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	<title>Comments on: Insider Take on the Karachi Kids Fiasco</title>
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		<title>By: fais</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/24/insider-take-on-the-karachi-kids-fiasco/#comment-29833</link>
		<dc:creator>fais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael strikes upon a very valuable point. Ignorance is very prevalent in our our deen... and it is spreading. None of us can deny our ummah as a whole is in a sad, desperate state of affair, as the uneducated and the illiterate comprise our teachers and rulers. We will never reach the pinnacle of greatness as we once did unless we combat this every growing problem. Take Michael&#039;s point to heart my muslim brothers and sisters,  send your kids to jamia binoria! It is a very practical solution which has proven time and again to be a very successful , (i mean... check out our imam yall!) Teach our kids deen the best way, so they can learn, implement and teach others!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael strikes upon a very valuable point. Ignorance is very prevalent in our our deen&#8230; and it is spreading. None of us can deny our ummah as a whole is in a sad, desperate state of affair, as the uneducated and the illiterate comprise our teachers and rulers. We will never reach the pinnacle of greatness as we once did unless we combat this every growing problem. Take Michael&#8217;s point to heart my muslim brothers and sisters,  send your kids to jamia binoria! It is a very practical solution which has proven time and again to be a very successful , (i mean&#8230; check out our imam yall!) Teach our kids deen the best way, so they can learn, implement and teach others!</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/24/insider-take-on-the-karachi-kids-fiasco/#comment-29830</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha Wth is wrong with u dude?

Every religion, culture, race of people have sinners and evil people.

Doesn&#039;t mean you can stereotype the whole population....unless your completely ignorant...In which case go ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha Wth is wrong with u dude?</p>
<p>Every religion, culture, race of people have sinners and evil people.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t mean you can stereotype the whole population&#8230;.unless your completely ignorant&#8230;In which case go ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more for good measure.

The accounts are disturbing: beatings, rape and imprisonment with shackles and leg irons. Abuse accusations from hundreds of children sent to study at Islamic schools are prompting growing calls from parents and rights groups for a full-scale investigation.

But officials have moved slowly and cautiously in looking into the charges of mistreatment in Koranic schools, or madrasas – pointing to a paradox across much of the Muslim world: It’s often easier to tackle Islamic militants than to confront the cultural taboo on publicly airing alleged sex crimes and challenging influential clerics.

Still, if Islamic institutions ever face a reckoning over sexual abuse – such as the Roman Catholic upheavals in recent years – it could begin in Pakistan, where institutions already face unprecedented scrutiny by anti-terrorism agents.

“We are forcing people to look this problem in the eye,” said Zia Ahmed Awan, whose group Madadgaar, or Helper, compiles reports of sexual abuse of children in Pakistan. “It is not anti-Muslim. It is not anti-cleric. We are looking out for the most vulnerable in society.”

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/oct/09/news/adfg-abuse9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more for good measure.</p>
<p>The accounts are disturbing: beatings, rape and imprisonment with shackles and leg irons. Abuse accusations from hundreds of children sent to study at Islamic schools are prompting growing calls from parents and rights groups for a full-scale investigation.</p>
<p>But officials have moved slowly and cautiously in looking into the charges of mistreatment in Koranic schools, or madrasas – pointing to a paradox across much of the Muslim world: It’s often easier to tackle Islamic militants than to confront the cultural taboo on publicly airing alleged sex crimes and challenging influential clerics.</p>
<p>Still, if Islamic institutions ever face a reckoning over sexual abuse – such as the Roman Catholic upheavals in recent years – it could begin in Pakistan, where institutions already face unprecedented scrutiny by anti-terrorism agents.</p>
<p>“We are forcing people to look this problem in the eye,” said Zia Ahmed Awan, whose group Madadgaar, or Helper, compiles reports of sexual abuse of children in Pakistan. “It is not anti-Muslim. It is not anti-cleric. We are looking out for the most vulnerable in society.”</p>
<p><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/oct/09/news/adfg-abuse9" rel="nofollow">http://articles.latimes.com/2005/oct/09/news/adfg-abuse9</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Pakistani minister has revealed hundreds of cases of alleged child sex abuse at Islamic schools, or madrassas.

There were 500 complaints this year of abuse allegedly committed by clerics, Aamer Liaquat Hussain, a minister in the religious affairs department, said.

That compares with 2,000 last year, but as yet there have been no successful prosecutions, Mr Hussain told the BBC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4084951.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Pakistani minister has revealed hundreds of cases of alleged child sex abuse at Islamic schools, or madrassas.</p>
<p>There were 500 complaints this year of abuse allegedly committed by clerics, Aamer Liaquat Hussain, a minister in the religious affairs department, said.</p>
<p>That compares with 2,000 last year, but as yet there have been no successful prosecutions, Mr Hussain told the BBC.<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4084951.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4084951.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/24/insider-take-on-the-karachi-kids-fiasco/#comment-29794</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont turn a blind eye to injustice:

&quot;In this lane itself, there are at least six madrassas,&quot; said Abdul Waheed Khan, founder and director of the Bright Educational Society, a non-profit educational institution in Qasba Colony, a Pashtun-dominated settlement in Karachi.

