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Israeli war criminals in Gaza using white phosphorus-Boycott Israel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of7DL115ES8

But the real reason I came back to this site (I’ll be honest in saying that I will probably never be back) is to promote a Youtube channel managed by the IDF. Consider it an excellent primary source for information peppered with propaganda.

I think the key operative phrase here is : peppered with propaganda. Though you are too generous. It should be more like a channel DESIGNED with propaganda (in mind).

I mean, would you trust a Hamas site for information? Would any objective party accept that? I don’t think so. So, how the media or any reasonable person could even consider this as being a point of information is beyond me. Instead, it is good for understanding how good propaganda should be designed.

Like the propaganda that Hamas is using civilians as shields (only stated by Israel officials, hardly any neutral source has stated this), except that there is one consistent problem. If you kill the shields, you expect to kill the Hamas dudes too. But there are hardly any militants among those killed, according to neutral sources on the ground! This is called being caught red-handed!

Israel is committing a massacre that is becoming of a genocide. And history will not treat Israel kindly for it, and the amount of hatred, and violence that this will generate towards Israel is far more than it could ever imagine. Even those who were willing to see an Israel side by side a Palestinian state are rethinking their position. Because how could one live next to a terrorist state… and even though America calls Hamas a terrorist organization, I think Hamas is more like a baby-terrorist relative to the mother of all terrorists– the usurper of land and human lives, the Terrorist State of Israel. I will hereafter refer to Israel as TSI, and ask everyone to start using this acronym too!

Rumay wrote: “3. Democracy, rule of law, international law, human rights do not allow reciprocity of more than an eye for an eye, do you believe that Isreal is justified and exempt from this rule?”

To which I say, where did you read this? I think you are completely wrong. Most of the time you can’t even quantify what damage has been done, so how would you even judge what an eye for an eye even means? So yes, I believe Israel and the rest of the world is exempt from this silly rule.

But the real reason I came back to this site (I’ll be honest in saying that I will probably never be back) is to promote a Youtube channel managed by the IDF. Consider it an excellent primary source for information peppered with propaganda. Check out the terrorists launching rockets from a school! Check out how the Mosque explodes not just once, from the Israeli missile, but many time as the weapons stored inside ignite! Then you can maybe reconsider whose hands are stained with civilian blood.

If you think Israel is purposefully attacking citizens of Gaza, then tell me how so few are being killed…

simple, because you deny that the body count is mostly civilians. Israel defies international law by counting policemen as combatants. it counts every man killed as an enemy — just as Pharoah counted every male as his enemy. and i am not alone in disputing Israel’s claims.

here is what you would call the “accidental” killing of civilians: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/world/middleeast/06scene.html?partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

these people have nowhere to run to, no safe haven — because Israel walls them in (and if they left would deny them return), makes it too unsafe even for rescue. Israel created every condition necessary for these civilians to die. sure, the Israeli military exonerates itself with meaningless warnings to civilians who have no means to escape death — but Israel does not thus escape the blame for what amounts to purposeful murder.

ultimately what makes me hate the leaders of Israel is that they (and apparently the Israeli electorate to which they pander) value non-Jewish life less than the dust of Gaza. would Israel send Jewish soldiers to defend Israeli Arabs? would Israel mount such a murderous operation to avenge even one Israeli Arab? to avenge any of the Arabs within the lands they occupy? no. even when Jewish settlers attack Israeli troops, the troops exercise true restraint. because those are the only lives they care about.

Now don’t get me wrong: I commend your efforts to aid the citizens of Gaza as they are in a very difficult situation…

really? then start writing to every elected official you know and protest the prosecution of the Holy Land Foundation — the entire basis of the conviction of that charity was that the money they sent to Palestine assisted hospitals and providers of charity which had links to Hamas. not that even one dollar of charity money was spent on a weapon. not that one dollar of charity aid was used to kill or even slightly scratch one Jew anywhere. these were men and millions of dollars that were devoted to charity.

if you think it is even remotely honest of you to condemn HLF, you cannot in truth deny this: demand that the millions of dollars in money seized from HLF — money contributed by people whose only donor-intent was to help hospitals and needy people in Palestine — that every cent be given immediately to the Muslim-run charities that MM has indicated are giving relief to the people of Gaza.

Let me ask you several questions.

