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	<title>Comments on: Sarah Palin and Osama Bin Laden Agree on Holy War</title>
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		<title>By: Bong Marcus</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-and-osama-bin-laden-agree-on-holy-war/#comment-54749</link>
		<dc:creator>Bong Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah Palin is a woman with a very strong character and personality that is why i like her.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah Palin is a woman with a very strong character and personality that is why i like her.<br />
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		<title>By: Is There No Shame at &#8220;MuslimMatters.org&#8221;: Palin as Bin Ladin? &#171; A Singular Voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is There No Shame at &#8220;MuslimMatters.org&#8221;: Palin as Bin Ladin? &#171; A Singular Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in Uncategorized.  trackback  I was checking out some of the blogs yesterday and came across an article at Muslim Matters that quite frankly turned my stomach. Its not entirely clear who authored the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Abu 'Umar</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-and-osama-bin-laden-agree-on-holy-war/#comment-26882</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu 'Umar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently Sarah Palin has her own Jeremiah Wright, except this one is a little more batty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-_h2OU8RAQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Sarah Palin has her own Jeremiah Wright, except this one is a little more batty:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-_h2OU8RAQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-_h2OU8RAQ</a></p>
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		<title>By: AbuAbdAllah, the Houstonian</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-and-osama-bin-laden-agree-on-holy-war/#comment-26680</link>
		<dc:creator>AbuAbdAllah, the Houstonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>subhanAllah.  i think we should all get used to referring to her as President Palin.  nope, not a typo.

when she was first nominated i thought to myself, here&#039;s another dan quayle.  DQ had the intellect of an ice cream treat -- he was someone that no one would take seriously as a president, and thus someone whom other GOP powers had tapped so that the field would be open for their own favorites post-GW I.  

that strategy seemed bold but perversely sensible to me at the time.  john mccain is not loved by the hardcore GOP.  and everyone (except most Democrats) saw how much the Dems were hamstrung by the almost-effective Al Gore -- just effective enough to block other democrats who could have sought the nomination, but plenty effective at losing to GW II.  so pick a nobody like palin and regardless of the election outcome, the field would be cleared for other GOP candidates in 2012.  risky and maybe ruthless.

but just watching the reactions of other people (not necessarily those here in this thread) to her, i&#039;ve accepted another reality.  she really is GW II all over again.  GW II sucker-punched America for 8 years and the Democrats were worse than culpable for not mounting an effective challenge.  and now the least-educated-least-prudent-electorate nightmares of the founding fathers may be proved true, again.

subhanAllah.

why do democrats continue to wonder why obama is now losing? if they would listen to me, i would tell them it&#039;s simple.  we see in the recent polls the truth that was always lurking behind the old polls.  why could obama alone not shake off mccain?  why?  because americans have always been susceptible to race prejudice -- i am not saying all Americans are racists, i am saying that racemongering is an achilles heel of many people, but especially the American electorate.

the GOP (and HRC and the media) made race such an acceptable topic for public discussion -- &quot;is &lt;strong&gt;Obama&lt;/strong&gt; playing the race card?&quot;  and &quot;would you look at what his (black) preacher said about America?&quot;  then there was very little more that was needed -- &quot;Osama, I mean Obama...&quot; -- no, the last two examples juxtaposed are meant to make it clear to you.  all along the message was do not trust this black man.

and for a long time the polls have shown that many Americans have been praying for an excuse to publicly desert obama for a white guy -- an excuse other than race.  then their dreams came true when they got to desert him for a white woman -- thus standing tall as though they had always wanted to break that glass ceiling.  so what if the candidate herself is so unqualified that when she was Mayor of her small town, that was the first time a city administrator had to be hired there!  why? to avert the disastrous consequences of her decisions.  &quot;that just means that she will have her own condoleeza rice&#039;s and john ashcroft&#039;s and dick cheney&#039;s to keep her finger off the nuclear button.  doesn&#039;t it?&quot;

subhanAllah.

perhaps some democrats will genuinely claim that the primary was not about race, but even his supporters were glad that a black man could be nominated.

whether you like obama or not, for the average american this election has always been about race.  always.  and the average american who votes is white.  and i think the majority of them will vote for the white girl.

