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		<title>By: Viobbyine</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/11/04/elections-2008-open-thread-your-november-4-experiences/#comment-37005</link>
		<dc:creator>Viobbyine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing seems to be easier than seeing someone whom you can help but not helping.
I suggest we start giving it a try. Give love to the ones that need it.
God will appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing seems to be easier than seeing someone whom you can help but not helping.<br />
I suggest we start giving it a try. Give love to the ones that need it.<br />
God will appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: wali</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/11/04/elections-2008-open-thread-your-november-4-experiences/#comment-31504</link>
		<dc:creator>wali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Umm Ismael</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/11/04/elections-2008-open-thread-your-november-4-experiences/#comment-31349</link>
		<dc:creator>Umm Ismael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asslam u alaikum wr wb
It is with interest that I have (tried to) read the many comments on the &quot;American voting Experience&quot;. I am a Pakistani. Many of us are slightly relieved at being free from the likes of Mc Cain. Moreover it is indeed a historic moment when a coloured man is voted in as President of a super power. Many a lesson to be learnt from his attitude.
However please don&#039;t be harsh when Pakistanis seem apprehensive. We have been suffering so much from American foriegn policy that now we are only fearful of what will come next. 
People need to come down with their negative views towards Obama. American has the right to defend itself from harm.

&quot;@Imran, American lives are also important my brother. If someone comes to the US and attacks them or welcomes those that attack the US then the US has the right to go to that country and take care of business. We Muslims live in this country and if someone wants to harm us our government has a job to do. WE have the right to defend ourselves even if that other country is a Muslim country because we are Muslims that live in this country and we want peace just like everyone else.&quot;

Please do NOT assert that innocent civilians living in a world far removed from civilized America were out to attack Americans. I think that is a bit of a stretch.
May ALLAH Guide Obama to wisdom and truth. Ameen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asslam u alaikum wr wb<br />
It is with interest that I have (tried to) read the many comments on the &#8220;American voting Experience&#8221;. I am a Pakistani. Many of us are slightly relieved at being free from the likes of Mc Cain. Moreover it is indeed a historic moment when a coloured man is voted in as President of a super power. Many a lesson to be learnt from his attitude.<br />
However please don&#8217;t be harsh when Pakistanis seem apprehensive. We have been suffering so much from American foriegn policy that now we are only fearful of what will come next.<br />
People need to come down with their negative views towards Obama. American has the right to defend itself from harm.</p>
<p>&#8220;@Imran, American lives are also important my brother. If someone comes to the US and attacks them or welcomes those that attack the US then the US has the right to go to that country and take care of business. We Muslims live in this country and if someone wants to harm us our government has a job to do. WE have the right to defend ourselves even if that other country is a Muslim country because we are Muslims that live in this country and we want peace just like everyone else.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please do NOT assert that innocent civilians living in a world far removed from civilized America were out to attack Americans. I think that is a bit of a stretch.<br />
May ALLAH Guide Obama to wisdom and truth. Ameen.</p>
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		<title>By: muslim</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/11/04/elections-2008-open-thread-your-november-4-experiences/#comment-31235</link>
		<dc:creator>muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May Allah guide all muslims</description>
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		<title>By: h. ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>h. ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to encourage all readers to please sign this letter asking President Elect barack Hussein Obama to  close Guantánamo Bay prison, shut down military commissions, and ban torture.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://closegitmo.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://closegitmo.com/&lt;/a&gt;

Also - for all those obama haters - i wrote up the following: I hope its beneficial and answers most of your concerns about him. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hahmed.com/blog/2008/11/10/why-barack-obama-matters/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hahmed.com/blog/2008/11/10/why-barack-obama-matters/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to encourage all readers to please sign this letter asking President Elect barack Hussein Obama to  close Guantánamo Bay prison, shut down military commissions, and ban torture.</p>
<p><a href="http://closegitmo.com/" rel="nofollow">http://closegitmo.com/</a></p>
<p>Also &#8211; for all those obama haters &#8211; i wrote up the following: I hope its beneficial and answers most of your concerns about him. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.hahmed.com/blog/2008/11/10/why-barack-obama-matters/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hahmed.com/blog/2008/11/10/why-barack-obama-matters/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Umm Reem</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/11/04/elections-2008-open-thread-your-november-4-experiences/#comment-31203</link>
		<dc:creator>Umm Reem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama Shutting down Guantanamo??!!

http://purepundit.com/2008/11/10/obama-planning-us-trials-for-guantanamo-detainees/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama Shutting down Guantanamo??!!</p>
<p><a href="http://purepundit.com/2008/11/10/obama-planning-us-trials-for-guantanamo-detainees/" rel="nofollow">http://purepundit.com/2008/11/10/obama-planning-us-trials-for-guantanamo-detainees/</a></p>
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		<title>By: AbdelRahman</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/11/04/elections-2008-open-thread-your-november-4-experiences/#comment-30925</link>
		<dc:creator>AbdelRahman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, about the duties of Chief of Staff:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Job duties

