Comments on: CIC Vs. Maclean’s: The Most Embarrassing Episode in the Canadian Muslim Community’s History http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/ Discourses in the Intellectual Traditions, Political Situation, and Social Ethics of Muslim Life Wed, 23 May 2012 17:43:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Top 10 Posts of 2008 on MuslimMatters.org | MuslimMatters.org http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-35355 Top 10 Posts of 2008 on MuslimMatters.org | MuslimMatters.org Thu, 01 Jan 2009 18:33:20 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-35355 [...] CIC Vs. Maclean’s: The Most Embarrassing Episode in the Canadian Muslim Community’s History - AnonyMouse [...] [...] CIC Vs. Maclean’s: The Most Embarrassing Episode in the Canadian Muslim Community’s History – AnonyMouse [...]

]]> By: abu abdAllah, the Houstonian http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30966 abu abdAllah, the Houstonian Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:35:47 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30966 bismillah. joe, i'm sorry i don't think i have read any of your other comments here, but it's a sad fact that a lot of threads get hijacked by a small group of people who do nothing but rip into other participants. here's a thread with over 130 comments, and roughly 10% of them come from the person you identify. that statistic would be laudable if the comments and the responses to them were (a) civil, (b) scholarly, or (c) beneficial. but generally, that has not been the case. the best guidance is from Allah, and He commends the believers to speak words of peace in these situations and then move on. bismillah. joe, i’m sorry i don’t think i have read any of your other comments here, but it’s a sad fact that a lot of threads get hijacked by a small group of people who do nothing but rip into other participants. here’s a thread with over 130 comments, and roughly 10% of them come from the person you identify. that statistic would be laudable if the comments and the responses to them were (a) civil, (b) scholarly, or (c) beneficial.

but generally, that has not been the case.

the best guidance is from Allah, and He commends the believers to speak words of peace in these situations and then move on.

]]> By: Joe Mama http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30960 Joe Mama Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:43:30 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30960 I'd like to add another embarassing moment in Canadian Muslim History: DrM is spewing bile at relatively passive visitors like me on the MuslimMatters website and nary a regular here bothers to call him out for his repulsive conduct. I’d like to add another embarassing moment in Canadian Muslim History:

DrM is spewing bile at relatively passive visitors like me on the MuslimMatters website and nary a regular here bothers to call him out for his repulsive conduct.

