Comments on: Israel’s Message to the World http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/ Discourses in the Intellectual Traditions, Political Situation, and Social Ethics of Muslim Life Thu, 24 May 2012 00:04:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Umar Lee forgot about AlMaghrib Institute and the Great Salafi Scholars | MR's Blog http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-36850 Umar Lee forgot about AlMaghrib Institute and the Great Salafi Scholars | MR's Blog Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:35:12 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-36850 [...] read these articles by Sh. Yaser Birjas (who is Palestinian by the way) and Sh. Yasir Qadhi regarding the situation in [...] [...] read these articles by Sh. Yaser Birjas (who is Palestinian by the way) and Sh. Yasir Qadhi regarding the situation in [...]

]]> By: D http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35829 D Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:31:58 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35829 But they are pagan Khazars who were converted just the same as the Irish were converted. It is as ridiculous to call them "people of the Holy Land," as it would be to call the 54 million Chinese Moslems "Arabs." Mohammed only died in 620 A.D., and since then 54 million Chinese have accepted Islam as their religious belief. Now imagine, in China, 2,000 miles away from Arabia, from Mecca and Mohammed's birthplace. Imagine if the 54 million Chinese decided to call themselves "Arabs." You would say they were lunatics. Anyone who believes that those 54 million Chinese are Arabs must be crazy. All they did was adopt as a religious faith a belief that had its origin in Mecca, in Arabia. The same as the Irish. When the Irish became Christians, nobody dumped them in the ocean and imported to the Holy Land a new crop of inhabitants. They hadn't become a different people. They were the same people, but they had accepted Christianity as a religious faith. GOOGLE: BENJAMIN FREEDMAN SPEAKS: A JEWISH DEFECTOR WARNS AMERICA http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/history/zionism/news.php?q=1228947965 But they are pagan Khazars who were converted just the same as the Irish were converted. It is as ridiculous to call them “people of the Holy Land,” as it would be to call the 54 million Chinese Moslems “Arabs.” Mohammed only died in 620 A.D., and since then 54 million Chinese have accepted Islam as their religious belief. Now imagine, in China, 2,000 miles away from Arabia, from Mecca and Mohammed’s birthplace. Imagine if the 54 million Chinese decided to call themselves “Arabs.” You would say they were lunatics. Anyone who believes that those 54 million Chinese are Arabs must be crazy. All they did was adopt as a religious faith a belief that had its origin in Mecca, in Arabia. The same as the Irish. When the Irish became Christians, nobody dumped them in the ocean and imported to the Holy Land a new crop of inhabitants. They hadn’t become a different people. They were the same people, but they had accepted Christianity as a religious faith.

GOOGLE:
BENJAMIN FREEDMAN SPEAKS: A JEWISH DEFECTOR WARNS AMERICA

http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/history/zionism/news.php?q=1228947965

]]> By: RighteousServant http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35726 RighteousServant Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:29:24 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35726 I can see why it may be hard for Muslims to attack the actions of Hamas when they are the only ones fighting for Palestine, because they are, however if we, as Muslims, are going to use the Furqaan(Criterion) for our decision making Islam(the Quran and Sunnah), namely what is right and just and good, and what is wrong evil and bad, then we should hold the Muslims more than anyone under this criteria and criticize and correct them when they make a mistake. Whether that Muslim will be ourselves our brother, or the fake weak and incompetent governments in the Middle East. We must correct ourselves before we take on our real enemies. I can see why it may be hard for Muslims to attack the actions of Hamas when they are the only ones fighting for Palestine, because they are, however if we, as Muslims, are going to use the Furqaan(Criterion) for our decision making Islam(the Quran and Sunnah), namely what is right and just and good, and what is wrong evil and bad, then we should hold the Muslims more than anyone under this criteria and criticize and correct them when they make a mistake. Whether that Muslim will be ourselves our brother, or the fake weak and incompetent governments in the Middle East.

We must correct ourselves before we take on our real enemies.

]]> By: RighteousServant http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35725 RighteousServant Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:22:04 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35725 Within the framework of the Quran and Sunnah implies killing Isreali soldiers! and not infants or non-soldiers drinking cofee in Isreal. The "muslims" will not win unless they fight like Muslims and not like angry irrational beings devoid of the teachings of Islam in actions but full of Islam in lip service in fancy addresses to the world. By this I mean that the target for military operations are not non-combatants but the actually military that is killing innocent people! The planes and soldiers kill them! and do not overstep the boundaries set by Allah and His messenger. 8:46 : And obey Allah and His Messenger, and do not dispute and [thus] lose courage and [then] your strength would depart; and be patient. Indeed, Allah is with the patient. 005.054 O you who have believed, whoever of you should revert from his religion - Allah will bring forth [in place of them] a people He will love and who will love Him [who are] humble toward the believers, powerful against the disbelievers; they shall strive hard in Allah's way and shall not fear the censure of any censurer. That is the favor of Allah ; He bestows it upon whom He wills. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing. 004.059 O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result. 033.021 Sahih International: There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often. Within the framework of the Quran and Sunnah implies killing Isreali soldiers! and not infants or non-soldiers drinking cofee in Isreal.

