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	<title>Comments on: Thank President Obama for Closing Guantanamo</title>
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		<title>By: Open Address to Obama &#124; Al X&#039;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/01/22/thank-president-obama-for-closing-guantanamo/#comment-72459</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Address to Obama &#124; Al X&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Muslim blood on Obamaâ€™s hands as well as his voters and supporters has now officially started. Some Muslims are fooling themselves into seeing Obama in a good light (for closing Guantanamo) and are totally [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hassan</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/01/22/thank-president-obama-for-closing-guantanamo/#comment-43619</link>
		<dc:creator>Hassan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spoke too soon


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uuWVHT1WUY</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uuWVHT1WUY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uuWVHT1WUY</a></p>
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		<title>By: abu abdAllah Tariq Ahmed (associate)</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/01/22/thank-president-obama-for-closing-guantanamo/#comment-38978</link>
		<dc:creator>abu abdAllah Tariq Ahmed (associate)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bismillah.  Amad, did i only call you a prince before?  subhanAllah, i love you for the sake of Allah.  may Allah reward your sabr.  that last exchange of friendly fire with ibn Habib... :D

(yeah, the big smile is sadaqah.  here&#039;s more: :) )

i don&#039;t call this reason for hope: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/21/washington/21policy.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bismillah.  Amad, did i only call you a prince before?  subhanAllah, i love you for the sake of Allah.  may Allah reward your sabr.  that last exchange of friendly fire with ibn Habib&#8230; :D</p>
<p>(yeah, the big smile is sadaqah.  here&#8217;s more: :) )</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t call this reason for hope: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/21/washington/21policy.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/21/washington/21policy.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Siraaj</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/01/22/thank-president-obama-for-closing-guantanamo/#comment-38976</link>
		<dc:creator>Siraaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as the old saying goes Amad, better the true enemy than the false friend - at least with the pakistani government, we know what&#039;s there, but as for Obama, we cannot forever make 70 excuses for every broken campaign promise.

Siraaj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as the old saying goes Amad, better the true enemy than the false friend &#8211; at least with the pakistani government, we know what&#8217;s there, but as for Obama, we cannot forever make 70 excuses for every broken campaign promise.</p>
<p>Siraaj</p>
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		<title>By: Amad</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/01/22/thank-president-obama-for-closing-guantanamo/#comment-38975</link>
		<dc:creator>Amad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, ibn Habib, you are absolutely right about your assumptions on the author. Thank you for the edification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, ibn Habib, you are absolutely right about your assumptions on the author. Thank you for the edification.</p>
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		<title>By: ibn Habib</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/01/22/thank-president-obama-for-closing-guantanamo/#comment-38973</link>
		<dc:creator>ibn Habib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 06:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article should be used as evidence regarding why individuals who have not studied foreign policy should remain silent. I am assuming that the author has not studied this discipline, based on the ludicrous contentions found in the article; so repugnant are these assertions that they do not even merit a counter response. I am additionally dissapointed by MM, for allowing individuals to post rubbish, least of which is pertaining to their professional career.

I hope the author realizes that they will have to face Allah SWT for what they have written in the article, especially if it is grounded in ignorance- i.e. the individual has not studied international relations; specifically policies of Zbigniew Brzezinski, the most influential mentor to Obama.

I want to see a thank you letter when Pakistan is fully attacked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article should be used as evidence regarding why individuals who have not studied foreign policy should remain silent. I am assuming that the author has not studied this discipline, based on the ludicrous contentions found in the article; so repugnant are these assertions that they do not even merit a counter response. I am additionally dissapointed by MM, for allowing individuals to post rubbish, least of which is pertaining to their professional career.</p>
<p>I hope the author realizes that they will have to face Allah SWT for what they have written in the article, especially if it is grounded in ignorance- i.e. the individual has not studied international relations; specifically policies of Zbigniew Brzezinski, the most influential mentor to Obama.</p>
<p>I want to see a thank you letter when Pakistan is fully attacked.</p>
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		<title>By: abu abdAllah Tariq Ahmed</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/01/22/thank-president-obama-for-closing-guantanamo/#comment-38969</link>
		<dc:creator>abu abdAllah Tariq Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bismillah. i&#039;d like to believe there are silver linings somewhere in that news.  i&#039;d like to always find the positive side of events, because all events are part of the Qadr we witness.  but i remember from the adhkaar, &quot;wal khayru kullaho biyadayk, wash-sharru laysa ilayk.&quot;  and i fear we watch more of the evil that men work on earth.  so much so that the one saving grace i know is from the Qur&#039;an, where Allah reminds us that the evil among men will plan and scheme, and all their schemes will be undone by Allah.