The roles of the Chief of Staff are both managerial and advisory and can include the following duties, depending on the President&#039;s style of conducting business:[4]

[edit] Managerial

    * Select key White House staff and supervise them
    * Structure the White House staff system
    * Control the flow of people into the Oval Office
    * Manage the flow of information

[edit] Advisory

    * Advise the President on issues of politics, policy and management issues
    * Protect the interests of the President
    * Negotiate with Congress, other members of the executive branch, and extragovernmental political groups to implement the President&#039;s agenda

Some[who?] have suggested that a powerful Chief of Staff with a &quot;hands-off&quot; president (who decides not to become involved in the minutiæ of government), can become a de facto prime minister. Such prime ministers exist in some governmental systems, such as France&#039;s and Russia&#039;s: The prime minister runs the government (operations-wise), while the president remains somewhat aloof from the political process, but personally handling policy matters. Under Ronald Reagan, Donald Regan was seen by many as a prime minister-style Chief of Staff following James Baker. Howard Baker, who succeeded Regan, was critical of this system and what is sometimes known as the &quot;Imperial Presidency.&quot;

By contrast, Andrew Card, President George W. Bush&#039;s first Chief of Staff, was not regarded as being as powerful. Some have speculated that this was due to Card being &quot;overshadowed&quot; by the influence of Karl Rove, the Senior Adviser and Deputy Chief of Staff who was &quot;the architect&quot; of Bush&#039;s political rise.[5] Similarly, President Bill Clinton&#039;s Chiefs of Staff were not particularly powerful.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How does &quot; selecting key White House staff and supervise them, structuring the White House staff system, controlling the flow of people into the Oval Office, and managing the flow of information&quot; not affect the policy of our country??

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Chief_of_Staff#Job_duties</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, about the duties of Chief of Staff:</p>
<blockquote><p>Job duties</p>
<p>The roles of the Chief of Staff are both managerial and advisory and can include the following duties, depending on the President&#8217;s style of conducting business:[4]</p>
<p>[edit] Managerial</p>
<p>    * Select key White House staff and supervise them<br />
    * Structure the White House staff system<br />
    * Control the flow of people into the Oval Office<br />
    * Manage the flow of information</p>
<p>[edit] Advisory</p>
<p>    * Advise the President on issues of politics, policy and management issues<br />
    * Protect the interests of the President<br />
    * Negotiate with Congress, other members of the executive branch, and extragovernmental political groups to implement the President&#8217;s agenda</p>
<p>Some[who?] have suggested that a powerful Chief of Staff with a &#8220;hands-off&#8221; president (who decides not to become involved in the minutiæ of government), can become a de facto prime minister. Such prime ministers exist in some governmental systems, such as France&#8217;s and Russia&#8217;s: The prime minister runs the government (operations-wise), while the president remains somewhat aloof from the political process, but personally handling policy matters. Under Ronald Reagan, Donald Regan was seen by many as a prime minister-style Chief of Staff following James Baker. Howard Baker, who succeeded Regan, was critical of this system and what is sometimes known as the &#8220;Imperial Presidency.&#8221;</p>
<p>By contrast, Andrew Card, President George W. Bush&#8217;s first Chief of Staff, was not regarded as being as powerful. Some have speculated that this was due to Card being &#8220;overshadowed&#8221; by the influence of Karl Rove, the Senior Adviser and Deputy Chief of Staff who was &#8220;the architect&#8221; of Bush&#8217;s political rise.[5] Similarly, President Bill Clinton&#8217;s Chiefs of Staff were not particularly powerful.</p></blockquote>
<p>How does &#8221; selecting key White House staff and supervise them, structuring the White House staff system, controlling the flow of people into the Oval Office, and managing the flow of information&#8221; not affect the policy of our country??</p>
<p>source: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Chief_of_Staff#Job_duties" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Chief_of_Staff#Job_duties</a></p>
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		<title>By: AbdelRahman</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/11/04/elections-2008-open-thread-your-november-4-experiences/#comment-30924</link>
		<dc:creator>AbdelRahman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

AbdelRahman,
Do not repeat lies. He was not an Israeli soldier, but is an American citizen who served in a civilian capacity (interestingly enough, his father was Israeli).

and chief of staff doesn’t touch policy with a ten foot pole! (I checked. *halo*)
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

His father wasn&#039;t merely an Israeli, he was part of a Zionist terrorist organization.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Revelations about Obama&#039;s relationship with Bill Ayers, a Weather Underground domestic terrorist, which dogged him during the final weeks of the campaign trail, pale in significance to his selection of Emanuel, whose father, Benjamin M. Emanuel, was an Irgun member.

