who continue to argue may pretend they know better than these two contemporary scholars, or think that their opinion should outweigh what those scholars have to say, but they should bring a dalil better than ‘what other credible scholars say’

]]> By: Abd- Allah http://muslimmatters.org/2009/03/11/the-birth-date-of-the-prophet-and-the-history-of-the-mawlid-part-i-of-iii/#comment-40841 Abd- Allah Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:47:19 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/?p=4210#comment-40841 "and if the person critizing the hadith quoted from Bukhari " Brother dawud, what you and many other people don't seem to understand that this "hadith" quoted in bukhari is NOT a hadith. That is all what i was saying, and it doesn't take a hadith scholar to know that. Go read that "hadith" yourself and you will know right away that this is NOT something that the prophet peace be upon him said. In addition, most of the arguments that i make are not mine, and i only say what i hear other credible scholars say. As for that "hadith" in bukhari, it is NOT a hadith, go ask any sheikh and he will tell you that it is NOT a hadith eventhough it is in bukhari. Not everything in bukhari is a hadith you know. “and if the person critizing the hadith quoted from Bukhari ”

Brother dawud,
what you and many other people don’t seem to understand that this “hadith” quoted in bukhari is NOT a hadith. That is all what i was saying, and it doesn’t take a hadith scholar to know that. Go read that “hadith” yourself and you will know right away that this is NOT something that the prophet peace be upon him said. In addition, most of the arguments that i make are not mine, and i only say what i hear other credible scholars say. As for that “hadith” in bukhari, it is NOT a hadith, go ask any sheikh and he will tell you that it is NOT a hadith eventhough it is in bukhari. Not everything in bukhari is a hadith you know.

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