In 1990, Khan enrolled in a madrassa for one year to get a taste of life on the inside.

&quot;I came out of it, and I thought, `What kind of life is this for little children?&#039; They could not play or enjoy their lives. I saw sexual abuse and rape, and the children were learning by rote from teachers who were themselves uneducated.&quot;

http://povertynewsblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/pakistans-madrassas-thriving-amid.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont turn a blind eye to injustice:</p>
<p>&#8220;In this lane itself, there are at least six madrassas,&#8221; said Abdul Waheed Khan, founder and director of the Bright Educational Society, a non-profit educational institution in Qasba Colony, a Pashtun-dominated settlement in Karachi.</p>
<p>In 1990, Khan enrolled in a madrassa for one year to get a taste of life on the inside.</p>
<p>&#8220;I came out of it, and I thought, `What kind of life is this for little children?&#8217; They could not play or enjoy their lives. I saw sexual abuse and rape, and the children were learning by rote from teachers who were themselves uneducated.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://povertynewsblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/pakistans-madrassas-thriving-amid.html" rel="nofollow">http://povertynewsblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/pakistans-madrassas-thriving-amid.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: LearningArabic</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/24/insider-take-on-the-karachi-kids-fiasco/#comment-29777</link>
		<dc:creator>LearningArabic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Post Shaykh Abdul Nasir,

I saw this video a long time ago as many of my teachers in California also studied at Jamia Binoria. They also told me about many of the misconceptions that were portrayed in Imran Raza&#039;s video. If anything, Jamia Binoria can be a little too chill at times.

BTW Shaykh, I think I know your friend with the elaborate fish tank, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Post Shaykh Abdul Nasir,</p>
<p>I saw this video a long time ago as many of my teachers in California also studied at Jamia Binoria. They also told me about many of the misconceptions that were portrayed in Imran Raza&#8217;s video. If anything, Jamia Binoria can be a little too chill at times.</p>
<p>BTW Shaykh, I think I know your friend with the elaborate fish tank, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Taha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This issue is pointless to bring up. Michael how many madrassas have you been to in pakistan and have seen first hand abuse. Please do not compare institutions abroad to those in western countries. They are far better and have centuries of experience compared to their western counterpart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This issue is pointless to bring up. Michael how many madrassas have you been to in pakistan and have seen first hand abuse. Please do not compare institutions abroad to those in western countries. They are far better and have centuries of experience compared to their western counterpart.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/24/insider-take-on-the-karachi-kids-fiasco/#comment-29653</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>British madrassa have nothing to do with the Binoria (located in Karachi, Pakistan, in case you thought I didn&#039;t know) but there is more than enough evidence of similar treatment of children in madrassas in Pakistan and other places.  They are easily discoverable, if you wanted to find them (but I suspect that you would rather ignore this crime against children).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>British madrassa have nothing to do with the Binoria (located in Karachi, Pakistan, in case you thought I didn&#8217;t know) but there is more than enough evidence of similar treatment of children in madrassas in Pakistan and other places.  They are easily discoverable, if you wanted to find them (but I suspect that you would rather ignore this crime against children).</p>
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		<title>By: AbdulNasir Jangda</title>
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		<dc:creator>AbdulNasir Jangda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shawn:

What your cousins have told you is the truth. I referenced the restaurant in the article, and as I said, its very nice. Transportation with a driver is provided for the foreign students. There is a dry cleaning and laundry service on the premises. They have cooks and janitors at the school. There is an internet cafe on site, and now they provide connections to the rooms. I have a friend who even had an elaborate aquarium with exotic fish in it! Now does that sound anything like the school the documentary depicts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shawn:</p>
<p>What your cousins have told you is the truth. I referenced the restaurant in the article, and as I said, its very nice. Transportation with a driver is provided for the foreign students. There is a dry cleaning and laundry service on the premises. They have cooks and janitors at the school. There is an internet cafe on site, and now they provide connections to the rooms. I have a friend who even had an elaborate aquarium with exotic fish in it! Now does that sound anything like the school the documentary depicts?</p>
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		<title>By: fais</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/24/insider-take-on-the-karachi-kids-fiasco/#comment-29626</link>
		<dc:creator>fais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, what do british madrasas have to do with binoria? Do you even know what country jamia binoria is located in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, what do british madrasas have to do with binoria? Do you even know what country jamia binoria is located in?</p>
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