alhamdolillah alaa kulli haal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>subhanAllah.  i think we should all get used to referring to her as President Palin.  nope, not a typo.</p>
<p>when she was first nominated i thought to myself, here&#8217;s another dan quayle.  DQ had the intellect of an ice cream treat &#8212; he was someone that no one would take seriously as a president, and thus someone whom other GOP powers had tapped so that the field would be open for their own favorites post-GW I.  </p>
<p>that strategy seemed bold but perversely sensible to me at the time.  john mccain is not loved by the hardcore GOP.  and everyone (except most Democrats) saw how much the Dems were hamstrung by the almost-effective Al Gore &#8212; just effective enough to block other democrats who could have sought the nomination, but plenty effective at losing to GW II.  so pick a nobody like palin and regardless of the election outcome, the field would be cleared for other GOP candidates in 2012.  risky and maybe ruthless.</p>
<p>but just watching the reactions of other people (not necessarily those here in this thread) to her, i&#8217;ve accepted another reality.  she really is GW II all over again.  GW II sucker-punched America for 8 years and the Democrats were worse than culpable for not mounting an effective challenge.  and now the least-educated-least-prudent-electorate nightmares of the founding fathers may be proved true, again.</p>
<p>subhanAllah.</p>
<p>why do democrats continue to wonder why obama is now losing? if they would listen to me, i would tell them it&#8217;s simple.  we see in the recent polls the truth that was always lurking behind the old polls.  why could obama alone not shake off mccain?  why?  because americans have always been susceptible to race prejudice &#8212; i am not saying all Americans are racists, i am saying that racemongering is an achilles heel of many people, but especially the American electorate.</p>
<p>the GOP (and HRC and the media) made race such an acceptable topic for public discussion &#8212; &#8220;is <strong>Obama</strong> playing the race card?&#8221;  and &#8220;would you look at what his (black) preacher said about America?&#8221;  then there was very little more that was needed &#8212; &#8220;Osama, I mean Obama&#8230;&#8221; &#8212; no, the last two examples juxtaposed are meant to make it clear to you.  all along the message was do not trust this black man.</p>
<p>and for a long time the polls have shown that many Americans have been praying for an excuse to publicly desert obama for a white guy &#8212; an excuse other than race.  then their dreams came true when they got to desert him for a white woman &#8212; thus standing tall as though they had always wanted to break that glass ceiling.  so what if the candidate herself is so unqualified that when she was Mayor of her small town, that was the first time a city administrator had to be hired there!  why? to avert the disastrous consequences of her decisions.  &#8220;that just means that she will have her own condoleeza rice&#8217;s and john ashcroft&#8217;s and dick cheney&#8217;s to keep her finger off the nuclear button.  doesn&#8217;t it?&#8221;</p>
<p>subhanAllah.</p>
<p>perhaps some democrats will genuinely claim that the primary was not about race, but even his supporters were glad that a black man could be nominated.</p>
<p>whether you like obama or not, for the average american this election has always been about race.  always.  and the average american who votes is white.  and i think the majority of them will vote for the white girl.</p>
<p>alhamdolillah alaa kulli haal.</p>
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		<title>By: Suhail</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-and-osama-bin-laden-agree-on-holy-war/#comment-26416</link>
		<dc:creator>Suhail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that she is getting the republican evangelical base warmed up again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that she is getting the republican evangelical base warmed up again.</p>
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		<title>By: Amad</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-and-osama-bin-laden-agree-on-holy-war/#comment-26412</link>
		<dc:creator>Amad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abu Umar, great informational recap. jazakallahkhair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abu Umar, great informational recap. jazakallahkhair.</p>
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		<title>By: Abu 'Umar</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-and-osama-bin-laden-agree-on-holy-war/#comment-26409</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu 'Umar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t get a chance to go through the whole Palin interview last night, but here is what we now know about her. She thinks the criminal war in Iraq is &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/General/palin-backs-americas-righteous-war/1270805.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;righteous&lt;/a&gt;,&quot; she has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/11/AR2008091103789_pf.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;linked Iraq with 9/11&lt;/a&gt;, is open to &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.antiwar.com/2008/09/11/palin-wont-rule-out-war-with-russia/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;war with Russia&lt;/a&gt; (which has nuclear weapons) over Georgia, thinks that Iran is a threat to the world (not just a regional menace), and said we cannot &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/09/matthews-suggests-aipac-scripted-palins-rote-answer-on-israel.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;second guess&lt;/a&gt;&quot; Israel. So she has embraced essentially every neocon doctrine concering Iraq, Iran, Israel, and Russia. She drank the neocon kool-aid right up (and apparently had second helpings). (Her statements on Russia are particularly disturbing considering that principle foreign policy adviser to the McCain campaign is a certain &lt;a href=&quot;http://antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=13338&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Randy Scheunemann&lt;/a&gt;, who was a paid lobbiest of the Georgian government and is an ardent neocon.) A McCain-Palin run presidency is a frightening prospect to say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get a chance to go through the whole Palin interview last night, but here is what we now know about her. She thinks the criminal war in Iraq is &#8220;<a href="http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/General/palin-backs-americas-righteous-war/1270805.aspx" rel="nofollow">righteous</a>,&#8221; she has <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/11/AR2008091103789_pf.html" rel="nofollow">linked Iraq with 9/11</a>, is open to <a href="http://news.antiwar.com/2008/09/11/palin-wont-rule-out-war-with-russia/" rel="nofollow">war with Russia</a> (which has nuclear weapons) over Georgia, thinks that Iran is a threat to the world (not just a regional menace), and said we cannot &#8220;<a href="http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/09/matthews-suggests-aipac-scripted-palins-rote-answer-on-israel.html" rel="nofollow">second guess</a>&#8221; Israel. So she has embraced essentially every neocon doctrine concering Iraq, Iran, Israel, and Russia. She drank the neocon kool-aid right up (and apparently had second helpings). (Her statements on Russia are particularly disturbing considering that principle foreign policy adviser to the McCain campaign is a certain <a href="http://antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=13338" rel="nofollow">Randy Scheunemann</a>, who was a paid lobbiest of the Georgian government and is an ardent neocon.) A McCain-Palin run presidency is a frightening prospect to say the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Hidaya</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-and-osama-bin-laden-agree-on-holy-war/#comment-26365</link>
		<dc:creator>Hidaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.ispu.org/articles/articledetailpb-53.html   -&gt; cool  article =)</description>
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		<title>By: Abu 'Umar</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-and-osama-bin-laden-agree-on-holy-war/#comment-26363</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu 'Umar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting back to the topic of &lt;a href=&quot;http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5778018&amp;page=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sarah Palin&lt;/a&gt;, it appears that she is a bigger warmongering wack-job than either Bush or McCain:

