Comments on: The Hijab Story – Tragic Murder of Aqsa Parvez http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/ Discourses in the Intellectual Traditions, Political Situation, and Social Ethics of Muslim Life Wed, 23 May 2012 07:02:52 +0000 hourly 1 By: Cognitive Dissonance: The Psychology of Double Standards around Jared Loughner Arizona Shootings | MuslimMatters.org http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-88931 Cognitive Dissonance: The Psychology of Double Standards around Jared Loughner Arizona Shootings | MuslimMatters.org Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:14:14 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-88931 [...] Muslims become Muslim crimes, or Muslim terrorism, or Muslim bad decisions. Whether a father kills his daughter (=Muslim honor killing)  or a husband beheads his wife (=Muslim domestic abuse), or random [...] [...] Muslims become Muslim crimes, or Muslim terrorism, or Muslim bad decisions. Whether a father kills his daughter (=Muslim honor killing)  or a husband beheads his wife (=Muslim domestic abuse), or random [...]

]]> By: AllEqual http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-38538 AllEqual Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:49:17 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-38538 I just read this entire thread. I came here in an attempt to find out if Aqsa's father has been convicted yet. To me, that is all that is important here. Aqsa deserves justice. Most of the comments here are irrelevant. It is irrelevant to this case if a Sikh or any other person killed their daughter too. It is untrue that other cases aren't publicized. example: Jassi Sidhu www.cbc.ca/fifth/murderedbride The Robert Pickton comments are completely irrelevant too. I am a Canadian; I have known about Pickton since he became a suspect in the murders of all those women, but have just heard about Aqsa Pervez today (Feb 2009) while reading a post on www.muslimcanadiancongress.org It is irrelevant why Aqsa's father killed her as well. Every murderer in Canada should be punished for murder. This is the law. Jassi Sidhu's uncle & mother should be convicted, Aqsa's father (and possibly brother) should be convicted, as well as Robert Pickton and anyone else who thinks it's O.K. to kill women or anyone else for that matter. PERIOD!!! NO MORE EXCUSES! It's all inexcusable. Oh, and all of these women I've mentioned are innocent victims of these crimes. (Aqsa does not need any mercy or forgiveness, she didn't murder anyone.) Comments like that make me sick! That's like saying victims of pedophiles need mercy and forgiveness. Nonsense! I just read this entire thread. I came here in an attempt to find out if Aqsa’s father has been convicted yet. To me, that is all that is important here. Aqsa deserves justice. Most of the comments here are irrelevant.

It is irrelevant to this case if a Sikh or any other person killed their daughter too. It is untrue that other cases aren’t publicized. example: Jassi Sidhu http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/murderedbride The Robert Pickton comments are completely irrelevant too. I am a Canadian; I have known about Pickton since he became a suspect in the murders of all those women, but have just heard about Aqsa Pervez today (Feb 2009) while reading a post on http://www.muslimcanadiancongress.org

It is irrelevant why Aqsa’s father killed her as well. Every murderer in Canada should be punished for murder. This is the law. Jassi Sidhu’s uncle & mother should be convicted, Aqsa’s father (and possibly brother) should be convicted, as well as Robert Pickton and anyone else who thinks it’s O.K. to kill women or anyone else for that matter. PERIOD!!! NO MORE EXCUSES! It’s all inexcusable.

Oh, and all of these women I’ve mentioned are innocent victims of these crimes. (Aqsa does not need any mercy or forgiveness, she didn’t murder anyone.) Comments like that make me sick! That’s like saying victims of pedophiles need mercy and forgiveness. Nonsense!

]]> By: abdul http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-38496 abdul Sun, 15 Feb 2009 03:47:10 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-38496 Hindus involved in serial honor killings. No hindu ever apologised for this. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/8-of-family-beheaded-in-bihar-in-revenge-killing/85046-3.html Hindus involved in serial honor killings. No hindu ever apologised for this.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/8-of-family-beheaded-in-bihar-in-revenge-killing/85046-3.html

]]> By: Shirien http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-18110 Shirien Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:50:22 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-18110 <a href="http://media.www.lsureveille.com/media/storage/paper868/news/2008/04/18/Opinion/honor.Killings.Not.Part.Of.Islamic.Teachings-3333708.shtml?reffeature=popuarstoriestab" rel="nofollow"> Story about Honor Killings in Islam, and Asqa's murder</a> Story about Honor Killings in Islam, and Asqa’s murder

]]> By: storm*candy- http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-17759 storm*candy- Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:45:26 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-17759 first of all i would say that it is wrong tat he killed,buh at the same time the girl was wrong to.why wouldnt wer her hijab she practically makin muslimz look bad.buh nywayz the dad was mad,hurted inside look a muslim nd the daughter nuh wearin hijab?yes he made a mistake buh wat would you do if ur daughter or son didnt wear the hijab or direspect you>?u woldnt ovboiusly kill the buh u will be furious?he didnt mean to kill her it jush came out!no doubt he will be punished after thiz life buh he only wanted the writing thing for his daughter? first of all i would say that it is wrong tat he killed,buh at the same time the girl was wrong to.why wouldnt wer her hijab she practically makin muslimz look bad.buh nywayz the dad was mad,hurted inside look a muslim nd the daughter nuh wearin hijab?yes he made a mistake buh wat would you do if ur daughter or son didnt wear the hijab or direspect you>?u woldnt ovboiusly kill the buh u will be furious?he didnt mean to kill her it jush came out!no doubt he will be punished after thiz life buh he only wanted the writing thing for his daughter?

