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“I don’t think it’s necessarily fair for Muslims to point to the Neturei Karta as an example of how Jews should think.”

I respectfully disagree. When some people generalize about Muslims, they use examples of people who do not practice Islam or what the Qur’an teaches. This group of Jews, though maybe not the majority, tells us what the religion of Judaism teaches about Israel/its statehood.

Thus, I think it’s fair because we are clarifying this is from the religious sense. Sure, most Jews are not of this leaning, but that is the ENTIRE point: the controversy of Israel according to Jews who are pro-Israel is NOT about religion; it’s about politics!

Allah knows best.

Asalaamu alaikum. I agree with Sabir that it’s unproductive and probably misleading to hold up a very tiny fringe group such as the Neturei Karta as representing the “true” Jewish religious belief about Israel. We wouldn’t want the same done to us, especially if the example is a tiny fringe group that claims (partly through their bogus “ijtihad”) to speak the hidden truth about Islam.

It was not my intent to present this as an example of the Jewish majority, or even of most Orthodox Jews.

People however do not realize that there is a considerable number of Jews who oppose the Zionist movement.

Zionists are quick to label any such Jews as “self-hating Jews” to marginalize them.

Finally, some of the points that he makes are interesting, such as his claim that Orthodox Jews take exceptions from military service in Israel and that pre-1948, Jews in Palestine lived in peace with their Muslim neighbors.

Mr. Abu Bakr. Re; your discussion of Neturei Karta. NK actually represent a tiny percentage of worldwide jewry. No more than a few hundred. Like many jews with opinions, they’re noisy and fascinating to non jews. Hence the disproportionate media coverage. Although some jews say they’re self-hating, that’s too simplistic. They are (in my opinion) overly religous, and overly literal in their interpretation of the bible. They simply believe that according to the bible, jews may only return to Israel when the Messiah returns. Until then jews should not live in a jewish state. While true they don’t do military service (they would make lousy soldiers anyway) many other very religous Israelis also don’t do any military servive. The last statement that you make (actually they made) is grossly incorrect. Jews and moslims did not live together in peace before 1948. Fighting was occuring at the beginning of the 1900′s and got progressively heavier up to 1948 and beyond. One could say that a full fledged war was occuring since 1945, the end of WW2.