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	<title>Comments on: The Forgotten Hijab Ban: &#8220;I just couldn&#8217;t take it off another time!&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: The Forgotten French Hijab Ban &#124; Jamaal and Muslema&#039;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/14/the-forgotten-hijab-ban-i-just-couldnt-take-it-off-another-time/#comment-100735</link>
		<dc:creator>The Forgotten French Hijab Ban &#124; Jamaal and Muslema&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2011 00:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in todays world u c that if v dont use hijab, der r so many hasitation and harasment to d girls r women</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in todays world u c that if v dont use hijab, der r so many hasitation and harasment to d girls r women</p>
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		<title>By: Mantiki</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/14/the-forgotten-hijab-ban-i-just-couldnt-take-it-off-another-time/#comment-90003</link>
		<dc:creator>Mantiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree totally with you Maverick.  But if you read carefully Mary&#039;s post, she goes much further than simple modesty.  For example, she &quot;includes the outer garment, because if it is decorated it will attract menâ€™s attention to her.&quot;  She includes the requirement to wear &quot;broad&quot; garments, &quot;gowns&quot; underneath &quot;thick Egyptian materials, lest the &quot;size of the bones&quot; are displayed, and also that women should &quot;stay in your houses&quot;.  This is beyond modesty and towards psychological imprisonment. Really there is no need for my &quot;hyperbole&quot; but Muslims are too polite or afraid to take issue with extreme views drawn from their sayings and history.  

For goodness sake, she even quotes sayings in support of slavery!  Look again and think or else you may also appear to support such practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree totally with you Maverick.  But if you read carefully Mary&#8217;s post, she goes much further than simple modesty.  For example, she &#8220;includes the outer garment, because if it is decorated it will attract menâ€™s attention to her.&#8221;  She includes the requirement to wear &#8220;broad&#8221; garments, &#8220;gowns&#8221; underneath &#8220;thick Egyptian materials, lest the &#8220;size of the bones&#8221; are displayed, and also that women should &#8220;stay in your houses&#8221;.  This is beyond modesty and towards psychological imprisonment. Really there is no need for my &#8220;hyperbole&#8221; but Muslims are too polite or afraid to take issue with extreme views drawn from their sayings and history.  </p>
<p>For goodness sake, she even quotes sayings in support of slavery!  Look again and think or else you may also appear to support such practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Maverick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maverick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mantiki, cool it with the hyperbole please.

Hijab is neither impractical nor was it ever advised that it must be &quot;unattractive&quot;. The key purpose of clothes is two-fold - for modesty and protection against the elements, and a third purpose being beautification. 

Common sense amongst women is to have modesty. Hence you see women being self-conscious about themselves if they&#039;re wearing short or revealing clothes while being around a bunch of ogling men. 

If women want to be in a position of equality, its by dressing respectfully and competing with men by using their mind. This is the case in every culture - whether Eastern or Western. As you may even notice (depending on your professional experience) here in the West, women in the workplace who move up through the ranks are those that have the ability to lead with professional behavior. Those who dress with revealing cleavage or short skirts are just viewed as objects and treated with veiled contempt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mantiki, cool it with the hyperbole please.</p>
<p>Hijab is neither impractical nor was it ever advised that it must be &#8220;unattractive&#8221;. The key purpose of clothes is two-fold &#8211; for modesty and protection against the elements, and a third purpose being beautification. </p>
<p>Common sense amongst women is to have modesty. Hence you see women being self-conscious about themselves if they&#8217;re wearing short or revealing clothes while being around a bunch of ogling men. </p>
<p>If women want to be in a position of equality, its by dressing respectfully and competing with men by using their mind. This is the case in every culture &#8211; whether Eastern or Western. As you may even notice (depending on your professional experience) here in the West, women in the workplace who move up through the ranks are those that have the ability to lead with professional behavior. Those who dress with revealing cleavage or short skirts are just viewed as objects and treated with veiled contempt.</p>
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		<title>By: Umar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Umar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To say:
Men = women
is like saying:
Apples = orages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To say:<br />
Men = women<br />
is like saying:<br />
Apples = orages.</p>
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		<title>By: Mantiki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mantiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 01:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Rose you are over-reacting.  In my opinion the disguise the shape of the female body with impractical, stifling and unnattractive covering is a gross sexualisation of women.  It sends a message that women are nothing but powerful sexual objects that they must be completely and utterly rendered unrecognisable as human beings.  

The extremist fashion solutions you would like to impose on the world represents a distortion and perversion of common sense that locks women into a position of inequality and self-shame.

Its like requiring us to liscence and lock-up blunt butter knives because there is potential for them to be used as weapons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Rose you are over-reacting.  In my opinion the disguise the shape of the female body with impractical, stifling and unnattractive covering is a gross sexualisation of women.  It sends a message that women are nothing but powerful sexual objects that they must be completely and utterly rendered unrecognisable as human beings.  </p>
<p>The extremist fashion solutions you would like to impose on the world represents a distortion and perversion of common sense that locks women into a position of inequality and self-shame.</p>
<p>Its like requiring us to liscence and lock-up blunt butter knives because there is potential for them to be used as weapons.</p>
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		<title>By: Mantiki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mantiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 01:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O Z-Man what is the meaning behind your post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O Z-Man what is the meaning behind your post?</p>
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		<title>By: Z-Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z-Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 04:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O Muslims do not be disheartened by that which is not under your control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O Muslims do not be disheartened by that which is not under your control.</p>
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		<title>By: yeah right</title>
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		<dc:creator>yeah right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 02:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, actually, wanting to be acceptable to other members of one&#039;s culture is NORMAL.  It is part of the human condition.  Why does modern society want us all to turn into thoughtless robots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, actually, wanting to be acceptable to other members of one&#8217;s culture is NORMAL.  It is part of the human condition.  Why does modern society want us all to turn into thoughtless robots?</p>
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		<title>By: yeah right</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2008/03/14/the-forgotten-hijab-ban-i-just-couldnt-take-it-off-another-time/#comment-89863</link>
		<dc:creator>yeah right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 02:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The United States is a secular nation also.  Regardless of what Christian fundamentalists say, the Constitution very clearly spells out that the government is to be secular.  Just like France.  And yet the United States allows religious freedom.

I am of French heritage and I&#039;m ashamed of my ancestral country.  France helped the U.S. become a free nation and then followed in our footsteps becoming independent itself, why doesn&#039;t it understand this basic concept?

You can&#039;t ever learn how to associate with people on humanistic grounds if you assume everybody is alike because you&#039;ve outlawed all the various ways in which they could possibly look and act different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The United States is a secular nation also.  Regardless of what Christian fundamentalists say, the Constitution very clearly spells out that the government is to be secular.  Just like France.  And yet the United States allows religious freedom.</p>
<p>I am of French heritage and I&#8217;m ashamed of my ancestral country.  France helped the U.S. become a free nation and then followed in our footsteps becoming independent itself, why doesn&#8217;t it understand this basic concept?</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t ever learn how to associate with people on humanistic grounds if you assume everybody is alike because you&#8217;ve outlawed all the various ways in which they could possibly look and act different.</p>
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