]]> By: DrM http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30580 DrM Wed, 05 Nov 2008 03:59:53 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30580 Wrong as usual, wakey. The only vile thing here is your Judeofascist mindset which so desperately uses a murdered Somali as a crutch in your petty hatred of Islam, this after being refuted on all other points, including support for that charlatan Steyn. The Daily Mail? The third rate British tabloid known for its right wing propaganda, with a history of supporting Nazism and Fascism. LoL! Drop the act, you don't give a damn about a Somali(unless killed by an "islamist") any more then a Palestinian. Not a word about the Somali woman raped by 12 occupying Ethiopian soldiers(they weren't Muslims so it doesnt count). Invade a country, destroy its infrastructure, kill as many of its people, let war lords run the show but blame the religion of the condition of the people. Typical judeofascists logic as expected from vile AskheNAZIs. So you're not a racist b/c Muslims aren't a race? Insistence that Islam isn't a race and therefore representations of Islam cannot be racist is disingenuous rubbish. Religion is not only about faith but also about identity, background and culture, and Muslims are overwhelmingly non-white. In the mind of the hate mongers, Islam is a religion of non-whites and white race traitors. They see black skin and head scarves the same way. Being Jewish used to be simply a religious identity. With the rise of capitalism, it was transmuted into a racial one. What we are seeing today is the opposite process with Islam. If we must be so asinine as to insist upon using skin color as a determinant of race, I would ask why the Muslims represented in Islamophobic filth never EVER look like Indonesian Muslims, even though it is the most populous Muslim country on the planet. The reason is simple: Muslims are seen and stereotyped as a “race,” especially as dark skinned, unkempt Arabs and Pakistanis. Its obvious your projecting that depleted askheNAZI mindset of yours again. Judaism sounds more like an ideology given that you call your self a "Jewish atheist" and a typical Zionist clinging on to some notion that God is your real estate agent. Zionism is a racist & an anti-semite ideology. Zionism was a curious offshoot of racial anti-Semitism. The man who was supposed to replace Herzl at the head of the World Zionist Organization, world famous author Max Nordau, On 21 December 1903 Nordau gave an interview to Eduard Drumont’s rabid anti-Semitic newspaper, La Libre Parole, in which he said that Zionism wasn’t a question of religion, but exclusively of race, and “there is no one with whom I am in greater agreement on this point than M. Drumont”. Such Chutzpah! I've been told there are many "good" Israelis trying to help and many want peace and many are moderate! Now may I ask why we only get the extreme extremes of the filthiest creatures that had ever walked the earth on this blog? I wonder! Where are the intelligent ones who are genuinely interested in any sort of dialogue or debate without the hasbara BS and the racist Anti- Arab sentiments, which is by the way the only subsisting form of Anti-Semitism that is widely spread? Where are they? I suspect that they do not exist. Get back to when you, Steyn, and the rest of the Sabbos Goyim find those Iraqi WMDs, putz. Wrong as usual, wakey. The only vile thing here is your Judeofascist mindset which so desperately uses a murdered Somali as a crutch in your petty hatred of Islam, this after being refuted on all other points, including support for that charlatan Steyn. The Daily Mail? The third rate British tabloid known for its right wing propaganda, with a history of supporting Nazism and Fascism. LoL! Drop the act, you don’t give a damn about a Somali(unless killed by an “islamist”) any more then a Palestinian. Not a word about the Somali woman raped by 12 occupying Ethiopian soldiers(they weren’t Muslims so it doesnt count). Invade a country, destroy its infrastructure, kill as many of its people, let war lords run the show but blame the religion of the condition of the people. Typical judeofascists logic as expected from vile AskheNAZIs.
So you’re not a racist b/c Muslims aren’t a race? Insistence that Islam isn’t a race and therefore representations of Islam cannot be racist is disingenuous rubbish. Religion is not only about faith but also about identity, background and culture, and Muslims are overwhelmingly non-white. In the mind of the hate mongers, Islam is a religion of non-whites and white race traitors. They see black skin and head scarves the same way. Being Jewish used to be simply a religious identity. With the rise of capitalism, it was transmuted into a racial one. What we are seeing today is the opposite process with Islam. If we must be so asinine as to insist upon using skin color as a determinant of race, I would ask why the Muslims represented in Islamophobic filth never EVER look like Indonesian Muslims, even though it is the most populous Muslim country on the planet. The reason is simple: Muslims are seen and stereotyped as a “race,” especially as dark skinned, unkempt Arabs and Pakistanis. Its obvious your projecting that depleted askheNAZI mindset of yours again. Judaism sounds more like an ideology given that you call your self a “Jewish atheist” and a typical Zionist clinging on to some notion that God is your real estate agent. Zionism is a racist & an anti-semite ideology. Zionism was a curious offshoot of racial anti-Semitism. The man who was supposed to replace Herzl at the head of the World Zionist Organization, world famous author Max Nordau, On 21 December 1903 Nordau gave an interview to Eduard Drumont’s rabid anti-Semitic newspaper, La Libre Parole, in which he said that Zionism wasn’t a question of religion, but exclusively of race, and “there is no one with whom I am in greater agreement on this point than M. Drumont”. Such Chutzpah!
I’ve been told there are many “good” Israelis trying to help and many want peace and many are moderate! Now may I ask why we only get the extreme extremes of the filthiest creatures that had ever walked the earth on this blog?
I wonder!
Where are the intelligent ones who are genuinely interested in any sort of dialogue or debate without the hasbara BS and the racist Anti- Arab sentiments, which is by the way the only subsisting form of Anti-Semitism that is widely spread?
Where are they? I suspect that they do not exist.
Get back to when you, Steyn, and the rest of the Sabbos Goyim find those Iraqi WMDs, putz.