la ilaha illAllah.  hasbunAllaho, wa Nay&#039;mal Wakeel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bismillah. i&#8217;d like to believe there are silver linings somewhere in that news.  i&#8217;d like to always find the positive side of events, because all events are part of the Qadr we witness.  but i remember from the adhkaar, &#8220;wal khayru kullaho biyadayk, wash-sharru laysa ilayk.&#8221;  and i fear we watch more of the evil that men work on earth.  so much so that the one saving grace i know is from the Qur&#8217;an, where Allah reminds us that the evil among men will plan and scheme, and all their schemes will be undone by Allah.</p>
<p>la ilaha illAllah.  hasbunAllaho, wa Nay&#8217;mal Wakeel.</p>
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		<title>By: Amad</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/01/22/thank-president-obama-for-closing-guantanamo/#comment-38965</link>
		<dc:creator>Amad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that a few of Obama&#039;s actions lately have been disappointing. There was another news article in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/18/us/politics/18policy.html?ref=us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NY Times&lt;/a&gt; around this. We should definitely make a stink about this, and follow the lead of human rights organization such as ACLU in sending a message to Obama that this is unacceptable. 

While this is not justification, I do kind of see why Obama is being so careful about these things... the pressure of making a mistake and letting lose a terrorist who later hurts America will literally destroy Obama. There is no doubt that the pressure and fear of unintended consequences is clouding his good judgement.

On a different note, I was going to write up a post on this, but since you brought up the issue around Obama, I&#039;d like to jump back to the entire discussion about the attacks in Pakistan... who should we really thank? Obama or the Pakistani government?

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/02/19/world/worldwatch/entry4812368.shtml
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=86145&amp;sectionid=351020401

In the face of clear evidence that the Pakistani intelligence/military and definitely the government is involved with these attacks, how is this different from Turkey&#039;s attack on the PKK for instance? And if Pakistan itself is cooperating, and apparently agrees with the US that they are going after terrorists, then what? Finally, if there are indeed terrorists from Al-Qaeda hiding in this region, and Pakistan too wants to get rid of them, then what?  I think the complexity of Pakistani operations should give us some pause... when you have friends like Zardari, who needs enemies? On the other hand, as a Pakistani-American, I do not want my motherland to become a sanctuary for Al-Qaeda or other terrorist organizations (organizations that target civilians, not referring to freedom-fighters like the Uighurs, Uzbeks, etc.).  wallahualam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that a few of Obama&#8217;s actions lately have been disappointing. There was another news article in the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/18/us/politics/18policy.html?ref=us" rel="nofollow">NY Times</a> around this. We should definitely make a stink about this, and follow the lead of human rights organization such as ACLU in sending a message to Obama that this is unacceptable. </p>
<p>While this is not justification, I do kind of see why Obama is being so careful about these things&#8230; the pressure of making a mistake and letting lose a terrorist who later hurts America will literally destroy Obama. There is no doubt that the pressure and fear of unintended consequences is clouding his good judgement.</p>
<p>On a different note, I was going to write up a post on this, but since you brought up the issue around Obama, I&#8217;d like to jump back to the entire discussion about the attacks in Pakistan&#8230; who should we really thank? Obama or the Pakistani government?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/02/19/world/worldwatch/entry4812368.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/02/19/world/worldwatch/entry4812368.shtml</a><br />
<a href="http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=86145&#038;sectionid=351020401" rel="nofollow">http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=86145&#038;sectionid=351020401</a></p>
<p>In the face of clear evidence that the Pakistani intelligence/military and definitely the government is involved with these attacks, how is this different from Turkey&#8217;s attack on the PKK for instance? And if Pakistan itself is cooperating, and apparently agrees with the US that they are going after terrorists, then what? Finally, if there are indeed terrorists from Al-Qaeda hiding in this region, and Pakistan too wants to get rid of them, then what?  I think the complexity of Pakistani operations should give us some pause&#8230; when you have friends like Zardari, who needs enemies? On the other hand, as a Pakistani-American, I do not want my motherland to become a sanctuary for Al-Qaeda or other terrorist organizations (organizations that target civilians, not referring to freedom-fighters like the Uighurs, Uzbeks, etc.).  wallahualam</p>
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		<title>By: Siraaj Muhammad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siraaj Muhammad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 03:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/02/20/afghan.detainees/index.html