&lt;blockquote&gt;On the anniversary of the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history, Gov. Sarah Palin took a hard-line approach on national security &lt;strong&gt;and said that war with Russia may be necessary&lt;/strong&gt; if Georgia were to join NATO and be invaded by Russia.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting back to the topic of <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5778018&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">Sarah Palin</a>, it appears that she is a bigger warmongering wack-job than either Bush or McCain:</p>
<blockquote><p>On the anniversary of the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history, Gov. Sarah Palin took a hard-line approach on national security <strong>and said that war with Russia may be necessary</strong> if Georgia were to join NATO and be invaded by Russia.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Abu 'Umar</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-and-osama-bin-laden-agree-on-holy-war/#comment-26358</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu 'Umar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The fatwa of 26 scholars quoted above was from 2004. We are in 2008 now.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, the fatwa was first released in 2004, but the scholars never retracted it, so it still stands. Indeed, I know for a fact that several of these venerable scholars have continued to voice their stance on this issue, and they are saying the same thing now that they said four years ago. Also the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Muslim_Scholars&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Association of Muslim Scholars&lt;/a&gt;, a council of leading Iraqi scholars has endorsed the resistance against occupation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The fatwa of 26 scholars quoted above was from 2004. We are in 2008 now.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, the fatwa was first released in 2004, but the scholars never retracted it, so it still stands. Indeed, I know for a fact that several of these venerable scholars have continued to voice their stance on this issue, and they are saying the same thing now that they said four years ago. Also the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Muslim_Scholars" rel="nofollow">Association of Muslim Scholars</a>, a council of leading Iraqi scholars has endorsed the resistance against occupation.</p>
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