]]> By: DrM http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30495 DrM Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:19:50 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30495 @Joey Mama Thanks for confirming that you suffer from Shabbos Goyism. Pathetic, but amusing to see how Zionism owns you goyim. Easy on the "Jihad Watch" aka "JewHad watch" kool iad. @Wakey wakey, Wrong on all counts, putz. Politicizing rape and then pretending to care? What a low life you are. It is not Islam, but the lawlessness brought about the invasion of Somalia by Uncle Sam's Ethiopians proxies. I've already explained this before but being the racist khazarite that you are, you just can't let go of the spin. A crime happens anywhere in the Islamic world, and you pond scum stand ever ready to blame Islam. The world of course waking up to the very real threat which is posed by East European derived AskheNAZI terrorists. A century of terror and mass murder in the Middle East in the name of Zionism, which is not only a disease tormenting and decimating the Palestinian people, but also a cancer affecting Judaism. No more political correctness for racist scoundrels pretending to be eternal victims, despite the fact that doing so may land a few in jail. Speaking of idiotic Jewish diatribes, the funniest thing I read this week was that Obama is the secret love child of Malcolm X, according to Pamela Gellar of "Atlast Shrugs" fame. In 1935 an American, Ben Frommer, a writer for the ultraright Zionist-Revisionists, could declare of no less than 16 million of his fellow Jews that: "The fact is undeniable that the Jews collectively are unhealthy and neurotic. Those professional Jews who, wounded to the quick, indignantly deny this truth are the greatest enemies of their race, for they thereby lead them to search for false solutions, or at most palliatives". What chutzpah! Get back to me when you find those Iraqi WMDs, Shlomo. @Joey Mama
Thanks for confirming that you suffer from Shabbos Goyism. Pathetic, but amusing to see how Zionism owns you goyim. Easy on the “Jihad Watch” aka “JewHad watch” kool iad.

@Wakey wakey,
Wrong on all counts, putz. Politicizing rape and then pretending to care? What a low life you are. It is not Islam, but the lawlessness brought about the invasion of Somalia by Uncle Sam’s Ethiopians proxies. I’ve already explained this before but being the racist khazarite that you are, you just can’t let go of the spin. A crime happens anywhere in the Islamic world, and you pond scum stand ever ready to blame Islam. The world of course waking up to the very real threat which is posed by East European derived AskheNAZI terrorists. A century of terror and mass murder in the Middle East in the name of Zionism, which is not only a disease tormenting and decimating the Palestinian people, but also a cancer affecting Judaism. No more political correctness for racist scoundrels pretending to be eternal victims, despite the fact that doing so may land a few in jail. Speaking of idiotic Jewish diatribes, the funniest thing I read this week was that Obama is the secret love child of Malcolm X, according to Pamela Gellar of “Atlast Shrugs” fame.
In 1935 an American, Ben Frommer, a writer for the ultraright Zionist-Revisionists, could declare of no less than 16 million of his fellow Jews that:
“The fact is undeniable that the Jews collectively are unhealthy and neurotic. Those professional Jews who, wounded to the quick, indignantly deny this truth are the greatest enemies of their race, for they thereby lead them to search for false solutions, or at most palliatives”.
What chutzpah!
Get back to me when you find those Iraqi WMDs, Shlomo.

]]> By: Wakey Wakey http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30475 Wakey Wakey Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:06:21 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30475 Joe Mama, You're beneath contempt. DRM, Crimes, including the worst like rape and murder, are committed by all types of people for all types of reasons. The relevant question here is why. Why was the 13 year-old girl stoned to death? The answer is that she was the victim of Shariah law. She was killed because of Islam. There's no getting around it. In fact, even some of the Muslims who post here admit that, with the right amount of proof and the right Islamic procedure, stoning <em><strong>is</strong></em> appropriate. In fact, most people would disagree. Most people would say it's sadistic and barbaric. Sooner or later, the world will cast off its politically-correct blinders and see Islam for what it really is. Joe Mama,

You’re beneath contempt.

DRM,

Crimes, including the worst like rape and murder, are committed by all types of people for all types of reasons. The relevant question here is why. Why was the 13 year-old girl stoned to death? The answer is that she was the victim of Shariah law. She was killed because of Islam. There’s no getting around it. In fact, even some of the Muslims who post here admit that, with the right amount of proof and the right Islamic procedure, stoning is appropriate. In fact, most people would disagree. Most people would say it’s sadistic and barbaric.

Sooner or later, the world will cast off its politically-correct blinders and see Islam for what it really is.

