The least a leader or someone professing leadership, or someone claiming to speak for the masses is to be like them or similar to them.

As far as I know flaunting your sins is not an islaamic concept at all. You can read her biography if you would like to know but it is a well known fact that her support of israeli apartheid stems from the fact that she is cohabiting outside of marriage with a “lover” who happens to be Jewish.

So, no she does not speak for me and “others like me” as you like to call it.

We follow islaam as much as we can: pray, fast, charity, ramadhaan, furthermore we do as the wives of the prophet did and take their examples as the best example by do covering our hair- as this act of ordained modesty is not just a part of Islaamic scholarship and tradition but indeed has remnants from the past traditions of Prophet Moses and Jesus’ laws and rulings.

SImilarly, we get married. We do not date….or drink…. or insult the Prophet.

Qur’aan that you are quoting, I would suggest you read about the verses that talk about hypocrites.

So as limited in our knowledge, humans are we do have to make judgements about people in the world when we are deciding who we listen.

And you do not think that Muslims advised her sincerly in the past?
For sure, I am sure they did.

But you know she wouldnt get that much attention had she been writing a book on “The Trouble with Foreign Policy in USA”

rather she spoke about Islaam…. and landed herself a special Oprah recognition.

articulation, being able to debate, self appointed leadership……they bring in the money yes….truth?……..well you tell me…..

To Qas,

You forget they attacked Irshad and me and not the other way around. I did not do takfir or insult them, but they have.

The truth hurts doesn’t it, especially when it’s rebounded? In the same way I’d like you to look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself, are Suhail (and others) who are calling another Muslim, Kafir are they behaving as Muslims? They are ‘so-called’ Muslims because they brag about their faith. They can’t be bothered to read and practice the Quran verses or understand that doing takfir can be just as sinful on them and they may be held accountable on the Day of resurrection for it.

Irshad has the right to speak freely according to Islam, and has the right to participate in debates, and all of you should stop judging her as if you are angels. You do not have to believe her but you also do not have to insult anyone and drive them further away from the deen. If you had bothered to listen to the lecture she was standing up for ordinary mainstream Muslims like you and me. Those of you who were so busy insulting you missed that Dhalia and Irshad were saying almost the same things. I am glad Dhalia shook her hand as clearly Irshad was grateful in meeting her. So learn a lesson and be like Dhalia and pray for Irshad that Allah keeps her guided and on the straight path, because the Non-Muslims like listening to someone who can debate well. Instead of finding faults, search for the cure from homosexuality, through studying Islamic Psychology and Counseling.

However, I think the first thing most of you who attack others need to do is understand the English language and go back to school, then to an Islamic centre to learn Islamic ADAB and the ethics of disagreement in Islam before preaching to others about their lack of Faith and education.

Narrated ‘Umar bin Al-Khattab:

People were (sometimes) judged by the revealing of a Divine Inspiration during the lifetime of Allah’s Apostle but now there is no longer any more (new revelation). Now we judge you by the deeds you practice publicly, so we will trust and favor the one who does good deeds in front of us, and we will not call him to account about what he is really doing in secret, for Allah will judge him for that; but we will not trust or believe the one who presents to us with an evil deed even if he claims that his intentions were good.

Suhail are you God to pass judgment on other Muslims? What is your first pillar in Islam? Let me answer for you, to believe in the Oneness of Allah, that there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is His messenger. Irshad is your sister in faith as she testifies there is no God but Allah and she believes the same creed you do. However if you and your friends keep up with your takfir, insults, backbiting and slandering, hate mongering, soon, you will have not only Irshad leaving Islam but also other decent believing Muslim Brothers and Sisters as well (including those wearing the headscarf). Now surely you don’t want the sin of sending other Muslims astray to amount on you on the day of judgement do you? I suggest you and Gohar grow up and start practicing your faith, be real men instead of mice and stop this chauvinism and picking on the weaker sex, women who think differently from you.

If you really want to do something for Islam, I suggest you start with the basics and read the Quran fully, comprehend it’s meaning in it’s entirety, read the seera of Prophet Muhammad and practice your Islam like good Muslims. Instead of growing a superiority complex, grow a tree of taqwa whose fruits would benefit other living creatures.

Oh, and btw these verses still apply to you:

Qur’an 24:23

Those who slander chaste women, indiscreet but believing,
are cursed in this life and in the Hereafter:
for them is a grievous Penalty,-

Qur’an 49:12
O ye who believe! avoid suspicion as much (as possible):
for suspicion in some cases is a sin:
and spy not on each other nor speak ill of each other behind their backs.
Would any of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother?
Nay ye would abhor it…but fear Allah:
for Allah is Oft-Returning Most Merciful..]

Qur’an 2:256
There is no compulsion in religion.
The right direction is henceforth distinct from error.
And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped
a firm handhold which will never break.
Allah is Hearer, Knower.

And nobody is talking about her dressing sense. She has much bigger problems than dressing. That is the least of the concern.

She ridicules Quran, Prophet(SAW), Sahaba and the salaf. If you feel problem with our post Hafsa then don’t post it is that simple but she is a Kafir and as is his other crony Salman Rushdie.