“HUM NAY IS UMMAT K KAL PAR QURBAN APNA AAJ KIA………!!!!!!

There’s a good documentary

about white phorsphorus and how it was used in siege on Fallujah.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8905191678365185391&q=duration%3Along+genre%3ADOCUMENTARY&total=31408&start=700&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=35

You need to look towards the history of our most knowledgeable and noble scholars of the past. Abu Hanifa would never accept money from the government and refused a position of leadership because he did not want to entangle Islam with politics, and Imam Ahmad took the same position.

That being said, indeed shari’ah is something that we all would like in our Muslim governments, but there is not a single country in the world that is allowing the most knowledgeable and pious Muslims to lead. However, many governments, such as Pakistan, have a system in place that allows for people to rise into power and implement policy changes. Did Abdul Rashid Ghazi even attempt to go through the established political process before he took an entire school and its students hostage? And would any government in the world, Islamic or otherwise, allow any dissenters the chance to “show them [the government] up,” so to speak? If we are accusing Musharraf of being a tyrant, then we sure as heck can’t use tyrannical methods to reach a solution.

We should all be glad that Pakistan is not like many of these supposedly Muslim countries who go around and rip clothing off of our Muslim women or ban them from wearing proper hijab. We should also be grateful that Pakistan allows Islamic parties to exist in the government, and there is a free and open chance for an Islamic party to garner the support from the populous and actually win influence in the government until it is in control. Change takes time! You can’t just make demands and expect the government to jump on its head in a single evening, especially if you are dealing with supposed tyrants.

My point wasn’t that he spoke out–it was his modus operandi that I found fault with.

P.S. Be careful bro. Throwing the word kufr around is no light matter…

Ibn Hazim Rahimullah says about this

“If a disbeliever conquers a Muslim country, then acknowledges their religion (Islam), but assumes authority over them, and then claims any other religion than Islam,

whoever lives with him, supports, or serves him in any way is a disbeliever, even if he claims to be a Muslim, as aforementioned.” Ibn Hazm, al-Muhalla’: Vol. 13/139-140

The Shaykh had every right to demand the application of Shariah and to oppose the government.

Theres a consensus among all scholars that the difference between Dar Ul Kufr and Dar ul Islam is the Shariah .

Musharaf has changed Pakistand from a land of Islam to a land of Kufr and you thing the Ulamaa should remain silent.

Not only this but Musharaf stabbed the Taliban in the back and kills them under orders from Washington.

And beside this his stabbing the Taliban in the back and killing them where ever he finds them under orders from Washington?

As the Alim Ibn Al Qayyim Rahimullah said,

Anyone having some knowledge about the revelation of Allah, the guidance of the Prophet, sallallahu alayhe wa sallam, and the life of the companions would conclude that those who are pointed at today as the most pious people are in fact the least pious.

Indeed, what kind of piety is there in a person who witnesses Allah’s sanctities being violated, his religion abandoned, the Sunnah of His Messenger shunned, and yet remains still with a cold heart and a shut mouth’ Such a person is like a dumb Shaitan! In the same way the one who talks falsehood is a speaking Shaitan.