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	<title>Comments on: Standard Operating Procedure &#8211; New Documentary on Abu Ghraib</title>
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		<title>By: Siraaj</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/11/01/standard-operating-procedure-new-documentary-on-abu-ghraib/#comment-30155</link>
		<dc:creator>Siraaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Putting it on the soldiers allows them to say that this isn&#039;t policy but rogues acting against policy and subject to public disciplining.  To put it at the level of the higher ups would lead US leaders to have to go on trial for war crimes in the hague (which at a minimum at to happen).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putting it on the soldiers allows them to say that this isn&#8217;t policy but rogues acting against policy and subject to public disciplining.  To put it at the level of the higher ups would lead US leaders to have to go on trial for war crimes in the hague (which at a minimum at to happen).</p>
<p>Siraaj</p>
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		<title>By: mulsimah</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/11/01/standard-operating-procedure-new-documentary-on-abu-ghraib/#comment-30153</link>
		<dc:creator>mulsimah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its probly ten timz worse then they say bc we are only hearing one side of the story and not the story of the victims</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its probly ten timz worse then they say bc we are only hearing one side of the story and not the story of the victims</p>
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		<title>By: Dawud Israel</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/11/01/standard-operating-procedure-new-documentary-on-abu-ghraib/#comment-30142</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawud Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the rest of the iceberg: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/philip_zimbardo_on_the_psychology_of_evil.html

You guys should think about posting this as well since unlike the other pieces, it&#039;s from the psychologist who discovered HOW these things came to be and WHAT the dynamic was. He studied this stuff even before Abu Ghraib and is the academic authority who interviewed and researched on how Abu Ghraib came to be such a freakshow. 

You can also check out his book: The Lucifer Effect (Philip Zimbardo) 
Watch that short video for a basic overview. 

This is important because it&#039;s more than just a narration of tragic events but also how to deal and prevent this all. Or any other massacre or tragedy for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the rest of the iceberg: <a href="http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/philip_zimbardo_on_the_psychology_of_evil.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/philip_zimbardo_on_the_psychology_of_evil.html</a></p>
<p>You guys should think about posting this as well since unlike the other pieces, it&#8217;s from the psychologist who discovered HOW these things came to be and WHAT the dynamic was. He studied this stuff even before Abu Ghraib and is the academic authority who interviewed and researched on how Abu Ghraib came to be such a freakshow. </p>
<p>You can also check out his book: The Lucifer Effect (Philip Zimbardo)<br />
Watch that short video for a basic overview. </p>
<p>This is important because it&#8217;s more than just a narration of tragic events but also how to deal and prevent this all. Or any other massacre or tragedy for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: bintwadee3</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/11/01/standard-operating-procedure-new-documentary-on-abu-ghraib/#comment-30139</link>
		<dc:creator>bintwadee3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Astaghfirullaah. May Allaah forgive them and have Mercy on them, or may their abode be a fiery one. Ameen.

Notice how that *insert adjective* Sabrina Harman is found &lt;strong&gt;GUILTY&lt;/strong&gt; on accounts of:
&lt;strong&gt;Conspiracy&lt;/strong&gt;:
the act of conspiring; an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot; a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose; an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act; any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result.  
&lt;strong&gt;Dereliction &lt;/strong&gt;of DUTY:
deliberate or conscious neglect; negligence; delinquency: &lt;em&gt;dereliction of duty&lt;/em&gt;. 
&lt;strong&gt;Maltreatment &lt;/strong&gt;of DETAINEES
1)to treat or handle badly, cruelly, or roughly; abuse: &lt;em&gt;to maltreat a prisoner&lt;/em&gt; ; to treat in a rough or cruel way; abuse; cruel or inhumane treatment

And what was her punishment? 6 months in prison and a bad conduct mischarge. That&#039;s it. Only 6 months and a &lt;em&gt;slap on the wrist&lt;/em&gt;.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Harman (Basic info on her)
&quot;Sabrina Harman was convicted on six of the seven counts on May 16, 2005 with an acquittal on one of the maltreatment charges. A military jury of four Army officers and four senior enlisted soldiers deliberated for about 3½ hours before returning their decision. They found her guilty on one count of conspiracy to maltreat detainees, four counts of maltreating detainees and one count of dereliction of duty.

The jury acquitted Harman on one maltreatment count that accused her of photographing a group of Iraqi detainees who were forced by prison guards to masturbate in public. This acquittal was due to the testimony of one of Harman’s co-defendants who established the fact that she was not present when that incident occurred. The jury also found that she did not commit two of the nine acts that were part of the dereliction charge, but she was convicted of the overall offense.

