Comments on: MANA Conference: The Healthy Marriage Community Covenant http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/02/mana-conference-the-healthy-marriage-community-covenant/ Discourses in the Intellectual Traditions, Political Situation, and Social Ethics of Muslim Life Thu, 24 May 2012 00:04:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: abu abdAllah, the Houstonian http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/02/mana-conference-the-healthy-marriage-community-covenant/#comment-33318 abu abdAllah, the Houstonian Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:43:55 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/02/mana-conference-the-healthy-marriage-community-covenant/#comment-33318 bismillah. jazak Allah khayr, Amad. as long as you are bringing up divorce, two more issues to tack on: 6) will pre-marital counseling discuss the seriousness of divorce in Islam as well as the fiqh of it? 7) what will the imams, communities, and couples discuss about the children of failed marriages? child custody disputes? guardians ad litem for family courts? outreach to child protective services, especially if there was domestic violence, alleged or real? bismillah. jazak Allah khayr, Amad. as long as you are bringing up divorce, two more issues to tack on:

6) will pre-marital counseling discuss the seriousness of divorce in Islam as well as the fiqh of it?

7) what will the imams, communities, and couples discuss about the children of failed marriages? child custody disputes? guardians ad litem for family courts? outreach to child protective services, especially if there was domestic violence, alleged or real?

]]> By: imtiaz http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/02/mana-conference-the-healthy-marriage-community-covenant/#comment-33246 imtiaz Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:45:40 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/02/mana-conference-the-healthy-marriage-community-covenant/#comment-33246 This was a great presentation and needed in our community. Maybe ppl like Shaykh Yaser Birjas and others can help ? This was a great presentation and needed in our community. Maybe ppl like Shaykh Yaser Birjas and others can help ?

]]> By: sam http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/02/mana-conference-the-healthy-marriage-community-covenant/#comment-33240 sam Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:58:08 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/02/mana-conference-the-healthy-marriage-community-covenant/#comment-33240 Sometimes i fell that people who have newly found their Islamic calling are more concerned with having four wives and a large family rather than fulfilling their duties towards their present wife and making themselves better muslims so that if the do have a big family they can lead the towards the right path...........May anyone please set this right? Sometimes i fell that people who have newly found their Islamic calling are more concerned with having four wives and a large family rather than fulfilling their duties towards their present wife and making themselves better muslims so that if the do have a big family they can lead the towards the right path………..May anyone please set this right?

]]> By: amirah http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/02/mana-conference-the-healthy-marriage-community-covenant/#comment-33222 amirah Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:20:02 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/12/02/mana-conference-the-healthy-marriage-community-covenant/#comment-33222 salam i like this article and i am glad that someone outside the BAM community sees the issues going on in my community. i am a BAM convert who is now married to a wonderful algerian brother hamdulilah but it was a long journey.... one of the biggest issues in the BAM community is the racism from other muslims from the desi, paki, arab , etc. communities BAM sisters sometimes feel stuck because we want to get married but no one wants to marry a black girl. i have so many sisters from the BAM community who all have stories about wanting to get married but not being able to because brothers outside the community look at them like theyre second class citizens and act like they would rather die..... i have non black friends whos parent tell them marry whoever you want just dont bring home a black guy or girl. even with my husband before we got married everyone told him not to marry me because of my race..... so alot of the time we get stuck stay unmarried until you can find a BAM brother or some other brother brave enough to say hey race doesnt matter or become wife number 2,3,4. now i am not saying this happens to ALL BAM or that all muslim brothers from outside the community are like that but the number of people doing this is so serious its been made into a kutbah not only at my masjid( ISNA in canada) but at many other masjids. anyways sorry about the rant but i think want MANA is doing is a good idea and inshallah their will be other marriage programs out there as well salam

i like this article and i am glad that someone outside the BAM community sees the issues going on in my community. i am a BAM convert who is now married to a wonderful algerian brother hamdulilah but it was a long journey…. one of the biggest issues in the BAM community is the racism from other muslims from the desi, paki, arab , etc. communities BAM sisters sometimes feel stuck because we want to get married but no one wants to marry a black girl. i have so many sisters from the BAM community who all have stories about wanting to get married but not being able to because brothers outside the community look at them like theyre second class citizens and act like they would rather die….. i have non black friends whos parent tell them marry whoever you want just dont bring home a black guy or girl. even with my husband before we got married everyone told him not to marry me because of my race….. so alot of the time we get stuck stay unmarried until you can find a BAM brother or some other brother brave enough to say hey race doesnt matter or become wife number 2,3,4. now i am not saying this happens to ALL BAM or that all muslim brothers from outside the community are like that but the number of people doing this is so serious its been made into a kutbah not only at my masjid( ISNA in canada) but at many other masjids.

anyways sorry about the rant but i think want MANA is doing is a good idea and inshallah their will be other marriage programs out there as well

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