More to thank Obama for - seeing the wisdom in President Bush&#039;s policies!

Siraaj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/02/20/afghan.detainees/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/02/20/afghan.detainees/index.html</a></p>
<p>More to thank Obama for &#8211; seeing the wisdom in President Bush&#8217;s policies!</p>
<p>Siraaj</p>
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		<title>By: What is wrong with you people!</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2009/01/22/thank-president-obama-for-closing-guantanamo/#comment-37656</link>
		<dc:creator>What is wrong with you people!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank Obama for killing 20 civilians in Afghanistan, and for promising to kill more.

Why stop there, let&#039;s sacrifice all the lives of Muslims in all the lands EXCEPT U.S of A, so that Obama can be glorified.

Why stop there either? let&#039;s say &quot;Hail Obama! you are the one to show us the way to Jannah!&quot; 

Let&#039;s also say &quot;Do whatever you want with is, we will still thank you!&quot;

While we are at it, let&#039;s also start worshipping him. Why not? If we can run with the speed of sound in gratitude towards him just because he said &quot;we are closing Guantanamo&quot; and hasn&#039;t yet done that, with many questions still dangling over our head like what will happen to the prisoners, are they going to be released or not, so on and so forth, then why not go all the way to the end?

The order hasnt even been carried out yet. One year, and they can change the order in an hour notice. If these prisoners are brought to court in the USA, By Allaah they will not get fair judgement, let alone fair treatment, and I would be waiting to see how many of the authors of this site get up to support those muslims.

By Allaah I ask u, do u people have any mercy towards ur brothers and sisters in Islam? Any, at all??

The ones mercilessly slaughtered in Gaza, while Obama kept silent and swung his Golf club in Hawaii?? Do u have any sympathy for those poor Afghans being slaughtered as Obama sends more troops to increase their slaughter?

&quot;I just WISH we would actually “listen” to the point of the post before trying to bury it in a heap of unrelated chatter? Is justice to the author, to the post, to the human being too much to ask?&quot; - amad

Yes! the death of Gazans and Afghans is unrelated. Yes! it is unrelated indeed. Yes! the closing of one prison, and the subsequent opening of countless others we have no idea about (including the good old ones like Abu Ghuraib) is indeed unrelated.

Do u keep any count of how many civilians they have killed in Afghanistan, as Obama promises more of that?? u people bury urself in the sand of &quot;US media&quot; desert, do u have any idea whats going on the rest of the world? everything u say seems so &quot;bound within the borders of USA&quot;!! 

Ajeeb

Did I miss u utter, in this forum, a single word against these murderers?? 

Did I miss Obama saying: We are not gonna support, finance and help in possible ways Israel in killing the Muslims in Filistine anymore?

How can u say even a single word in support of these SCUMS OF THE EARTH, If u have an atom weight of humanity in ur heart?

I challenge u, the authors of these forums, to sit on your prayer mats in the luxury and comfort of ur homes and ask yourself, what have u done to ur hearts? do u not see how blinded u have become to the sufferings of this Ummah? Do u not feel any pain at all? Do u not see u are dipped a hundred feet in deception of Shaitaan?

