Comments on: The Anti-Ron Paul Coalition http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/ Discourses in the Intellectual Traditions, Political Situation, and Social Ethics of Muslim Life Wed, 23 May 2012 07:02:52 +0000 hourly 1 By: ukhti http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-12073 ukhti Sat, 05 Jan 2008 14:38:31 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-12073 Jinnzaman, why exactly are we supposed to be for a liberal victory. I don't get why Muslim automatically support liberals. The only thing I can guess is the immigration issue, which shows how Muslims don't really care about the welfare of the community here(both Muslim and non). Personally I am a conservative and I feel that Ron Paul is the only conservative in the running. The rest are all the same, both parties follow neo-con interventionist foreign policy, both parties have out of control government spending agendas so how exactly are the Republicans conservative? Jinnzaman, why exactly are we supposed to be for a liberal victory. I don’t get why Muslim automatically support liberals. The only thing I can guess is the immigration issue, which shows how Muslims don’t really care about the welfare of the community here(both Muslim and non).

Personally I am a conservative and I feel that Ron Paul is the only conservative in the running. The rest are all the same, both parties follow neo-con interventionist foreign policy, both parties have out of control government spending agendas so how exactly are the Republicans conservative?

]]> By: br. Ibrahim http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-12019 br. Ibrahim Fri, 04 Jan 2008 04:22:51 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-12019 Ron Paul just got 10% in Iowa, behind of everyone except Guiliani. (Huckabee won) If you ask me, it's really not surprising. Not enought urban(minded) population. Ron Paul just got 10% in Iowa, behind of everyone except Guiliani. (Huckabee won)

If you ask me, it’s really not surprising. Not enought urban(minded) population.

]]> By: Jinnzaman http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-12013 Jinnzaman Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:10:51 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-12013 Umm Layth, Ron Paul has no chance at winning. The only thing he can do is to detract votes from the other candidates. Voting for him will probably end up taking votes away from other liberal candidates, resulting in a conservative victory. Umm Layth,

Ron Paul has no chance at winning. The only thing he can do is to detract votes from the other candidates. Voting for him will probably end up taking votes away from other liberal candidates, resulting in a conservative victory.

]]> By: L.Step http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-12001 L.Step Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:14:39 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-12001 I am a Roman Catholic (not a very good one!) but anyhow, if I were a Muslim I would vote for Ron Paul. The Muslims are good people, and certainly their religion is to be respected. To have the damned neocon media constantly harping about "Islamofascism" is disgusting. Ron Paul made the "mistake" of not paying homage to AIPAC. He also said that no more American money would go to either Israel or any other Middle East nations. This got the American Israelis upset (what, no free lunch?) and they closed him out of their media -- or ridiculed him. He is a good man, and not against either Israel or any Muslim nations... he just wants to get our troops out of their affairs. I wonder how many of the people who fume about "terrorists" would deal with the presence of a German army base near Sioux City? Or how long would they bear constant bombing? (Paul's remark on this during a debate really heated up Rudy Guiliani (whose close friend and advisor is Norman Podhoretz). The reason he is shunned and marginalized is because he has the guts to say what must be said: that the war in Iraq and our presence in the whole of the Middle East, and our threats against the ancient culture of Iran (they have no nukes, but Israel has 300!) cannot be justified. Time to come home. Vote for Paul -- he's our best hope. Hillary is nothing more than Bush in a pants suit, and crazy McCain -- well, the less said the better. (He wants Lieberman for V-P!) I am a Roman Catholic (not a very good one!) but anyhow, if I were a Muslim I would vote for Ron Paul. The Muslims are good people, and certainly their religion is to be respected. To have the damned neocon media constantly harping about “Islamofascism” is disgusting. Ron Paul made the “mistake” of not paying homage to AIPAC. He also said that no more American money would go to either Israel or any other Middle East nations. This got the American Israelis upset (what, no free lunch?) and they closed him out of their media — or ridiculed him. He is a good man, and not against either Israel or any Muslim nations… he just wants to get our troops out of their affairs. I wonder how many of the people who fume about “terrorists” would deal with the presence of a German army base near Sioux City? Or how long would they bear constant bombing? (Paul’s remark on this during a debate really heated up Rudy Guiliani (whose close friend and advisor is Norman Podhoretz). The reason he is shunned and marginalized is because he has the guts to say what must be said: that the war in Iraq and our presence in the whole of the Middle East, and our threats against the ancient culture of Iran (they have no nukes, but Israel has 300!) cannot be justified. Time to come home. Vote for Paul — he’s our best hope. Hillary is nothing more than Bush in a pants suit, and crazy McCain — well, the less said the better. (He wants Lieberman for V-P!)

]]> By: Umm Layth http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-11991 Umm Layth Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:31:47 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-11991 That is your opinion jinnzaman. That is your opinion jinnzaman.

]]> By: Jinnzaman http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-11974 Jinnzaman Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:01:29 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-11974 Voting for Ron Paul will be the equivalent of flushing your vote down the toilet. Its a waste of a vote. Voting for Ron Paul will be the equivalent of flushing your vote down the toilet. Its a waste of a vote.