Irgun has been labeled a terrorist organization by both The New York Times newspaper and by the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry.

Irgun was closely affiliated with the widely feared hardcore terrorist Stern Gang, an organization that carried out assassinations, train bombings and bombed police stations in an attempt to pave the way for unrestricted immigration of Jews into Palestine. Irgun operated in Palestine between 1931 and 1948.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And he &lt;strong&gt;did&lt;/strong&gt; in the IDF, albeit as a technician, but still carries that IDF attitude with him:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The son of a man who helped carry out this slaughter has now been selected by Obama to be his chief-of-staff. Cries of &quot;sins of the father&quot; lose their gusto when one considers the fact that, after the 1996 re-election of Bill Clinton, Rahm Emanuel &quot;Was so angry at the president&#039;s enemies that he stood up at a celebratory dinner with colleagues from the campaign, grabbed a steak knife and began rattling off a list of betrayers, shouting &#039;Dead! … Dead! … Dead!&#039; and plunging the knife into the table after every name.&quot; Sounds like a nice guy.

Rahm Emanuel is also an enthusiastic supporter of the United States Public Service Academy Act, a lobbying group founded in 2006 in order to promote the foundation of an American public service academy modeled on the military academies - a youth corps whose students would be trained in &quot;civilian internship in the armed forces&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

womp womp</description>
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<p>AbdelRahman,<br />
Do not repeat lies. He was not an Israeli soldier, but is an American citizen who served in a civilian capacity (interestingly enough, his father was Israeli).</p>
<p>and chief of staff doesn’t touch policy with a ten foot pole! (I checked. *halo*)
</p></blockquote>
<p>His father wasn&#8217;t merely an Israeli, he was part of a Zionist terrorist organization.</p>
<blockquote><p>Revelations about Obama&#8217;s relationship with Bill Ayers, a Weather Underground domestic terrorist, which dogged him during the final weeks of the campaign trail, pale in significance to his selection of Emanuel, whose father, Benjamin M. Emanuel, was an Irgun member.</p>
<p>Irgun has been labeled a terrorist organization by both The New York Times newspaper and by the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry.</p>
<p>Irgun was closely affiliated with the widely feared hardcore terrorist Stern Gang, an organization that carried out assassinations, train bombings and bombed police stations in an attempt to pave the way for unrestricted immigration of Jews into Palestine. Irgun operated in Palestine between 1931 and 1948.</p></blockquote>
<p>And he <strong>did</strong> in the IDF, albeit as a technician, but still carries that IDF attitude with him:</p>
<blockquote><p>The son of a man who helped carry out this slaughter has now been selected by Obama to be his chief-of-staff. Cries of &#8220;sins of the father&#8221; lose their gusto when one considers the fact that, after the 1996 re-election of Bill Clinton, Rahm Emanuel &#8220;Was so angry at the president&#8217;s enemies that he stood up at a celebratory dinner with colleagues from the campaign, grabbed a steak knife and began rattling off a list of betrayers, shouting &#8216;Dead! … Dead! … Dead!&#8217; and plunging the knife into the table after every name.&#8221; Sounds like a nice guy.</p>
<p>Rahm Emanuel is also an enthusiastic supporter of the United States Public Service Academy Act, a lobbying group founded in 2006 in order to promote the foundation of an American public service academy modeled on the military academies &#8211; a youth corps whose students would be trained in &#8220;civilian internship in the armed forces&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>womp womp</p>
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		<title>By: Miako</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/11/04/elections-2008-open-thread-your-november-4-experiences/#comment-30890</link>
		<dc:creator>Miako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AbdelRahman,
Do not repeat lies. He was not an Israeli soldier, but is an American citizen who served in a civilian capacity (interestingly enough, his father was Israeli).

and chief of staff doesn&#039;t touch policy with a ten foot pole! (I checked. *halo*)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AbdelRahman,<br />
Do not repeat lies. He was not an Israeli soldier, but is an American citizen who served in a civilian capacity (interestingly enough, his father was Israeli).</p>
<p>and chief of staff doesn&#8217;t touch policy with a ten foot pole! (I checked. *halo*)</p>
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		<title>By: Reem</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/11/04/elections-2008-open-thread-your-november-4-experiences/#comment-30872</link>
		<dc:creator>Reem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>obama&#039;s kids are lucky.. they get to move to the white house... why can&#039;t my dad become president like he said in his class when he was a kid :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obama&#8217;s kids are lucky.. they get to move to the white house&#8230; why can&#8217;t my dad become president like he said in his class when he was a kid :)</p>
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