1. You mentioned that Israel has a sophisticated warning system and that is most likely apparent as they have some of the most advanced weapons on earth. My question is that with this sophistication, it cannot defend itself with “anti-Rocket” defense? They have illegal nuclear weapons and they cannot defend against home made rockets through anti rocket defense?

2. Regarding use of disproportionality, If someone threw rocks through your home windows (which could cause a casualty), what would be the first thing you would do? Maybe call the police, move from the place where the rocks are being thrown and go to the authorities to report the case. Or would you take out your sophisticated arsenal of weaponry and indiscreminantly start shooting and killing at the rock thrower, at his house, at his family and then try to make a claim that you are defending yourself and you also claim that you are sorry for killing his family and children, but you were really targetting the rock thrower?

3. Democracy, rule of law, international law, human rights do not allow reciprocity of more than an eye for an eye, do you believe that Isreal is justified and exempt from this rule?

4. If you were a Palistinian who had your land and home stripped from you, then you were confined to a small piece of land stripped of its resources, then you were boycotted and deprived of all the essential needs of a human being, then you were attacked, your children were killed before own eyes by bombs that are internationaly outlawed (uranium depleted, white phosphorus), then I wonder if you would see the situation in the same light? I think every person trying to understand this conflict should consider this and put themselves in the situation to only get a slight glimpse of what these poor victims of a holocaust are going through (and i would say the same for the innocent jewish victims of their own holocaust in germany)

5. I don’t think any country on earth would want to follow the example of Israel..you think that 600 people being killed are so few? The loss of one innocent life is more sacred than the holiest of sanctities, when we become blinded by our aggression, tyranny, we lose sight for value of human life…

I commend your wish for lasting peace as i believe that is what all people of conscience strive for, but as an advice, i remind you that justice is a precondition to peace, so we have to focus and join our efforts on justice in order to arrive at peace..

8. “Only 16 civilians have died due to the small unsophisticated rockets in all these years.”

So you mean to say that while militants in Gaza launch hundreds of rockets into Israel indiscriminately, this can be excused because they are unsophisticated? It is excusable because Israel has a more sophisticated warning system so that Israelis in Sderot have a 15 second warning to run for cover before a rocket strikes? You also mean to imply that Israel’s use of force is disproportionate? So should Israel instead indiscriminately launch rockets, 1 for 1, into Gaza?

So many “Pro-Palestine” people think that the whole solution to the problem is that Israel should drop all “hostile” actions against Gaza. That reminds me of something I read somewhere: If Israel were to drop its weapons, it would be destroyed; yet if Hamas laid down its weapons, there would be peace. Every time Israel has allowed for more freedom in Gaza, it has been confronted with attacks. Likewise, when it takes protective measures that restrict freedom in Gaza, as with the wall, checkpoints, and a tight border, attacks go down. The reason for this is disturbing, but it is not in Israel.

If you think Israel is purposefully attacking citizens of Gaza, then tell me how so few are being killed when Israel is so powerful and sophisticated? The answer is that if Israel were perfect, no innocent civilian in Gaza would be killed. The reason so many civilians are killed is that Hamas uses them as guard, knowing that they will either be spared or that the death of the civilians will help their cause.

Now don’t get me wrong: I commend your efforts to aid the citizens of Gaza as they are in a very difficult situation. But the solution to their plight is not to push Israel diplomatically into a withdrawal with no focus on the real issue. If Palestine wants a long-term peace, they should follow Israel’s example: In the beginning of the country’s history, there were Israeli terrorist groups who attacked the British and Arabs under their own doctrine. When the Israeli government was formed, one of the first things it did was to forcefully disband these groups. If a government is to be legitimate, POLITICAL PARTIES CANNOT HAVE THEIR OWN ARMIES!

I wish the managers of this site and its members the best of luck in aiding Gaza civilians. And I wish for lasting peace, not just for Israel but for Palestine as well.

Here’s an interesting link to a Frontline episode about how Israel is trying to handle its current breed of terrorists, the settlers:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/israel/view/

By: A group of Scholars and callers in Egypt

1/4/2009

All praise is due to Allāh, Lord of the Worlds. There is no deity worthy of worship but Him, the All-Powerful, the Able, the All-Mighty, the Triumphant, the One, the Subduer. Nothing escapes him on the Earth or in the heavens. And may the Blessings and Peace [of Allāh] be upon our Prophet Muhammad, the slave of Allāh and His Messenger, the Imām of the Mujāhidīn and the commander of the conquerors.

