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	<title>Comments on: Dr. Ali al-Timimi&#8217;s Hearing: October 23rd, 2008</title>
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		<title>By: The PJ Tatler &#187; NY Times Mag promotes &#8220;Hoax of the Holocaust&#8221; cleric Yasir Qadhi as face of &#8220;moderate&#8221; American Islam</title>
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		<dc:creator>The PJ Tatler &#187; NY Times Mag promotes &#8220;Hoax of the Holocaust&#8221; cleric Yasir Qadhi as face of &#8220;moderate&#8221; American Islam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In a August 8, 2006 article in the Houston Chronicle, Qadhi admitted that he too was on the terror watch list. Qadhi&#8217;s Houston-based media company, IlmQuest, also sold sold sets of CDs of Al-Qaeda cleric Anwar Awlaki &#8212; even after he had inspired the Fort Hood shooter Maj. Nidal Hasan &#8212; until The Jawa Report called them out on it. Qadhi has taken up the cause of several convicted terrorists, including Ali Al-Tammimi. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Plans to Build Massive Islamic Centers Raise Concerns in Tennessee &#124; Prevalent News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plans to Build Massive Islamic Centers Raise Concerns in Tennessee &#124; Prevalent News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a letter issued in defense of his former teacher, Qadhi said Timimi &#8220;played an instrumental role in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Muslim</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/09/dr-ali-al-timimis-hearing-october-23rd-2008/#comment-67779</link>
		<dc:creator>Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 10:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subhannallah I dont&#039; understand the views of some muslims..especially those who say we are in the Maccan era as an excuse for not speaking about the truth of what Islam teaches.

Let me just remind you all that muslims in the Meccan period were tortured for speaking the truth and openly denouncing the idols and not weasling out of the tough questions. Just like the muslims today who choose to speak the clear truth and nothing but the truth.

If they want to specifically say that there are in the period of the AL Arqam house where islam and its teachings stayed between 4 walls then maybe thats a better description for what they should liken their quietness to and their cushioned views 

On the other hand the muslims of nowadays who want to use the Meccan period as an excuse for not being able to  openly teach what the Quran and sunnah proclaims ...no their  main goal is how to justify living comftorbaly and not having their feathers ruffled, dosen&#039;t matter what happens to their brothers and sisters as long as a few helpless tears are shed occasionally. 

But as they say some people just don&#039;t get it and alluding to this group at thats group&#039;s agenda  falls on deaf ears that wants to lay comftorbaly , rub shoulders and present compromised views  to these same noble people you accuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subhannallah I dont&#8217; understand the views of some muslims..especially those who say we are in the Maccan era as an excuse for not speaking about the truth of what Islam teaches.</p>
<p>Let me just remind you all that muslims in the Meccan period were tortured for speaking the truth and openly denouncing the idols and not weasling out of the tough questions. Just like the muslims today who choose to speak the clear truth and nothing but the truth.</p>
<p>If they want to specifically say that there are in the period of the AL Arqam house where islam and its teachings stayed between 4 walls then maybe thats a better description for what they should liken their quietness to and their cushioned views </p>
<p>On the other hand the muslims of nowadays who want to use the Meccan period as an excuse for not being able to  openly teach what the Quran and sunnah proclaims &#8230;no their  main goal is how to justify living comftorbaly and not having their feathers ruffled, dosen&#8217;t matter what happens to their brothers and sisters as long as a few helpless tears are shed occasionally. </p>
<p>But as they say some people just don&#8217;t get it and alluding to this group at thats group&#8217;s agenda  falls on deaf ears that wants to lay comftorbaly , rub shoulders and present compromised views  to these same noble people you accuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Ruba</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/09/dr-ali-al-timimis-hearing-october-23rd-2008/#comment-58390</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Ruba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We ask Allah SWT for his mercy and blessings, seek refuge unto Him, none will be even able to make a single shake to our belief and trust in Him. We ask for His bountiless vast mercy to Shaikhs and his dear family. We ask Allah SWT to clear our eyes, stop our rolling tears, that soaring Majesty can only fill ou hearts with pleasure to see a Freed Shaikh in the very nearest, soonst future.

