The Anti-Ron Paul Coalition

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   ibnabeeomar

   January 1, 2008 at 5:14 PM

   ron paul’s interesting. i perused his website, and i’ve got to say, his foreign policy stuff is on target. the only thing that worries me is his domestic policies, with scaling back of healthcare, clamping down on immigration, etc.

   but i think his foreign policy stances probably alone bring enough benefit to support him over the other candidates.

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   Ahmad AlFarsi

   January 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM

   I agree… given how much foreign policy of the US has been afflicting the Ummah, I will easily look over his domestic policies.

   The real question is: Does he stand any chance *whatsoever* to win the Rep. primaries?

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   Ayesha

   January 1, 2008 at 6:51 PM

   I do not think revoking Patriot act, advocating sound money, separation of church and state, religious freedom are bad domestic policies. Moreover income tax which we pay, that goes to just pay the interest that government incurs when borrowing money from banks, is legal anyways. Getting rid of federal reserve would be good step as well. (watch Aron Russo documentary “America from Freedom to fascism” online).

   Also Ron Paul suggested something which we muslims always considered good. He said America would have been better to get rid of slavery by buying them and freeing them, as done by most of other advanced countries, rather than fighting civil war and causing lingering hatred. Islam always encouraged this route of freeing slaves.

   I find his domestic policy most reasonable than any other candidate, freedom and personal responsibility is good. We can not do any good to rest of ummah when we ourselves in trouble here, and we need to work for our survival here first.

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   Siraaj Muhammad

   January 2, 2008 at 12:21 AM

   Here’s just a big old guess on my part, but since Ron Paul left himself some wiggle room to run as an independent should he not receive the Republican nomination, I think both sides of the political aisle will be pretty scared to see this guy go prime time. If you thought Ross Perot could take votes away, watch what Paul does.

   Siraaj

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   br. Ibrahim

   January 2, 2008 at 1:42 AM

   Never in my lifetime have I seen a presidential candidate with so much honesty, genuineness, sincerity and real no-nonsense attitude than Ron Paul.

   Every other (plausible) candidate I’ve ever seen has been nothing more than a robot. It’s truly refreshing. He’s not concerned with soundbytes and cliches. Phrases like “Invest in our future” and such have finally given way to intelligent, logical, and meaningful discussion.

   That being said, I’m not sure we should jump the gun and start thinking that the foreign policy would improve dramatically if he got elected. I think it’s a very romantic notion to think that the President is in sole control of making those kinds of decisions.

   (By the way, I agree that there’s definitely a door still open for him to run as an indy. If he did, I’m sure he could make Ross Perot look like a complete joke [even moreso])

   Unfortunately I don’t think the setup of the political system in this country is presently equipped to handle such ‘realness’, for lack of a better term. That’s why everyone’s trying to belittle, ignore, and even defame him; they all realize his numbers and are really getting scared!

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   Ahmad AlFarsi

   January 2, 2008 at 11:28 PM

   Assalaamu alaykum,

   I just watched a Ron Paul ad that said he wants to “end student visas from terrorist nations” and “end birthright citizenship.” …..

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   Umm Layth

   January 2, 2008 at 11:40 PM

   wa ‘alaykum as salam

   I don’t know about the student visas, but the birthright citizenship I do know of. He wants to stop the immigration problem. And we gotta understand it. The democrats do not hold the solution, they add to the problem.

   Do you know how many illegal people bring their wives here to birth their child? Then it becomes an issue where they seek a ‘right’ to be with their children in this country. I don’t disagree with him on the imigration issue and I’m hispanic. You gotta attack the problem from the root.

   Anyways, Ron Paul rocks.

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   Siraaj

   January 3, 2008 at 12:15 AM

   I think Ron Paul, for the most part is philosophically consistent, but I’d make sure to keep in mind he’s still a politician.

   Tim Russert recently interviewed him, and went deep into his voting record and called him out on a number of pork bills he sponsored in his district. Paul, for the first time in my recollection, was sputtering for answers and was not his usual self – very similar to Kucinich’s run-on self-interrupted answer to Russert’s question about seeing a UFO.

   He is a a politician, though, and whenever he wants to push a position that he believes in, and he knows that others do not, he’ll call it unconstitutional and leave it to states to sort out. That’s not necessarily a knock on the guy, just something I’ve noticed. I still like him better than all the other candidates.