Indeed the events occurring now on one of the lands of Islām and the Muslims, in the land of Ghazzah (Gaza) in Palestine the Resistant, from unconcealed transgression and massacres, are spurned by all values and morals, and are rejected by all humanity. [These events] forced those of us who have signed this proclamation – a group of the scholars and callers of our beloved Egypt – to clarify our opinion so as to have an excuse in front of Allāh ‘Azza Wa Jall, and in clarification to the people.

Firstly: Indeed the blessed land of Palestine, which Allāh has blessed in His Book, is an Islāmic land in every sense of the word. Within it was the first of the two Qiblahs, and in it is the second of the two Masjids and the third of the holy sanctuaries, and it was the place of our Messenger’s, صلى الله عليه و سلم, ascension. Therefore, it is not permissible for anyone, whoever he may be, to give up this land, or even a part of it, to the non-Muslims.

سُبْحَانَ الَّذِي أَسْرَى بِعَبْدِهِ لَيْلاً مِّنَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ إِلَى الْمَسْجِدِ الأَقْصَى الَّذِي بَارَكْنَا حَوْلَهُ لِنُرِيَهُ مِنْ آيَاتِنَا إِنَّهُ هُوَ السَّمِيعُ البَصِيرُ

Glorified (and Exalted) is He (Allāh) [above all that (evil) they associate with Him] Who took His slave (Muhammad) for a journey by night from Al-Masjid-al-Harām (at Makkah) to Al-Masjid-al-Aqsā (in Jerusalem), the neighborhood whereof We have blessed, in order that We might show him (Muhammad) of Our Ayāt Verily, He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer [Al-Isrā’; 1]

Secondly: The global zionist movement manifested in the state of Israel, they are the people strongest in enmity towards the believers throughout their history. Their enmity to Allāh and His Prophets and Messengers is overflowing, and they are behind every evil, and behind every corruption. They nullified the covenants and they made the prohibited permissible, and betrayed and made an example of everyone who dealt with them and came close to them. And they usurped the land of Palestine at the expense of its humble people and Muslim inhabitants, with continuous oppressive, transgressive support from the west.

Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the Jews and those who are Al-Mushrikūn [Al-Mā’idah; 82]

And these Israeli zionists are an occupying gang who usurped the land of Palestine, but the rights must be returned to its people no matter the length of the time that has passed, and we will not be pleased with and we will not accept this tyrannical occupation of this Holy Land by this gang of zionists.

Third: Al-Jihād in the Path of Allāh and armed resistance is the strategic option for the return of the usurped land and the plundered rights. The zionists do not know the language of dialogue and do not understand the meaning of peace. Their Manhaj (methodology) is that of killing and causing corruption upon the earth. Therefore, we believe and we are certain that the only language they understand is the language of Jihād, by all of its ways. And Jihād should not be stopped except after the expulsion of the last Zionist from the land of Palestine.

And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war (tanks, planes, missiles, artillery) to threaten the enemy of Allāh and your enemy [Al-Anfāl; 60]

Fourthly: Those who took the path of Jihād and resistance as their path, and carried their souls upon their palms and put forth their martyrs and their wealth and sacrificed what is expensive and dear to them as a price in order to free this land, despite the military apparatus that is possessed by the enemy and despite their criminal offensive power that makes its blind hatred towards everything that is Muslim known, these people are from the Victorious Party by the Permission of Allāh, and they are worthy of support and assistance and aid.

Fifthly: And here we remind and we assert that the role of the masses is in aiding this cause, and their Shar’ī obligation that our Religion has mandated for us is Jihād in the Path of Allāh in every sense of the word, and offering financial aid and boycotting Israel in every possible way, economically, politically, culturally on an equal level, as well as boycotting those who prop up Israel in the East or the West, and rejecting normalization [of relations] in every way. And we assert the prohibition of interacting with the zionist entities and those who prop them up in any of the ways of interaction and normalization.

And it is obligatory for us to stand under His Ta’ālā’s Statement,

So do not become weak (against your enemy), nor be sad, and you will be superior (in victory) if you are indeed (true) believers. If a wound (and killing) has touched you, be sure a similar wound (and killing) has touched the others. And so are the days (good and not so good), We give to men by turns, that Allāh may test those who believe, and that He may take martyrs from among you. And Allāh likes not the Thālimūn (wrong-doers) [Āl-’Imrān; 139-140]

And it is upon the entire Ummah to unify and gather like the heart of one man, everyone undertaking what is obligatory upon him, and leaving all forms of hated difference which hinders Jihād in the Path of Allāh.