Oh our Lord, your mercy surpasses every things in the whole world, bless us this time with chance to know and realize more on that...

- wassalam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We ask Allah SWT for his mercy and blessings, seek refuge unto Him, none will be even able to make a single shake to our belief and trust in Him. We ask for His bountiless vast mercy to Shaikhs and his dear family. We ask Allah SWT to clear our eyes, stop our rolling tears, that soaring Majesty can only fill ou hearts with pleasure to see a Freed Shaikh in the very nearest, soonst future.</p>
<p>Oh our Lord, your mercy surpasses every things in the whole world, bless us this time with chance to know and realize more on that&#8230;</p>
<p>- wassalam</p>
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		<title>By: moses seenarine</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/09/dr-ali-al-timimis-hearing-october-23rd-2008/#comment-37548</link>
		<dc:creator>moses seenarine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve written a novel on this issue -

http://www.born911.com

i&#039;d like to do a small, independent documentary on the effect this is having on family and friends.
can anyone help me get in touch with a family member or friend? where are they mostly located?

sincerely,
moses</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve written a novel on this issue -</p>
<p><a href="http://www.born911.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.born911.com</a></p>
<p>i&#8217;d like to do a small, independent documentary on the effect this is having on family and friends.<br />
can anyone help me get in touch with a family member or friend? where are they mostly located?</p>
<p>sincerely,<br />
moses</p>
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		<title>By: ar.m</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/09/dr-ali-al-timimis-hearing-october-23rd-2008/#comment-35062</link>
		<dc:creator>ar.m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ya Allah help us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ya Allah help us</p>
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		<title>By: John_Muhammed</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/09/dr-ali-al-timimis-hearing-october-23rd-2008/#comment-32923</link>
		<dc:creator>John_Muhammed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Salamalaikum Sh. Yasir Qadhi,

I realy appreciate what Al Maghrib is doing and I love to spend my money at ilmquest. What amazes me having been on both sides of the coin is the Quran is very clear, on that ,the majority of disbelievers can not even be the true friends of the majority believers. This challenge of Allah SWT is very simple and there is no room for any fitna involved in achieving this if they ( Non-believers as a Group) should persue on it. Why have not a single non-believer group be it Hindu, Budhist, Sikh, Christian of any denomination, Jews of any denomination done this for the last 1400 years? We the majority of believers are openly inviting them to be our friends with open arms ( even without them becoming Muslims), what&#039;s keeping them from embracing us as is?  do you realy think this will hapen?

Allahu Aalam,

JM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Salamalaikum Sh. Yasir Qadhi,</p>
<p>I realy appreciate what Al Maghrib is doing and I love to spend my money at ilmquest. What amazes me having been on both sides of the coin is the Quran is very clear, on that ,the majority of disbelievers can not even be the true friends of the majority believers. This challenge of Allah SWT is very simple and there is no room for any fitna involved in achieving this if they ( Non-believers as a Group) should persue on it. Why have not a single non-believer group be it Hindu, Budhist, Sikh, Christian of any denomination, Jews of any denomination done this for the last 1400 years? We the majority of believers are openly inviting them to be our friends with open arms ( even without them becoming Muslims), what&#8217;s keeping them from embracing us as is?  do you realy think this will hapen?</p>
<p>Allahu Aalam,</p>
<p>JM</p>
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		<title>By: Khalil</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/09/dr-ali-al-timimis-hearing-october-23rd-2008/#comment-29932</link>
		<dc:creator>Khalil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salam,

I read sura&#039;s quran and books of hadith.  Why are we in a state of humiliation. Ahh, we have left the folds of islam.  Many of our scholars have betrayed us by giving us the watered down version of islam.  Where is the pure islam, the islam of Muhammud (pbuh), the islam of Abu Bakr (ra), the islam of Umar ibn Kathab (ra) and so on.  


