Comments on: Are You on THE List? About DHS Watch-Lists & How to Get Off them http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/ Discourses in the Intellectual Traditions, Political Situation, and Social Ethics of Muslim Life Wed, 23 May 2012 14:21:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: The Lure of Radicalism and Extremism Amongst Muslim Youth | 1st Ethical Charitable Trust http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-100748 The Lure of Radicalism and Extremism Amongst Muslim Youth | 1st Ethical Charitable Trust Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:08:44 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-100748 [...] He hears of his friends and families or other Muslims being routinely harassed, humiliated and intimidated at airports and border-crossings, and “randomly” selected for additional screening and [...] [...] He hears of his friends and families or other Muslims being routinely harassed, humiliated and intimidated at airports and border-crossings, and “randomly” selected for additional screening and [...]

]]> By: Yasir Qadhi | The Lure of Radicalism and Extremism Amongst Muslim Youth | MuslimMatters.org http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-78508 Yasir Qadhi | The Lure of Radicalism and Extremism Amongst Muslim Youth | MuslimMatters.org Mon, 18 Oct 2010 07:01:01 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-78508 [...] He hears of his friends and families or other Muslims being routinely harassed, humiliated and intimidated at airports and border-crossings, and “randomly” selected for additional screening and [...] [...] He hears of his friends and families or other Muslims being routinely harassed, humiliated and intimidated at airports and border-crossings, and “randomly” selected for additional screening and [...]