Do u not realise that the words u are uttering today in support of these murderers will testify against you on Yawmul Qiyaamah?

Nay! But on their hearts is the Ran (covering of sins and evil deeds) which they used to earn.
Nay! Surely, they (evil-doers) will be veiled from seeing their Lord that Day.
Then, verily they will indeed enter and taste the burning flame of Hell.
Then, it will be said to them: &quot;This is what you used to deny!&quot;

Fear Allah, and fear the evil of ur deeds, and words that have come out from the mind to the public, are indeed deeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank Obama for killing 20 civilians in Afghanistan, and for promising to kill more.</p>
<p>Why stop there, let&#8217;s sacrifice all the lives of Muslims in all the lands EXCEPT U.S of A, so that Obama can be glorified.</p>
<p>Why stop there either? let&#8217;s say &#8220;Hail Obama! you are the one to show us the way to Jannah!&#8221; </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s also say &#8220;Do whatever you want with is, we will still thank you!&#8221;</p>
<p>While we are at it, let&#8217;s also start worshipping him. Why not? If we can run with the speed of sound in gratitude towards him just because he said &#8220;we are closing Guantanamo&#8221; and hasn&#8217;t yet done that, with many questions still dangling over our head like what will happen to the prisoners, are they going to be released or not, so on and so forth, then why not go all the way to the end?</p>
<p>The order hasnt even been carried out yet. One year, and they can change the order in an hour notice. If these prisoners are brought to court in the USA, By Allaah they will not get fair judgement, let alone fair treatment, and I would be waiting to see how many of the authors of this site get up to support those muslims.</p>
<p>By Allaah I ask u, do u people have any mercy towards ur brothers and sisters in Islam? Any, at all??</p>
<p>The ones mercilessly slaughtered in Gaza, while Obama kept silent and swung his Golf club in Hawaii?? Do u have any sympathy for those poor Afghans being slaughtered as Obama sends more troops to increase their slaughter?</p>
<p>&#8220;I just WISH we would actually “listen” to the point of the post before trying to bury it in a heap of unrelated chatter? Is justice to the author, to the post, to the human being too much to ask?&#8221; &#8211; amad</p>
<p>Yes! the death of Gazans and Afghans is unrelated. Yes! it is unrelated indeed. Yes! the closing of one prison, and the subsequent opening of countless others we have no idea about (including the good old ones like Abu Ghuraib) is indeed unrelated.</p>
<p>Do u keep any count of how many civilians they have killed in Afghanistan, as Obama promises more of that?? u people bury urself in the sand of &#8220;US media&#8221; desert, do u have any idea whats going on the rest of the world? everything u say seems so &#8220;bound within the borders of USA&#8221;!! </p>
<p>Ajeeb</p>
<p>Did I miss u utter, in this forum, a single word against these murderers?? </p>
<p>Did I miss Obama saying: We are not gonna support, finance and help in possible ways Israel in killing the Muslims in Filistine anymore?</p>
<p>How can u say even a single word in support of these SCUMS OF THE EARTH, If u have an atom weight of humanity in ur heart?</p>
<p>I challenge u, the authors of these forums, to sit on your prayer mats in the luxury and comfort of ur homes and ask yourself, what have u done to ur hearts? do u not see how blinded u have become to the sufferings of this Ummah? Do u not feel any pain at all? Do u not see u are dipped a hundred feet in deception of Shaitaan?</p>
<p>Do u not realise that the words u are uttering today in support of these murderers will testify against you on Yawmul Qiyaamah?</p>
<p>Nay! But on their hearts is the Ran (covering of sins and evil deeds) which they used to earn.<br />
Nay! Surely, they (evil-doers) will be veiled from seeing their Lord that Day.<br />
Then, verily they will indeed enter and taste the burning flame of Hell.<br />
Then, it will be said to them: &#8220;This is what you used to deny!&#8221;</p>
<p>Fear Allah, and fear the evil of ur deeds, and words that have come out from the mind to the public, are indeed deeds.</p>
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