A Reply to Fitna

This is a reply to Geert Wilders’ film Fitna, highlighting the faults in his hatred-stirring arguments, and enabling everyone to get their facts right.

An eye for an eye in the Torah, Bible and Qur’an
Verses mentioned in the Fitna film:

Surah Anfal, verse 60: Geert fails to include the very next verse which says, “And if they incline to peace, then incline to it also and rely upon Allah. Indeed it is he who is the hearing, the knowing.”

Surah Nisa verse 56 is referring to the punishments in Hell – as decreed by God – not carried out by people! Plenty of warnings about Hell are in the Torah and Bible.

Surah Muhammed verse 47 was revealed at the time of the Battle of Badr (i.e. in relation to a specific situation), which occurred after the Prophet Muhammed and his followers had been persecuted for years- including torture, murder and starvation. Up until the Battle of Badr they had never been allowed to fight back.

Verses not mentioned in the Fitna film:

See more on the link. A Reply to Fitna

he’s so stupid, and by the way I think this video of him has something to do with him encouraging the jews in the israel-pali war.. maybe he’s jewish as well.. but then again, jews aren’t stupid as he is..
he’s a moron.

It might be difficult to awaken someone who is sleeping.
But, it is impossible to “awake” someone who is awake and just pretending to be in sleep.

Don’t waste your time on this Islamophobia peddler.

I am well aware of the general stance of the four major schools of jurisprudence, along with the latitude, on homosexuality, but thanks for the link. My point was the command to EXECUTE homosexuals is not explicit in the Qur’an as this Muslim had said.

As far as JW and Spencer goes, I agree with his position and his purpose as he professes on his site. I certainly have not tried to hide that fact in the least.

yea, kind of like the term fundamentalist…isn’t it a good thing to emphasize the fundamentals of something?

Maybe we should focus on ridding the free world of the evil Christianists and the Jewishists as well…

The punishment for homosexuality
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=38622&ln=eng

“Wilders should have put your words in his film. They would have fit in nicely”

for what. it would not have added anything of remote significance, infact it would have ruined his intent, unless of course he clipped it to be something like

“Muslims deem our views abour rights, freedom, and free speech as useless rhetoric and calls our values, as nothing more than desire, and causes barbarity”

then i could see where such a quote would help the intent of his video, whcih is a common ploy adopted by your media outlets, to clp and choose what suits the agenda

you say

“And exactly what price are you going to pay by exercising the right to express what you just did?”

at least Im willing to pay and face what I will face by my comment because we all know everyone reeps what they sow. You all, on the other hand, are the only people who seem to think you can get away with that which you sow and then call the reality of what goes around, comes around as “violence, war against freedom of speech” etc, etc complaining like little babies for something you evoke. If I punch somebody, i expect a fight, and this is pretty much the logic for the rest of humanity, save your “civilized nations”

you say

“Regarding the term “Islamism”, I used it as a response to another comment. I must in all honesty ask you a question about it. If you see no differentiation between a term like “Islamist” as opposed to Muslim, how would you differentiate yourself from someone like Zawahri?”

well firstly, zawahri could rightly not be deemed an islamist for he does not speak for Islam, but you and your party will paint him so, because the agenda is to demonize Islam itself.

so here is how i would
Im an islamist, and he is not
the more likely term for his case would be kharijist. but I guess hats a chapter spencer neglected to teach you.

I am disappointed in your words. All I did was link this thread at JW. Is that a problem?

The other comment was a reponse to someone on another site who says that the Qur’an commands Muslims to execute homosexuals, which it doesn’t. All I asked of him was to provide the chapter and verse. Is there something wrong with that as well?

I have been ever-respectful on this site and have attempted to engage in respectful discourse, but of course, you are free to do as you wish.