]]> By: Mike http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-48758 Mike Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:41:10 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-48758 Well, there are a couple issues. First I go back to my personal history. All asians looked the same to me for the longest time. Then after stationed in Japan, just minor subtle facial feature differences and getting a knack for the language, i can pick out a japanese among a crowd within a single minute of every day. But remember what I had said before that, that they all looked the same. Now lets move on to ketchup. lol! Yall remember when they came out with different colors?? I dont care what color it is, if it aint red ketchup, im not eating it, eyes closed or not. I have ALWAYS known ketchup to be RED, not GREEN! Now, all that said onto the sad part. From a white boy's perspective, we just see and hear the media most of the time. The media has made mid-easterners a threat to us here. and im sorry, i cannot say that it does not have some sort of justification, lets be honest here. OPEC's high oil prices knowing that we are in an economic slump, they didnt give a rats rear end, we dont have to be reminded of 9/11, while i personally put a lot of blame on the Bush administration, BOTH of them, all the media saw was what the us govt issued, and that was the "supposed" war on terror, etc. every day for weeks and months you saw yet another mid-easterner HOMICIDE-bombing killing lots of innocents, terrorist leaders constantly issuing statements about how they are gonna purge the world of us westerners, etc etc. Now, lets go back into americann history. I know people who are still all against the japanese for their wrongdoings in WWII, even my own father dislikes any and all Cuban simply because he was born and raised in Miami during the cold war era, and there are MANY that are like that, not just my dad. We are not all perfect, we all have our opinions, I am no better than the rest, while i LOVE culture and diversity, I practically embrace it, I am the FIRST one to stand in line to speak out against faggots (gay people). I just dont believe it to be right, I am actually a strong believer in evolution and procreation, and this simply just goes 100 percent against that grain. So now that ive strayed off topic, lets go back to WWII and the japanese haters. That war ended in 1945. 64 (SIXTY FOUR) years later, there are still die hard cold HATERS against the japanese. I was just in hawaii not that long ago, and they still have that cold joke where the japanese guy ask the american in present day "uh, excuse me sir, where is the Arizona Memorial" to which the american replies "back over there... where you left it!!" I guess this long story really short, the media mixed in with the government and the actual thousands of crimes that DID in fact occur, chances are, there is ALWAYS going to be some hate toward that. If you want the hate to dwindle, the violence has to cease immediately to start. and then you pretty much have to wait a lifetime or better, and hope that grandparents sstories dont rub too hard on their grandchildren to the point where they hate too. It is a time thing.. a REALLY LONG time thing. In the meantime, I AM actually glad the govt has stepped in to try and curtail unneeded and unnecessary hate and discrimination. I was a hater too, listened to nothing but the media. I drove a semi truck. You always see at least one or two middle-easterners wearing turbines having difficulty with the redneck truck stop personnel. I had my own personal hate, even as adults, we still learn new stuff everyday, but i kept to myself. But I tell ya what, it was about 3 am, I was so tired i couldnt sleep so i was sitting in a 24 hour truck stop restaurant. Now, we all know about how many people are in any restaurant that time in the morning. Came across this guy, his name was bakeer or bakir, not sure how u spell it. We got to talking, minutes turned into 3 hours, just carrying on casual conversation. So I finally got back into my truck about 5 or 6 in the morning and still couldnt sleep. I was laying back in my bed in the truck and it all came crashing down on me at once. I was 24 at the time, and i still admit, I cried for about an hour for the HATE that i let build inside me. It was at that time, I realized they put on their pants just as i do, they still take showers, have a need to eat, have their restless nights... they really are NOT all that different than i am!!! But, until the world can see that, I think this website has pretty good details on filing complaints and such and keeping it professional. I just hope that one day... ONE DAY.... the world can wake up as well and as quickly as I have. Good website guys and gals! Well, there are a couple issues. First I go back to my personal history. All asians looked the same to me for the longest time. Then after stationed in Japan, just minor subtle facial feature differences and getting a knack for the language, i can pick out a japanese among a crowd within a single minute of every day. But remember what I had said before that, that they all looked the same. Now lets move on to ketchup. lol! Yall remember when they came out with different colors?? I dont care what color it is, if it aint red ketchup, im not eating it, eyes closed or not. I have ALWAYS known ketchup to be RED, not GREEN! Now, all that said onto the sad part. From a white boy’s perspective, we just see and hear the media most of the time. The media has made mid-easterners a threat to us here. and im sorry, i cannot say that it does not have some sort of justification, lets be honest here. OPEC’s high oil prices knowing that we are in an economic slump, they didnt give a rats rear end, we dont have to be reminded of 9/11, while i personally put a lot of blame on the Bush administration, BOTH of them, all the media saw was what the us govt issued, and that was the “supposed” war on terror, etc. every day for weeks and months you saw yet another mid-easterner HOMICIDE-bombing killing lots of innocents, terrorist leaders constantly issuing statements about how they are gonna purge the world of us westerners, etc etc. Now, lets go back into americann history. I know people who are still all against the japanese for their wrongdoings in WWII, even my own father dislikes any and all Cuban simply because he was born and raised in Miami during the cold war era, and there are MANY that are like that, not just my dad. We are not all perfect, we all have our opinions, I am no better than the rest, while i LOVE culture and diversity, I practically embrace it, I am the FIRST one to stand in line to speak out against faggots (gay people). I just dont believe it to be right, I am actually a strong believer in evolution and procreation, and this simply just goes 100 percent against that grain. So now that ive strayed off topic, lets go back to WWII and the japanese haters. That war ended in 1945. 64 (SIXTY FOUR) years later, there are still die hard cold HATERS against the japanese. I was just in hawaii not that long ago, and they still have that cold joke where the japanese guy ask the american in present day “uh, excuse me sir, where is the Arizona Memorial” to which the american replies “back over there… where you left it!!” I guess this long story really short, the media mixed in with the government and the actual thousands of crimes that DID in fact occur, chances are, there is ALWAYS going to be some hate toward that. If you want the hate to dwindle, the violence has to cease immediately to start. and then you pretty much have to wait a lifetime or better, and hope that grandparents sstories dont rub too hard on their grandchildren to the point where they hate too. It is a time thing.. a REALLY LONG time thing. In the meantime, I AM actually glad the govt has stepped in to try and curtail unneeded and unnecessary hate and discrimination. I was a hater too, listened to nothing but the media. I drove a semi truck. You always see at least one or two middle-easterners wearing turbines having difficulty with the redneck truck stop personnel. I had my own personal hate, even as adults, we still learn new stuff everyday, but i kept to myself. But I tell ya what, it was about 3 am, I was so tired i couldnt sleep so i was sitting in a 24 hour truck stop restaurant. Now, we all know about how many people are in any restaurant that time in the morning. Came across this guy, his name was bakeer or bakir, not sure how u spell it. We got to talking, minutes turned into 3 hours, just carrying on casual conversation. So I finally got back into my truck about 5 or 6 in the morning and still couldnt sleep. I was laying back in my bed in the truck and it all came crashing down on me at once. I was 24 at the time, and i still admit, I cried for about an hour for the HATE that i let build inside me. It was at that time, I realized they put on their pants just as i do, they still take showers, have a need to eat, have their restless nights… they really are NOT all that different than i am!!!

But, until the world can see that, I think this website has pretty good details on filing complaints and such and keeping it professional. I just hope that one day… ONE DAY…. the world can wake up as well and as quickly as I have.

Good website guys and gals!

]]> By: klm http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-42370 klm Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:04:47 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-42370 I am not muslim but I'd just like to say that YES every last detail of this article is completely true. Somehow I ended up on a watch list (I am a 22 year old caucasion) and this is the ordeal I go through every time I re enter the US. It is so stressful. I also notice that around 80% of the people I sit in the holding area with are always Muslim. I am not muslim but I’d just like to say that YES every last detail of this article is completely true. Somehow I ended up on a watch list (I am a 22 year old caucasion) and this is the ordeal I go through every time I re enter the US. It is so stressful. I also notice that around 80% of the people I sit in the holding area with are always Muslim.