]]> By: muslimmatters.org » My Challenge to the Houston Chronicle’s Editors http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-14496 muslimmatters.org » My Challenge to the Houston Chronicle’s Editors Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:21:14 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-14496 [...] often we Muslims try to break the mindset that equates crime with religion. How often we explain that honor killings and other forms of domestic violence are not permitted in Islam. It is a [...] [...] often we Muslims try to break the mindset that equates crime with religion. How often we explain that honor killings and other forms of domestic violence are not permitted in Islam. It is a [...]

]]> By: esmat http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-12028 esmat Fri, 04 Jan 2008 09:49:46 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-12028 book seems ok, i do not like islamic classes .. book seems ok, i do not like islamic classes ..

]]> By: ibnabeeomar http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-11931 ibnabeeomar Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:54:21 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-11931 esmat, for more info on abrogation, please read this book: http://store.yahoo.com/islamicbookstore-com/b4260.html or take this class: http://almaghrib.org/seminar_route114.php esmat, for more info on abrogation, please read this book:
http://store.yahoo.com/islamicbookstore-com/b4260.html

or take this class:
http://almaghrib.org/seminar_route114.php

]]> By: Adil Khan http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-11924 Adil Khan Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:25:05 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-11924 Dad burns 3 over marriage. No mention of religion: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080102/ap_on_re_us/apartment_fire Dad burns 3 over marriage. No mention of religion:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080102/ap_on_re_us/apartment_fire

]]> By: esmat http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-11894 esmat Tue, 01 Jan 2008 18:09:48 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/12/12/the-hijab-story-tragic-murder-of-aqsa-parvez/#comment-11894 AnonyMouse, you are nebulizing the whole thing. - Perfect things do not need any further changes, if they need, they are no more perfect. point. On the one side, we are proudly proclaiming, that Bible and Torah has been corrupted.. and I heard no one to respond to abrogation. So, if we are not crystal clear in this, how we can defend islaam? or to resort to physical force, or insults? it is not a good way, in case when we are resorting to this, we have already lost the case. "Simple study of the sciences of the Qur’an sheds immense light on the numerous wisdoms behind the words of Allah and His Commands" and what about abrogation? Did you even look at the site where it is mentioned? You know, that is problem with questions in islam. If one asks - you are told do not ask... or you will receive so vague answers. - yes, and what with contradictions and discrepancies? Can you explain me at least this one?: -And he has set free the two seas; one is fresh and palatable and the other is salty and bitter; and he has built between them a formidable, inviolable barrier. * I have a degree in Physics, I m working in a lab. so, because of scientific proofs, it is harder and harder to believe ... I can cite you at least one well scientifcally proved..that no barrier exists.. even child is able to prove it. so, what about it? but back to the subject. Hejab is mandatory in islam. it is a religious duty.. so if Aqsa refused to wear it, her father has to pray for her.. not to beat her. I do not like the conspiratory theories or the victimisation of the Aqsa - let s take the worst possible scenario, that she was really murdered for not wearing a hejab.. , so make a dawah for fathers - if your daughter do not want to wear hejab, pray for her.. pray from the whole heart.., try to enlight her, but by words, not by fists... otherwise our claims "Let there be no compulsion in religion" will sound hollow... Blessings Esmaat AnonyMouse, you are nebulizing the whole thing. – Perfect things do not need any further changes, if they need, they are no more perfect. point.
On the one side, we are proudly proclaiming, that Bible and Torah has been corrupted.. and I heard no one to respond to abrogation.
So, if we are not crystal clear in this, how we can defend islaam? or to resort to physical force, or insults? it is not a good way, in case when we are resorting to this, we have already lost the case.

“Simple study of the sciences of the Qur’an sheds immense light on the numerous wisdoms behind the words of Allah and His Commands”
and what about abrogation?
Did you even look at the site where it is mentioned?

You know, that is problem with questions in islam. If one asks – you are told do not ask… or you will receive so vague answers. – yes, and what with contradictions and discrepancies?
Can you explain me at least this one?:
-And he has set free the two seas; one is fresh and palatable and the other is salty and bitter; and he has built between them a formidable, inviolable barrier. *

I have a degree in Physics, I m working in a lab. so, because of scientific proofs, it is harder and harder to believe …
I can cite you at least one well scientifcally proved..that no barrier exists.. even child is able to prove it.
so, what about it?

but back to the subject.
Hejab is mandatory in islam. it is a religious duty.. so if Aqsa refused to wear it, her father has to pray for her.. not to beat her.
I do not like the conspiratory theories or the victimisation of the Aqsa – let s take the worst possible scenario, that she was really murdered for not wearing a hejab.. , so make a dawah for fathers – if your daughter do not want to wear hejab, pray for her.. pray from the whole heart.., try to enlight her, but by words, not by fists… otherwise our claims “Let there be no compulsion in religion” will sound hollow…
Blessings
Esmaat

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