Comments on: Nothing But Pure Ignorance of Self-Flagellation on Ashoorah (Ashura) http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/ Discourses in the Intellectual Traditions, Political Situation, and Social Ethics of Muslim Life Wed, 23 May 2012 14:21:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: B http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-96682 B Wed, 27 Apr 2011 01:31:24 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-96682 Why are you shocked there is a red light district in Lahore??? Men the world over are hipocrites and will use and abuse women, why should the so called religious muslim community be any different?? Why are you shocked there is a red light district in Lahore???
Men the world over are hipocrites and will use and abuse women, why should the so called religious muslim community be any different??

]]> By: seyed hosein http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-90927 seyed hosein Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:07:42 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-90927 im an iranian and shia this practice(beating head by poniard) in both religion shia and low of iran is forbidden. this is a Traditional and blockheading practice but unfortunately somewhen (less than 1% in ashoora) done. whole effort of leaders of shia and government is to naught of this practice. the propaganda for magnify this practice vs concept of ashoora is islamophobia . invited all of you t study about imam hossein and ashoora and reasons of his rising without any zealotry . and again emphasis that shia opponent with this practice. im an iranian and shia
this practice(beating head by poniard) in both religion shia and low of iran is forbidden. this is a Traditional and blockheading practice but unfortunately somewhen (less than 1% in ashoora) done. whole effort of leaders of shia and government is to naught of this practice. the propaganda for magnify this practice vs concept of ashoora is islamophobia . invited all of you t study about imam hossein and ashoora and reasons of his rising without any zealotry . and again emphasis that shia opponent with this practice.

]]> By: A Pakistani Brother http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-85506 A Pakistani Brother Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:42:09 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-85506 Rafidis - note: not all Shias are Rafidis - are without a shadow of a doubt non-Muslims. The practice of "matam" or self flagellation is fairly common in their communities with varying levels. Some just beat themselves - which is pretty gay if you ask me - or some bruise and cut themselves, which is quite simply barbaric. While the episode of Karbala was certainly unfortunate and truly a sad event in the history of this ummah, it in no way means you should beat yourself up and engage in fake crying. Yes fake crying. Fake crying is an art that the Rafidis of today have mastered. It's pretty comical if you're looking for some entertainment. Anyways ... Rafidis – note: not all Shias are Rafidis – are without a shadow of a doubt non-Muslims. The practice of “matam” or self flagellation is fairly common in their communities with varying levels. Some just beat themselves – which is pretty gay if you ask me – or some bruise and cut themselves, which is quite simply barbaric. While the episode of Karbala was certainly unfortunate and truly a sad event in the history of this ummah, it in no way means you should beat yourself up and engage in fake crying. Yes fake crying. Fake crying is an art that the Rafidis of today have mastered. It’s pretty comical if you’re looking for some entertainment. Anyways …

]]> By: Amad http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-85200 Amad Mon, 20 Dec 2010 05:33:14 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-85200 strange strange

]]> By: Brother http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-85137 Brother Mon, 20 Dec 2010 02:58:19 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-85137 Also, FYI, no one called themselves Shia or Sunni during the prophets time as far as I know. I also know that there are Sunnis that do graveworshipping. So personally, calling Shia's non-Muslim is unfair unless it is obvious, i.e. make it known, that they commit shirk. I am not a scholar, but if someone on this message board is, please enlighten me if I think wrong. Also, FYI, no one called themselves Shia or Sunni during the prophets time as far as I know. I also know that there are Sunnis that do graveworshipping. So personally, calling Shia’s non-Muslim is unfair unless it is obvious, i.e. make it known, that they commit shirk. I am not a scholar, but if someone on this message board is, please enlighten me if I think wrong.

]]> By: Brother http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-85135 Brother Mon, 20 Dec 2010 02:54:41 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-85135 I have a shia friend that when i asked him why shias beat their heads with knives and do that kind of stuff. He told me that showing sorrow by hitting your self with an open palm was ok, the stuff that the shias do with the knives is extreme and not allowed. So if my friend is "mainstream" shia, then obviously the people in these pics are not. I have a shia friend that when i asked him why shias beat their heads with knives and do that kind of stuff. He told me that showing sorrow by hitting your self with an open palm was ok, the stuff that the shias do with the knives is extreme and not allowed. So if my friend is “mainstream” shia, then obviously the people in these pics are not.

]]> By: AsimG http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-85103 AsimG Mon, 20 Dec 2010 01:49:30 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-85103 blocked in the US blocked in the US

]]> By: amad http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-84975 amad Sun, 19 Dec 2010 20:30:17 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-84975 The ignorance continues to this day... live proof caught on TV of children being subjected to barbaric rituals. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2-AvfppB88 The ignorance continues to this day…
live proof caught on TV of children being subjected to barbaric rituals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2-AvfppB88

]]> By: Bilal Khan http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-84878 Bilal Khan Sun, 19 Dec 2010 15:59:30 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-84878 First of all I am a Sunni and I think that despite all the differences everyone may want to point out about the practices during the Ashura, we are all followers of the same faith and must remember that. We only promote external condemnation of our religion as a whole if we fail to support our own brothers and sisters of the faith.. Peace be upon you. First of all I am a Sunni and I think that despite all the differences everyone may want to point out about the practices during the Ashura, we are all followers of the same faith and must remember that. We only promote external condemnation of our religion as a whole if we fail to support our own brothers and sisters of the faith..

Peace be upon you.

]]> By: Amad http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-84264 Amad Fri, 17 Dec 2010 21:37:07 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/19/nothing-but-pure-ignorance-of-self-flagellation-on-ashoorah-ashura/#comment-84264 The Prophet (S) also cried at the death of his son Ibrahim. Is that a sunnah we should follow too? The Prophet (S) also cried at the death of his son Ibrahim. Is that a sunnah we should follow too?

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