The “muslims” will not win unless they fight like Muslims and not like angry irrational beings devoid of the teachings of Islam in actions but full of Islam in lip service in fancy addresses to the world.

By this I mean that the target for military operations are not non-combatants but the actually military that is killing innocent people! The planes and soldiers kill them! and do not overstep the boundaries set by Allah and His messenger.

8:46 : And obey Allah and His Messenger, and do not dispute and [thus] lose courage and [then] your strength would depart; and be patient. Indeed, Allah is with the patient.
005.054
O you who have believed, whoever of you should revert from his religion – Allah will bring forth [in place of them] a people He will love and who will love Him [who are] humble toward the believers, powerful against the disbelievers; they shall strive hard in Allah’s way and shall not fear the censure of any censurer. That is the favor of Allah ; He bestows it upon whom He wills. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.
004.059
O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result.
033.021
Sahih International: There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often.

]]> By: RighteousServant http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35722 RighteousServant Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:13:54 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35722 Salam, Quick question for Sheikh Yasir and everyone, It seems to me that there is a real scare among most of the Muslims(especially the "scholars"), not to speak against Isreal's terrible attrocities, but are afraid to condemn the actions of Hamas when it targets civilian populations kiling women and children attacking schools and monastaries, when this goes against Islam, the Quran, the word of Allah, and the Sunnah of the prophet (pbuh). -Narrated in Abu Dawud the prophet (pbuh) said: "do not kill any old person, any child, or any woman." In the Musnad of Imam ibn Hanbal: "Do not kill the people who are sitting in places of worship". -In the Quran we are told to fight those who fight you, and if non-combatants are not fighting you then you can't fight them, but Hamas repeatadly is breaking the Islamic law and TARGETING non-combatants. See Quran 2. 190 below; also 5:32, 6:151 Translation by Sahih International 2.190: Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors. Palestine has the right to defend herself, but within the framework of the Quran and Sunnah! Comments and responses are appreciated Salam, Quick question for Sheikh Yasir and everyone,

It seems to me that there is a real scare among most of the Muslims(especially the “scholars”), not to speak against Isreal’s terrible attrocities, but are afraid to condemn the actions of Hamas when it targets civilian populations kiling women and children attacking schools and monastaries, when this goes against Islam, the Quran, the word of Allah, and the Sunnah of the prophet (pbuh).

-Narrated in Abu Dawud the prophet (pbuh) said: “do not kill any old person, any child, or any woman.” In the Musnad of Imam ibn Hanbal: “Do not kill the people who are sitting in places of worship”.
-In the Quran we are told to fight those who fight you, and if non-combatants are not fighting you then you can’t fight them, but Hamas repeatadly is breaking the Islamic law and TARGETING non-combatants.
See Quran 2. 190 below; also 5:32, 6:151
Translation by Sahih International
2.190: Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.

Palestine has the right to defend herself, but within the framework of the Quran and Sunnah!
Comments and responses are appreciated

]]> By: muslimahh http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35416 muslimahh Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:52:37 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35416 As wr wb, ..and fight against the Mushrikûn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh) collectively[2] as they fight against you collectively(surah At-tawbah, verse 36) How can the Ummah be united? WHO & HOW will we be able to 'collectively' help :( I ask Allah swt to help ppl of Gaza & make the ummah united, Ameen As wr wb,

..and fight against the Mushrikûn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh) collectively[2] as they fight against you collectively(surah At-tawbah, verse 36)