]]> By: inexplicabletimelessness http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-11969 inexplicabletimelessness Thu, 03 Jan 2008 07:57:45 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-11969 Admitting flaws and weaknesses in candidates in fact makes them appear more human and, to a certain extent, likeable. Of course, they shouldn't be major flaws such as Giuliani's neocon views or some candidates' interventionist foreign policy/continued support of Iraq War. But I think honestly, the 2008 elections will be to choose not who is perfect (because no one who is running is perfect), but who is it that is BETTER than the rest. Allah knows best. Admitting flaws and weaknesses in candidates in fact makes them appear more human and, to a certain extent, likeable. Of course, they shouldn’t be major flaws such as Giuliani’s neocon views or some candidates’ interventionist foreign policy/continued support of Iraq War. But I think honestly, the 2008 elections will be to choose not who is perfect (because no one who is running is perfect), but who is it that is BETTER than the rest.

Allah knows best.

]]> By: Ahmad AlFarsi http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-11962 Ahmad AlFarsi Thu, 03 Jan 2008 04:46:34 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-11962 where “end student visas from terrorist nations” is mentioned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-iJKwskH4 Interesting take on it here: http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/12/29/ron-pauls-disgraceful-ad/ where “end student visas from terrorist nations” is mentioned:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-iJKwskH4

Interesting take on it here:

http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/12/29/ron-pauls-disgraceful-ad/

]]> By: I A S http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-11961 I A S Thu, 03 Jan 2008 04:38:51 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-11961 Salaam. I, too have found Ron Paul's candidacy not only interesting, but also worth telling others about, especially other Muslims. I first caught glimpse of him during a news report about him meeting with an Arab American group in Michigan (probably the same ones who block voted for the present administration in 2000). Not really paying attention to the group, I did take note of his position - at least to his audience - on the U.S. military presence IN THE WORLD, where he supported not only bringing U.S. forces from Iraq and Afghanistan, but from all other military postings around the world. I also find his stance on the use of trade and commerce to establish and maintain foreign relations rather than militarism and brinksmanship. Of additional particular note is his position on the North American Union, which if you are not aware of it, should find out . . . . quickly! ! Another point of concern that I wish to point out is that while you may bring attention to certain candidates' views, it is equally, indeed more important that you encourage Muslims in the U.S. and even abroad to at least register to vote. Even if we do not care to actively engage in the political process, by not at least registering, we essentially disenfanchise ourselves from everything that can be done for us . . . . and open our selves up for anything that can be done to us. Salaam. I, too have found Ron Paul’s candidacy not only interesting, but also worth telling others about, especially other Muslims. I first caught glimpse of him during a news report about him meeting with an Arab American group in Michigan (probably the same ones who block voted for the present administration in 2000). Not really paying attention to the group, I did take note of his position – at least to his audience – on the U.S. military presence IN THE WORLD, where he supported not only bringing U.S. forces from Iraq and Afghanistan, but from all other military postings around the world.

I also find his stance on the use of trade and commerce to establish and maintain foreign relations rather than militarism and brinksmanship.

Of additional particular note is his position on the North American Union, which if you are not aware of it, should find out . . . . quickly! !

Another point of concern that I wish to point out is that while you may bring attention to certain candidates’ views, it is equally, indeed more important that you encourage Muslims in the U.S. and even abroad to at least register to vote. Even if we do not care to actively engage in the political process, by not at least registering, we essentially disenfanchise ourselves from everything that can be done for us . . . . and open our selves up for anything that can be done to us.

]]> By: Siraaj http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-11960 Siraaj Thu, 03 Jan 2008 04:15:42 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2008/01/01/the-anti-ron-paul-coalition/#comment-11960 I think Ron Paul, for the most part is philosophically consistent, but I'd make sure to keep in mind he's still a politician. Tim Russert recently interviewed him, and went deep into his voting record and called him out on a number of pork bills he sponsored in his district. Paul, for the first time in my recollection, was sputtering for answers and was not his usual self - very similar to Kucinich's run-on self-interrupted answer to Russert's question about seeing a UFO. He is a a politician, though, and whenever he wants to push a position that he believes in, and he knows that others do not, he'll call it unconstitutional and leave it to states to sort out. That's not necessarily a knock on the guy, just something I've noticed. I still like him better than all the other candidates. Siraaj I think Ron Paul, for the most part is philosophically consistent, but I’d make sure to keep in mind he’s still a politician.

Tim Russert recently interviewed him, and went deep into his voting record and called him out on a number of pork bills he sponsored in his district. Paul, for the first time in my recollection, was sputtering for answers and was not his usual self – very similar to Kucinich’s run-on self-interrupted answer to Russert’s question about seeing a UFO.

He is a a politician, though, and whenever he wants to push a position that he believes in, and he knows that others do not, he’ll call it unconstitutional and leave it to states to sort out. That’s not necessarily a knock on the guy, just something I’ve noticed. I still like him better than all the other candidates.

Siraaj

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