YA ALLAH, GIVE OUR SCHOLARS STRENGTH TO SPEAK THE TRUTH. AMEEN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salam,</p>
<p>I read sura&#8217;s quran and books of hadith.  Why are we in a state of humiliation. Ahh, we have left the folds of islam.  Many of our scholars have betrayed us by giving us the watered down version of islam.  Where is the pure islam, the islam of Muhammud (pbuh), the islam of Abu Bakr (ra), the islam of Umar ibn Kathab (ra) and so on.  </p>
<p>YA ALLAH, GIVE OUR SCHOLARS STRENGTH TO SPEAK THE TRUTH. AMEEN</p>
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		<title>By: Amad</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/09/dr-ali-al-timimis-hearing-october-23rd-2008/#comment-29682</link>
		<dc:creator>Amad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had emailed Turley about a week ago to check status. I was having email problems so even if the good man replied, I may have not gotten it. I&#039;ll try emailing again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had emailed Turley about a week ago to check status. I was having email problems so even if the good man replied, I may have not gotten it. I&#8217;ll try emailing again.</p>
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		<title>By: abu abdAllah, the Houstonian</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/10/09/dr-ali-al-timimis-hearing-october-23rd-2008/#comment-29672</link>
		<dc:creator>abu abdAllah, the Houstonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bismillah. i just did a few casual searches for news and analysis about the case. i did not find any news stories.

i found that this MM article is the most recent article mentioning the shaykh on Digg -- and the next newest is about one year old.

i found this blog: &lt;a href=&quot;http://freeali.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freeali.wordpress.com/&lt;/a&gt; which has an interesting statement by Prof. Turley.

i found a video on a different blog, &lt;a href=&quot;http://thesunnah.wordpress.com/2007/07/29/sheikh-ali-al-timimi/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://thesunnah.wordpress.com/2007/07/29/sheikh-ali-al-timimi/&lt;/a&gt;  i can&#039;t say much for the blogs because i do not spend much time at them, but after the video&#039;s opening title sequences (some of which is worth skipping) there was an audio clip (&lt;strong&gt;starting at about 3:50&lt;/strong&gt; into the video) with transcript of Shaykh Al-Timimi speaking on the night of his indictment, just over four years ago now -- and exactly four years before the most recent hearing.

you have to hear and read what he said when he spoke to his parents (&lt;strong&gt;at about 6:45&lt;/strong&gt;) about the pressure by the US govt on him to plea to a lesser crime.  his parents, may Allah reward them immensely in this life and the next, remind me immediately of Asma bint Abu Bakr, radi Allaho anhomaa, when she scolded her then-elderly-son Abdullah for wearing armor.

and then his quotations from the scholars... simply beautiful.

alhamdolillah (alaa kulli haal) i also found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalpolitician.com/23278-terror&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt; with the following excerpt of Shaykh al-Timimi at his sentencing:
&lt;blockquote&gt;“I will not admit guilt nor seek the Court’s mercy. I do this not out of any disrespect to the Court. I do this simply because I am innocent. My claim of innocence is not because of any inherent misunderstanding on my part as to the nature of the crimes for which I was convicted nor is it because my Muslim belief recognizes sharia rather than secular law. It is merely because I am innocent. ... We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquillity, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. I declare the government’s recitation poor as it stripped those words of their meaning. *** Imprisonment of any term, as this Court well knows, is a crisis for the incarcerated and his or her loved ones. I am no exception to that. But the real crisis brought on my imprisonment, I sincerely believe is America’s. For if my conviction is to stand, it would mean that two hundred and thirty years of America’s tradition of protecting the individual from the tyrannies and whims of the sovereign will have come to an end. And that which is exploited today to persecute a single member of a minority will most assuredly come back to haunt the majority tomorrow.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

in all that i read and heard, i only had access to bits and pieces of Shaykh Al-Timimi&#039;s thoughts.  it really seems to me that those who prosecuted him, who found him guilty, and who still insist that incarceration is just for him, that those people all are driven by fear.  so the strength of his character and conviction scares them, because they do not share his belief in Allah.  his moral rectitude and forthrightness, mashaAllah, do not reassure them but foment fear in them.

a brave people would have been fair.  a brave people would not have found the evidence offered by the government persuasive.  a brave people would have corrected their mistakes by now.