How can the Ummah be united? WHO & HOW will we be able to ‘collectively’ help :(

I ask Allah swt to help ppl of Gaza & make the ummah united, Ameen

]]> By: abu abdAllah, the Houstonian http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35384 abu abdAllah, the Houstonian Fri, 02 Jan 2009 03:28:07 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35384 innalhamdolillah. bismillah. this excerpt from a New York Times <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/02/world/middleeast/02mideast.html?partner=permalink&exprod=permalink" rel="nofollow">article</a>, January 1: <blockquote>Ms. Livni, speaking from Paris, again rejected the idea proposed this week by Mr. Kouchner for a 48-hour lull in the fighting for humanitarian purposes. <strong>“There is no humanitarian crisis” in Gaza, she said, “and therefore there is no need for a humanitarian truce.”</strong></blockquote> what words describe the Israeli foreign minister, the woman who said those words? if "Jew" is one of them, then all Jews should weep for being her sister. i pray that Allah will turn her blood to boiling oil. if she burned in hell with only the same fire that her country has rained down on Gaza in the past week, still it would not be enough. and Allah Knows that the fire of hell will burn so much more hotly, and that once her flesh has burned away completely, she will be repeatedly revived to go through that pain again and again. her words, assuming the Times did not quote them out of context, are so much beneath the pale of decency that i cannot even find it in me to pray that Allah will guide her to what is better for her. if she fell down repentant to Allah tomorrow and took shahadah, and meant it, i would still never want to be in the same room as her. but for my fear of Allah, her words would suck from my heart any compassion for Israel. but these are her words, and the hell i pray for her, i pray Allah will still guide from her countrymen to the Straight Path. and i pray to Allah for the people of Gaza, the <strong>humans of Gaza</strong>, whom the Israelis butcher as though they were less than animals, whom the Israelis step on as though they were less than the ants that Sulayman alayhis salam's army avoided, to whom the foreign minister's published and public words deny humanity as callously as any lieutenant of Auschwitz's denial that there had been any tragedy there. make dua in qunoot, encourage your masjid's imams to do so, and pray to Allah to deliver the Gazans and all the Palestinians from the boot of Israeli tyranny. innalhamdolillah. bismillah.

this excerpt from a New York Times article, January 1:

Ms. Livni, speaking from Paris, again rejected the idea proposed this week by Mr. Kouchner for a 48-hour lull in the fighting for humanitarian purposes. “There is no humanitarian crisis” in Gaza, she said, “and therefore there is no need for a humanitarian truce.”

what words describe the Israeli foreign minister, the woman who said those words? if “Jew” is one of them, then all Jews should weep for being her sister.

i pray that Allah will turn her blood to boiling oil. if she burned in hell with only the same fire that her country has rained down on Gaza in the past week, still it would not be enough. and Allah Knows that the fire of hell will burn so much more hotly, and that once her flesh has burned away completely, she will be repeatedly revived to go through that pain again and again. her words, assuming the Times did not quote them out of context, are so much beneath the pale of decency that i cannot even find it in me to pray that Allah will guide her to what is better for her. if she fell down repentant to Allah tomorrow and took shahadah, and meant it, i would still never want to be in the same room as her.

but for my fear of Allah, her words would suck from my heart any compassion for Israel. but these are her words, and the hell i pray for her, i pray Allah will still guide from her countrymen to the Straight Path.

and i pray to Allah for the people of Gaza, the humans of Gaza, whom the Israelis butcher as though they were less than animals, whom the Israelis step on as though they were less than the ants that Sulayman alayhis salam’s army avoided, to whom the foreign minister’s published and public words deny humanity as callously as any lieutenant of Auschwitz’s denial that there had been any tragedy there.

make dua in qunoot, encourage your masjid’s imams to do so, and pray to Allah to deliver the Gazans and all the Palestinians from the boot of Israeli tyranny.

]]> By: Irfan http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35328 Irfan Thu, 01 Jan 2009 07:22:19 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35328 Assalamu alaikum, Bosnia is happening again under supervision of US and EU, totally approved genocide is happening again, radovan karadzic and ratko mladic (in this case zionist g'vmt) totally approved by EU and U.S. are doing genocide in Gaza. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/balkans/overview/bosnia.htm" rel="nofollow">short history of Bosnian war</a> Interesting, unlike Bosnia where all Muslim world helped, seems now Muslim world is silent ?! Also in the beggining of the war in Bosnia "peace makers" were pressuring Bosnian Muslims to stop fighting so it will be peace?! The same way Zionists and US want peace when kill all Palestinians. Insha'Allah they will not be successfull. But Bosnian Muslims resist and after that they almost won the war completly and then U.S. and international powers pressure Alija Izetbegovic to sign a Dayton agreement... May Allah help people of Gaza. Assalamu alaikum,

Bosnia is happening again under supervision of US and EU, totally approved genocide is happening again, radovan karadzic and ratko mladic (in this case zionist g’vmt) totally approved by EU and U.S. are doing genocide in Gaza.

short history of Bosnian war

Interesting, unlike Bosnia where all Muslim world helped, seems now Muslim world is silent ?!

Also in the beggining of the war in Bosnia “peace makers” were pressuring Bosnian Muslims to stop fighting so it will be peace?! The same way Zionists and US want peace when kill all Palestinians. Insha’Allah they will not be successfull.

But Bosnian Muslims resist and after that they almost won the war completly and then U.S. and international powers pressure Alija Izetbegovic to sign a Dayton agreement…

May Allah help people of Gaza.

]]> By: darthvaider http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35290 darthvaider Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:10:39 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35290 jazak Allah khayr shaykh yaser for this timely piece. jazak Allah khayr shaykh yaser for this timely piece.

]]> By: AsimG http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35283 AsimG Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:42:12 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/30/israels-message-to-the-world/#comment-35283 I don't understand how they can bomb a MASJID and a University and no one says a thing? I don’t understand how they can bomb a MASJID and a University and no one says a thing?

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