]]> By: A Friend http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-41022 A Friend Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:46:55 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-41022 Bismillah. Here is a good, 15-minute video (available in different languages) put together by Muslim Advocates in regards to when questioned by government officials at one's home or at the airport. Scenarios include what not to do, and what to do. *Warning*: There is some music throughout the presentation. http://www.muslimadvocates.org/get_involved/got_rights.html Bismillah. Here is a good, 15-minute video (available in different languages) put together by Muslim Advocates in regards to when questioned by government officials at one’s home or at the airport. Scenarios include what not to do, and what to do.

*Warning*: There is some music throughout the presentation.

http://www.muslimadvocates.org/get_involved/got_rights.html

]]> By: Hassan http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-19617 Hassan Thu, 08 May 2008 23:53:24 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-19617 http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?videoId=167606 http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?videoId=167606

]]> By: Alia http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-19561 Alia Wed, 07 May 2008 21:50:08 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-19561 Assalaamu `alaykum Dr. Ali, I didn't see this article sooner but I'm glad I read it now. It's usually exactly as you described in the article however the most recent time I traveled internationally they did something strange. When I was in the security line, after putting my bags on the belt suddenly all the workers present called out BRAVO! They continued to do this in an echo fashion until the "Bravo!" shout reached the line at the farthest end. Then they pulled me and other Muslims aside and took us to the cubicle. I politely asked them what that shouting was all about and they said it's something called "CODE BRAVO" which is a "security measure." What exactly that meant I never found out, but we did come to learn that "Code Bravo" was another way of saying the Muslims would be missing their flight. And, of course, after being questioned/searched/and made to wait they promised us we wouldn't be missing flight. So when they finally let us go we ran to the terminal and found out the flight was long gone. So if you ever hear a Code Bravo (and I pray that you don't!) then 'bravo' to you -you get the chance to practice your patience.. :) BarakAllahu feek for the helpful information and I look forward to reading more from you on Muslim Matters! `Alia Assalaamu `alaykum Dr. Ali,

I didn’t see this article sooner but I’m glad I read it now. It’s usually exactly as you described in the article however the most recent time I traveled internationally they did something strange. When I was in the security line, after putting my bags on the belt suddenly all the workers present called out BRAVO! They continued to do this in an echo fashion until the “Bravo!” shout reached the line at the farthest end. Then they pulled me and other Muslims aside and took us to the cubicle. I politely asked them what that shouting was all about and they said it’s something called “CODE BRAVO” which is a “security measure.” What exactly that meant I never found out, but we did come to learn that “Code Bravo” was another way of saying the Muslims would be missing their flight.
And, of course, after being questioned/searched/and made to wait they promised us we wouldn’t be missing flight. So when they finally let us go we ran to the terminal and found out the flight was long gone.

So if you ever hear a Code Bravo (and I pray that you don’t!) then ‘bravo’ to you -you get the chance to practice your patience.. :)

BarakAllahu feek for the helpful information and I look forward to reading more from you on Muslim Matters!

`Alia

]]> By: Neela Chakravartula http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-18559 Neela Chakravartula Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:30:38 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-18559 Hello, I am an attorney at the Asian Law Caucus in San Francisco. The Asian Law Caucus and Stanford Law School Immigrants Rights Clinic are documenting instances in which Northern California residents have been subject to intrusive questioning by U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents when returning to the country after traveling abroad. Please contact us if you have experienced excessive or repeated searches or questioning or believe you were singled out by Customs agents because of your ethnicity, religion, or other similar reason. We would also like to hear your story if your company or organization has been affected by Customs and Border Protection policies. Please call the Asian Law Caucus at (415) 848-7714 or email neelac@asianlawcaucus.org. For further information about our work on this issue, please visit www.asianlawcaucus.org. Hello,

I am an attorney at the Asian Law Caucus in San Francisco. The Asian Law Caucus and Stanford Law School Immigrants Rights Clinic are documenting instances in which Northern California residents have been subject to intrusive questioning by U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents when returning to the country after traveling abroad.

Please contact us if you have experienced excessive or repeated searches or questioning or believe you were singled out by Customs agents because of your ethnicity, religion, or other similar reason. We would also like to hear your story if your company or organization has been affected by Customs and Border Protection policies. Please call the Asian Law Caucus at (415) 848-7714 or email neelac@asianlawcaucus.org. For further information about our work on this issue, please visit http://www.asianlawcaucus.org.

]]> By: Muslamics http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-16877 Muslamics Mon, 07 Apr 2008 03:54:15 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-16877 Muslamics Post- Price of Being Muslim- [...TRIPS from DHS off the ground. (MuslimMatters has a good discussion)...] Muslamics Post- Price of Being Muslim- [...TRIPS from DHS off the ground. (MuslimMatters has a good discussion)...]

]]> By: nuqtah http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-16836 nuqtah Sun, 06 Apr 2008 08:18:13 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/24/are-you-on-the-list-about-dhs-watch-lists-how-to-get-off-them/#comment-16836 assalamu alaikum JzakAllahu khair for this piece. assalamu alaikum JzakAllahu khair for this piece.

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