Harman was sentenced to six months in prison with credit for 51 days already served and a bad conduct discharge. She reportedly showed no reaction while the jury foreman read each of the verdicts, and she left the building without offering any comments to the press.&quot;

I wonder if any (or posssibly &lt;em&gt;how many&lt;/em&gt;) of the military jury was part of the higher up chain of command.

Something I just came across: Errol Morris wrote in the New York Times about the notorious photo of Harman and the murdered man. Check it out: http://morris.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/19/the-most-curious-thing/

Also... Muslims always get the &quot;if you guys are against terrorists, why doesn&#039;t anyone come out and say it? Why doesn&#039;t anyone go on tv and condemn these acts of terror? Why don&#039;t you demand the Islamist governments to turn these Jihadists in?&quot;
My question to the American public is the same. Why did an extremely minute portion of the American economy express &lt;strong&gt;outrage&lt;/strong&gt; while the majority (seemed) &lt;em&gt;indifferent&lt;/em&gt;? Why did very few &lt;strong&gt;condemn&lt;/strong&gt; them? Why did they not &lt;strong&gt;demand&lt;/strong&gt; the officers be jailed for life or possibly hung for their war crimes? Why they did not &lt;strong&gt;demand&lt;/strong&gt; further investigations?

Hypocrisy from a people who scream &quot;life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness&quot;. I remind you these are the inalienable rights of man. The keyword here being man.

Not country. Not nation. Not league.

&lt;strong&gt;Man.&lt;/strong&gt;

Let&#039;s digg it up folks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astaghfirullaah. May Allaah forgive them and have Mercy on them, or may their abode be a fiery one. Ameen.</p>
<p>Notice how that *insert adjective* Sabrina Harman is found <strong>GUILTY</strong> on accounts of:<br />
<strong>Conspiracy</strong>:<br />
the act of conspiring; an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot; a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose; an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act; any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result.<br />
<strong>Dereliction </strong>of DUTY:<br />
deliberate or conscious neglect; negligence; delinquency: <em>dereliction of duty</em>.<br />
<strong>Maltreatment </strong>of DETAINEES<br />
1)to treat or handle badly, cruelly, or roughly; abuse: <em>to maltreat a prisoner</em> ; to treat in a rough or cruel way; abuse; cruel or inhumane treatment</p>
<p>And what was her punishment? 6 months in prison and a bad conduct mischarge. That&#8217;s it. Only 6 months and a <em>slap on the wrist</em>.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Harman" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Harman</a> (Basic info on her)<br />
&#8220;Sabrina Harman was convicted on six of the seven counts on May 16, 2005 with an acquittal on one of the maltreatment charges. A military jury of four Army officers and four senior enlisted soldiers deliberated for about 3½ hours before returning their decision. They found her guilty on one count of conspiracy to maltreat detainees, four counts of maltreating detainees and one count of dereliction of duty.</p>
<p>The jury acquitted Harman on one maltreatment count that accused her of photographing a group of Iraqi detainees who were forced by prison guards to masturbate in public. This acquittal was due to the testimony of one of Harman’s co-defendants who established the fact that she was not present when that incident occurred. The jury also found that she did not commit two of the nine acts that were part of the dereliction charge, but she was convicted of the overall offense.</p>
<p>Harman was sentenced to six months in prison with credit for 51 days already served and a bad conduct discharge. She reportedly showed no reaction while the jury foreman read each of the verdicts, and she left the building without offering any comments to the press.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wonder if any (or posssibly <em>how many</em>) of the military jury was part of the higher up chain of command.</p>
<p>Something I just came across: Errol Morris wrote in the New York Times about the notorious photo of Harman and the murdered man. Check it out: <a href="http://morris.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/19/the-most-curious-thing/" rel="nofollow">http://morris.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/19/the-most-curious-thing/</a></p>
<p>Also&#8230; Muslims always get the &#8220;if you guys are against terrorists, why doesn&#8217;t anyone come out and say it? Why doesn&#8217;t anyone go on tv and condemn these acts of terror? Why don&#8217;t you demand the Islamist governments to turn these Jihadists in?&#8221;<br />
My question to the American public is the same. Why did an extremely minute portion of the American economy express <strong>outrage</strong> while the majority (seemed) <em>indifferent</em>? Why did very few <strong>condemn</strong> them? Why did they not <strong>demand</strong> the officers be jailed for life or possibly hung for their war crimes? Why they did not <strong>demand</strong> further investigations?</p>
<p>Hypocrisy from a people who scream &#8220;life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness&#8221;. I remind you these are the inalienable rights of man. The keyword here being man.</p>
<p>Not country. Not nation. Not league.</p>
<p><strong>Man.</strong></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s digg it up folks!</p>
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		<title>By: abu abdAllah, the Houstonian</title>
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		<dc:creator>abu abdAllah, the Houstonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 08:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>innalhamdolillah. bismillah.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>innalhamdolillah. bismillah.</p>
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