it may seem that there is little hope for justice for Shaykh Dr. Ali al-Timimi.  but Allah is the source of our hope.  and just as Yusuf alayhis salam remained steadfast when the servant of the Malik forgot to tell his master about Yusuf&#039;s gifts.  we pray Allah will keep Dr. Al-Timimi and every other unjustly imprisoned Muslim steadfast.  and that Allah will bring about the means for freeing Dr. al-Timimi just as he brought about the release of Yusuf alayhis salam.  and i pray that Allah will make his release as much a boon to America as was the release of Yusuf.

because Allah is the most Just, and He is always, too, ar-Rahman and ar-Raheem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bismillah. i just did a few casual searches for news and analysis about the case. i did not find any news stories.</p>
<p>i found that this MM article is the most recent article mentioning the shaykh on Digg &#8212; and the next newest is about one year old.</p>
<p>i found this blog: <a href="http://freeali.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freeali.wordpress.com/</a> which has an interesting statement by Prof. Turley.</p>
<p>i found a video on a different blog, <a href="http://thesunnah.wordpress.com/2007/07/29/sheikh-ali-al-timimi/" rel="nofollow">http://thesunnah.wordpress.com/2007/07/29/sheikh-ali-al-timimi/</a>  i can&#8217;t say much for the blogs because i do not spend much time at them, but after the video&#8217;s opening title sequences (some of which is worth skipping) there was an audio clip (<strong>starting at about 3:50</strong> into the video) with transcript of Shaykh Al-Timimi speaking on the night of his indictment, just over four years ago now &#8212; and exactly four years before the most recent hearing.</p>
<p>you have to hear and read what he said when he spoke to his parents (<strong>at about 6:45</strong>) about the pressure by the US govt on him to plea to a lesser crime.  his parents, may Allah reward them immensely in this life and the next, remind me immediately of Asma bint Abu Bakr, radi Allaho anhomaa, when she scolded her then-elderly-son Abdullah for wearing armor.</p>
<p>and then his quotations from the scholars&#8230; simply beautiful.</p>
<p>alhamdolillah (alaa kulli haal) i also found <a href="http://www.globalpolitician.com/23278-terror" rel="nofollow">this article</a> with the following excerpt of Shaykh al-Timimi at his sentencing:</p>
<blockquote><p>“I will not admit guilt nor seek the Court’s mercy. I do this not out of any disrespect to the Court. I do this simply because I am innocent. My claim of innocence is not because of any inherent misunderstanding on my part as to the nature of the crimes for which I was convicted nor is it because my Muslim belief recognizes sharia rather than secular law. It is merely because I am innocent. &#8230; We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquillity, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. I declare the government’s recitation poor as it stripped those words of their meaning. *** Imprisonment of any term, as this Court well knows, is a crisis for the incarcerated and his or her loved ones. I am no exception to that. But the real crisis brought on my imprisonment, I sincerely believe is America’s. For if my conviction is to stand, it would mean that two hundred and thirty years of America’s tradition of protecting the individual from the tyrannies and whims of the sovereign will have come to an end. And that which is exploited today to persecute a single member of a minority will most assuredly come back to haunt the majority tomorrow.”</p></blockquote>
<p>in all that i read and heard, i only had access to bits and pieces of Shaykh Al-Timimi&#8217;s thoughts.  it really seems to me that those who prosecuted him, who found him guilty, and who still insist that incarceration is just for him, that those people all are driven by fear.  so the strength of his character and conviction scares them, because they do not share his belief in Allah.  his moral rectitude and forthrightness, mashaAllah, do not reassure them but foment fear in them.</p>
<p>a brave people would have been fair.  a brave people would not have found the evidence offered by the government persuasive.  a brave people would have corrected their mistakes by now.</p>
<p>it may seem that there is little hope for justice for Shaykh Dr. Ali al-Timimi.  but Allah is the source of our hope.  and just as Yusuf alayhis salam remained steadfast when the servant of the Malik forgot to tell his master about Yusuf&#8217;s gifts.  we pray Allah will keep Dr. Al-Timimi and every other unjustly imprisoned Muslim steadfast.  and that Allah will bring about the means for freeing Dr. al-Timimi just as he brought about the release of Yusuf alayhis salam.  and i pray that Allah will make his release as much a boon to America as was the release of Yusuf.</p>
<p>because Allah is the most Just, and He is always, too, ar-Rahman and ar-Raheem.</p>
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