]]> By: Charles http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30408 Charles Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:11:30 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30408 Wakey Wakey, If you're still reading I've created a temporary address. It's good for about a week, after that I will delete it. You can write to me there and I will give you my real address. WhiteGuy, pass it on to him if you like ... stop_the_madness@live.ca <em><strong> -Charles, sorry, we didn't get the opportunity to pass your email to "wakey".</strong></em> Wakey Wakey,

If you’re still reading I’ve created a temporary address. It’s good for about a week, after that I will delete it. You can write to me there and I will give you my real address. WhiteGuy, pass it on to him if you like …

stop_the_madness@live.ca

-Charles, sorry, we didn’t get the opportunity to pass your email to “wakey”.

]]> By: Joe Mama http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30404 Joe Mama Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:53:34 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30404 Dr M said: I see the judeofascists and their loyal shabbos goyim protest a bit too much. Typical of the failed species. My reply: Thanks for standing up and proudly announcing you are part of the problem. Disgusting. Dr M said: I see the judeofascists and their loyal shabbos goyim protest a bit too much. Typical of the failed species.

My reply: Thanks for standing up and proudly announcing you are part of the problem.

Disgusting.

]]> By: DrM http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30353 DrM Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:55:03 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30353 Cherry picking are we, "white guy"? What does a crime like this prove? Isn't Somalia the country you're currently bombing through invasion by your Ethiopian proxies? I remember reading the case of a Somali woman who was raped by 12 Ethiopian solders. Ofcourse since the rapists aren't Muslim and haven't been arrested. its not newsworthy for anti-Muslim scavengers : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXj0Faxx4Gw What was 14 year old Abeer Qassim Hamza's crime when she was gang raped, and murdered along with her family by US mercenaries? 3 of the bastards will be out in less then 10 years. Oh, but I forget it was an act of "liberation" by mighty whitey. Speaking of Amnesty International, Dr.Francis Boyle discusses the role of the organization : http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/articles/article0004573.html Good luck on the Armageddonist Rapture acid trip. Joe Plumber types putting themselves on the line for a bunch of East European Khazarite terrorists living 5000 years in the past, hopped up on Hasbara nonsense thinking God is their personal real estate agent. Get back to when you and Steyn find those Iraqi WMDs. Billybob. Cherry picking are we, “white guy”? What does a crime like this prove? Isn’t Somalia the country you’re currently bombing through invasion by your Ethiopian proxies? I remember reading the case of a Somali woman who was raped by 12 Ethiopian solders. Ofcourse since the rapists aren’t Muslim and haven’t been arrested. its not newsworthy for anti-Muslim scavengers :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXj0Faxx4Gw

What was 14 year old Abeer Qassim Hamza’s crime when she was gang raped, and murdered along with her family by US mercenaries? 3 of the bastards will be out in less then 10 years. Oh, but I forget it was an act of “liberation” by mighty whitey.

Speaking of Amnesty International, Dr.Francis Boyle discusses the role of the organization :

http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/articles/article0004573.html

Good luck on the Armageddonist Rapture acid trip. Joe Plumber types putting themselves on the line for a bunch of East European Khazarite terrorists living 5000 years in the past, hopped up on Hasbara nonsense thinking God is their personal real estate agent. Get back to when you and Steyn find those Iraqi WMDs. Billybob.

]]> By: White Guy http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30323 White Guy Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:03:11 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/22/cic-vs-macleans-the-most-embarrassing-episode-in-the-canadian-muslim-communitys-history/#comment-30323 Clarification to an earlierpost, made by me: <blockquote><em>Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow was accused of adultery, but sources told Amnesty International that she had in fact been raped by three men, and had attempted to report this rape to the al-Shabab militia who control Kismayo. It was this act that resulted in her being accused of adultery and detained. None of men she accused of rape were arrested.</em></blockquote> http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/child-of%20-13-stoned-to-death-in-somalia-20081031 Is Amnesty International reputable or part of the conspiracy? Clarification to an earlierpost, made by me:

Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow was accused of adultery, but sources told Amnesty International that she had in fact been raped by three men, and had attempted to report this rape to the al-Shabab militia who control Kismayo. It was this act that resulted in her being accused of adultery and detained. None of men she accused of rape were arrested.

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/child-of%20-13-stoned-to-death-in-somalia-20081031

Is Amnesty International reputable or part of the conspiracy?

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