   Siraaj

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    I A S

    January 3, 2008 at 12:38 AM

    Salaam. I, too have found Ron Paul’s candidacy not only interesting, but also worth telling others about, especially other Muslims. I first caught glimpse of him during a news report about him meeting with an Arab American group in Michigan (probably the same ones who block voted for the present administration in 2000). Not really paying attention to the group, I did take note of his position – at least to his audience – on the U.S. military presence IN THE WORLD, where he supported not only bringing U.S. forces from Iraq and Afghanistan, but from all other military postings around the world.

    I also find his stance on the use of trade and commerce to establish and maintain foreign relations rather than militarism and brinksmanship.

    Of additional particular note is his position on the North American Union, which if you are not aware of it, should find out . . . . quickly! !

    Another point of concern that I wish to point out is that while you may bring attention to certain candidates’ views, it is equally, indeed more important that you encourage Muslims in the U.S. and even abroad to at least register to vote. Even if we do not care to actively engage in the political process, by not at least registering, we essentially disenfanchise ourselves from everything that can be done for us . . . . and open our selves up for anything that can be done to us.

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    Ahmad AlFarsi

    January 3, 2008 at 12:46 AM

    where “end student visas from terrorist nations” is mentioned:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-iJKwskH4

    Interesting take on it here:

    http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/12/29/ron-pauls-disgraceful-ad/

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    inexplicabletimelessness

    January 3, 2008 at 3:57 AM

    Admitting flaws and weaknesses in candidates in fact makes them appear more human and, to a certain extent, likeable. Of course, they shouldn’t be major flaws such as Giuliani’s neocon views or some candidates’ interventionist foreign policy/continued support of Iraq War. But I think honestly, the 2008 elections will be to choose not who is perfect (because no one who is running is perfect), but who is it that is BETTER than the rest.

    Allah knows best.

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    Jinnzaman

    January 3, 2008 at 8:01 AM

    Voting for Ron Paul will be the equivalent of flushing your vote down the toilet. Its a waste of a vote.

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    Umm Layth

    January 3, 2008 at 12:31 PM

    That is your opinion jinnzaman.

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    L.Step

    January 3, 2008 at 2:14 PM

    I am a Roman Catholic (not a very good one!) but anyhow, if I were a Muslim I would vote for Ron Paul. The Muslims are good people, and certainly their religion is to be respected. To have the damned neocon media constantly harping about “Islamofascism” is disgusting. Ron Paul made the “mistake” of not paying homage to AIPAC. He also said that no more American money would go to either Israel or any other Middle East nations. This got the American Israelis upset (what, no free lunch?) and they closed him out of their media — or ridiculed him. He is a good man, and not against either Israel or any Muslim nations… he just wants to get our troops out of their affairs. I wonder how many of the people who fume about “terrorists” would deal with the presence of a German army base near Sioux City? Or how long would they bear constant bombing? (Paul’s remark on this during a debate really heated up Rudy Guiliani (whose close friend and advisor is Norman Podhoretz). The reason he is shunned and marginalized is because he has the guts to say what must be said: that the war in Iraq and our presence in the whole of the Middle East, and our threats against the ancient culture of Iran (they have no nukes, but Israel has 300!) cannot be justified. Time to come home. Vote for Paul — he’s our best hope. Hillary is nothing more than Bush in a pants suit, and crazy McCain — well, the less said the better. (He wants Lieberman for V-P!)

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    Jinnzaman

    January 3, 2008 at 8:10 PM

    Umm Layth,

    Ron Paul has no chance at winning. The only thing he can do is to detract votes from the other candidates. Voting for him will probably end up taking votes away from other liberal candidates, resulting in a conservative victory.

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    br. Ibrahim

    January 4, 2008 at 12:22 AM

    Ron Paul just got 10% in Iowa, behind of everyone except Guiliani. (Huckabee won)

    If you ask me, it’s really not surprising. Not enought urban(minded) population.

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    ukhti

    January 5, 2008 at 10:38 AM

    Jinnzaman, why exactly are we supposed to be for a liberal victory. I don’t get why Muslim automatically support liberals. The only thing I can guess is the immigration issue, which shows how Muslims don’t really care about the welfare of the community here(both Muslim and non).

    Personally I am a conservative and I feel that Ron Paul is the only conservative in the running. The rest are all the same, both parties follow neo-con interventionist foreign policy, both parties have out of control government spending agendas so how exactly are the Republicans conservative?

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