وَاعْتَصِمُواْ بِحَبْلِ اللّهِ جَمِيعاً وَلاَ تَفَرَّقُواْ وَاذْكُرُواْ نِعْمَتَ اللّهِ عَلَيْكُمْ إِذْ كُنتُمْ أَعْدَاء فَأَلَّفَ بَيْنَ قُلُوبِكُمْ فَأَصْبَحْتُم بِنِعْمَتِهِ إِخْوَاناً

And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allāh (i.e. this Qur’ān), and be not divided among yourselves, and remember Allāh’s Favor on you, for you were enemies one to another but He joined your hearts together, so that, by His Grace, you became brethren [Āl-’Imrān; 103]

This is a proclamation to the people, and it is upon everyone to shoulder the responsibility. And as for the honored Mujāhidīn in Palestine’s Ghazzah, and in any area of the usurped Muslim lands, then we say to them, indeed you have paid your blood as a tax of faith and honor and nobility, so be steadfast and persevere and have patience, and Allāh is with you and will not make your actions in vain.

الَّذِينَ قَالَ لَهُمُ النَّاسُ إِنَّ النَّاسَ قَدْ جَمَعُواْ لَكُمْ فَاخْشَوْهُمْ فَزَادَهُمْ إِيمَاناً وَقَالُواْ حَسْبُنَا اللّهُ وَنِعْمَ الْوَكِيلُ

Those (i.e. believers) unto whom the people (hypocrites) said, “Verily, the people (pagans) have gathered against you (a great army), therefore, fear them.” But it (only) increased them in Faith, and they said: “Allāh (Alone) is Sufficient for us, and He is the Best Disposer of affairs (for us) [Āl-’Imrān; 173]

The signatories:

1 – Dr. Nasr Farīd Wāsil
2 – Dr. Zaghlūl An-Najjār
3 – Dr. ‘Abdus-Sattār Fat’h-Allāh Sa’īd
4 – Dr. Muhammad ‘Umārah
5 – Dr. Muhammad ‘Abdul-Mun’im Al-Barrī
6 – Dr. Abdul-Fattāh Ash-Shaykh
7 – Dr. Safwat Hijāzī
8 – Shaykh Jamāl Qutb
9 – Shaykh Ahmad Al-Mihlāwī
10 – Dr. Abdul-Halīm ‘Uways
11 – Dr. Muhammad Ra’fat ‘Uthmān
12 – Dr. ‘Abdullāh Barakāt
13 – Dr. ‘Abdullāh Samak
14 – Shaykh Abū Ishāq Al-Huwaynī
15 – Shaykh Hāzim Salāh Abū Ismā’īl
16 – Shaykh Muhammad Jibrīl
17 – Dr. Salāh Sultān
18 – Shaykh Ahmad Halīl
19 – Dr. Muhammad As-Saghīr
20 – Shaykh Sālim Abūl-Futūh
21 – Dr. Ahmad Al-’Assāl
22 – Dr. Hāzim As-Sarsāwī
23 – Dr. ‘Abdur-Rahmān Fawdah
24 – Shaykh Muhammad Mustafā
25 – Dr. Husayn Shajā’ah
26 – Dr. Sālih Hārūn
27 – Shaykh Salāmah ‘Abdul-Qawī
28 – Dr. Jamāl ‘Abdul-Hādī
29 – Dr. Hasan ‘Abdū
30 – Shaykh Muhammad ‘Abdul-Fattāh
31 – Dr. Ahmad Abū Khadījah
32 – Dr. ‘Alā’ As-Sayyid ‘Abdur-Rahīm
33 – Dr. ‘Umar Ibn ‘Abdil-’Azīz
34 – Shaykh Rajab Zakī
35 – Dr. Māzin As-Sarsāwī
36 – Shaykh Ahmad Sabrī
37 – Shaykh Ahmad Al-Juhaynī
38 – Shaykh Mathhar Amīn
39 – Shaykh ‘Alī Abul-Hasan
40 – Shaykh Mustafā Al-Azharī

-Edited. The proclamation speaks for itself.