Comments on: The New Yorker Magazine’s Obama Cover “Satire” http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/ Discourses in the Intellectual Traditions, Political Situation, and Social Ethics of Muslim Life Wed, 23 May 2012 17:43:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: moon http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22873 moon Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:52:22 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22873 need i say more....i think not! need i say more….i think not!

]]> By: ibnabeeomar http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22869 ibnabeeomar Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:41:05 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22869 <blockquote>I must have special talents</blockquote> you're so full of yourself.

I must have special talents

you’re so full of yourself.

]]> By: Amad http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22860 Amad Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:54:20 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22860 I must have special talents to have what I say be misunderstood, even after clarifications! :) I must have special talents to have what I say be misunderstood, even after clarifications! :)

]]> By: moon http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22853 moon Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:21:21 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22853 Amad.....upsetting people again..............you're getting good at this LOL!!!! Amad…..upsetting people again…………..you’re getting good at this LOL!!!!

]]> By: Amad http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22844 Amad Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:35:03 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22844 Ugh... Bro, I NEVER said that the position against photography is only held by fanatics. Sh. Bin Baz rh, also didn't allow it. I remember sh. Ibn Uthaymeen being 1 of the "big 3" to permit a limited version of it. My point was of how messed up priorities can be. It is similar to the big joke "me and my girlfriend only eat zabihah"... So of course zabeehah is not a fanatical position, but relative to the "girlfriend", its a joke. I can't make this any clearer. Ugh… Bro, I NEVER said that the position against photography is only held by fanatics. Sh. Bin Baz rh, also didn’t allow it. I remember sh. Ibn Uthaymeen being 1 of the “big 3″ to permit a limited version of it. My point was of how messed up priorities can be. It is similar to the big joke “me and my girlfriend only eat zabihah”… So of course zabeehah is not a fanatical position, but relative to the “girlfriend”, its a joke. I can’t make this any clearer.

]]> By: Derelict of Dialect http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22832 Derelict of Dialect Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:00:30 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22832 Obama is Tabligi!!! Amad - The prohibition of photography is an accepted position held by more than just fantics. Also, knowing just how attention hungry the OBL types are, I doubt they harbor any reservations at all towards using photography to futher their goals. Obama is Tabligi!!! Amad – The prohibition of photography is an accepted position held by more than just fantics. Also, knowing just how attention hungry the OBL types are, I doubt they harbor any reservations at all towards using photography to futher their goals.

]]> By: Amad http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22804 Amad Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:57:06 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22804 The words "slowly", "coalesce", "small", "many other sites" all imply this to be a collective effort. Like drops of water becoming an ocean. We are not an ocean... Just a drop (or two :) ). Please read in context, as br. Omar mentioned. I don't disagree with what you ar saying br.isa, all I am saying is that these r two separate issues, and community works can't be pre-req to voting. Also under the law, we have the right to protest (better word than whine) and we should. That doesn't stop us from doing the other "minority works". Jak. The words “slowly”, “coalesce”, “small”, “many other sites” all imply this to be a collective effort. Like drops of water becoming an ocean. We are not an ocean… Just a drop (or two :) ). Please read in context, as br. Omar mentioned.

I don’t disagree with what you ar saying br.isa, all I am saying is that these r two separate issues, and community works can’t be pre-req to voting. Also under the law, we have the right to protest (better word than whine) and we should. That doesn’t stop us from doing the other “minority works”.

Jak.

]]> By: ibnabeeomar http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22798 ibnabeeomar Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:40:46 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22798 isa - i think amad's comment - in context - is indicating more that websites/blogs in general (mm obviously being included) can help to play a small impact on these issues. i dont think this particular comment was as you are taking it. isa – i think amad’s comment – in context – is indicating more that websites/blogs in general (mm obviously being included) can help to play a small impact on these issues. i dont think this particular comment was as you are taking it.

]]> By: isa http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22792 isa Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:05:30 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22792 <em>All the posts about Obama and the hijab, the McCain support, etc on MM, and on many websites slowly coalesced to become the slightest of pressures on Obama’s campaign. They are watching. And you can bet they don’t want the Muslim vote slipping away. That is why I insist on Muslims not being a quiet front, and taking all the crap thrown our way. Until we dignify our presence, and show the value of our votes, no one will care.</em> <strong>You guys are that popular and influential?</strong> <em> I know some people have said that Muslims just want the politicians to start respecting us, while we have done nothing in the communities. There is truth in part of the statement. In that we haven’t done enough.</em> <strong>That statement is all true.....Muslims never had to face what other religious and ethnic groups have faced in this country, but when something small happens there are many Muslims who wine and complain about their rights when they never or hardly ever gave back to their respective community. Why? because so many of our Muslim brothers and sisters live with and work with a large segment of society who has hardly ever faced racism. So when you live amongst those kind of people you pick up their bad habits (the me myself an I mentality) and they tend to look down at others in society like blacks and hispanics. Look at other groups who have gone through serious oppression or injustice in this country and see that group ( majority of them) wanting to better their communities. The Muslims who have the thousands of miles away its all the jews, America, and Muslim leaders mentality can learn from these groups. Allah knows bes</strong>t All the posts about Obama and the hijab, the McCain support, etc on MM, and on many websites slowly coalesced to become the slightest of pressures on Obama’s campaign. They are watching. And you can bet they don’t want the Muslim vote slipping away. That is why I insist on Muslims not being a quiet front, and taking all the crap thrown our way. Until we dignify our presence, and show the value of our votes, no one will care.

You guys are that popular and influential?


I know some people have said that Muslims just want the politicians to start respecting us, while we have done nothing in the communities. There is truth in part of the statement. In that we haven’t done enough.

That statement is all true…..Muslims never had to face what other religious and ethnic groups have faced in this country, but when something small happens there are many Muslims who wine and complain about their rights when they never or hardly ever gave back to their respective community.

Why? because so many of our Muslim brothers and sisters live with and work with a large segment of society who has hardly ever faced racism. So when you live amongst those kind of people you pick up their bad habits (the me myself an I mentality) and they tend to look down at others in society like blacks and hispanics.

Look at other groups who have gone through serious oppression or injustice in this country and see that group ( majority of them) wanting to better their communities. The Muslims who have the thousands of miles away its all the jews, America, and Muslim leaders mentality can learn from these groups.

Allah knows best

]]> By: Hassan http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22782 Hassan Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:13:47 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/07/14/the-new-yorker-magazines-obama-cover-satire/#comment-22782 Finally Obama showed some leadership. And this is exactly why it is so important for people running for position of influence to be bold, so that rest can follow them. And no doubt all recent events perhaps made Obama realize that he can no longer stay quite on this matter. This is definitely good sign, and good start, and lets hope he treats muslims in America with respect even if he does not agree us on issues. Finally Obama showed some leadership. And this is exactly why it is so important for people running for position of influence to be bold, so that rest can follow them. And no doubt all recent events perhaps made Obama realize that he can no longer stay quite on this matter. This is definitely good sign, and good start, and lets hope he treats muslims in America with respect even if he does not agree us on issues.

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