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		<title>By: [Comment]Why Some Muslims Are Violent - Page 3 - The Village Square</title>
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		<dc:creator>[Comment]Why Some Muslims Are Violent - Page 3 - The Village Square</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 00:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you chose an interesting choice of words in your post &quot;The solution is not and cannot be to open up the society and have a free for all as in the Western world.&quot;

Funny that the so called &quot;free for all&quot; in the &quot;western world&quot; doesnt involve as internet perversion as muslim countries, as shown by google trends</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you chose an interesting choice of words in your post &#8220;The solution is not and cannot be to open up the society and have a free for all as in the Western world.&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny that the so called &#8220;free for all&#8221; in the &#8220;western world&#8221; doesnt involve as internet perversion as muslim countries, as shown by google trends</p>
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		<title>By: StatsMakeSenseMaybe</title>
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		<dc:creator>StatsMakeSenseMaybe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just came across this stuff. Interesting. 

Last I checked pornography is a 15 billion dollar business in the U.S and pretty high number with other &quot;kaffir nations&quot;. Now, there is a subtle but important difference between the word &quot;porn&quot; and &quot;sex&quot;, exception may be pakistan, as they make the list either way I think.

So I think we should look at a stat that shows who likes to type the word &quot;porn&quot; and see how that measures up in the world.  Or here is link for some good insights....&quot;Western&quot; countries are not safe from these &quot;perversions&quot;, in fact, it is quite the contrary. Even with paramount level of sexual revolution, western nations tend to take a much bolder step in that direction while the rest follow..!


http://familysafemedia.com/pornography_statistics.html#anchor3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came across this stuff. Interesting. </p>
<p>Last I checked pornography is a 15 billion dollar business in the U.S and pretty high number with other &#8220;kaffir nations&#8221;. Now, there is a subtle but important difference between the word &#8220;porn&#8221; and &#8220;sex&#8221;, exception may be pakistan, as they make the list either way I think.</p>
<p>So I think we should look at a stat that shows who likes to type the word &#8220;porn&#8221; and see how that measures up in the world.  Or here is link for some good insights&#8230;.&#8221;Western&#8221; countries are not safe from these &#8220;perversions&#8221;, in fact, it is quite the contrary. Even with paramount level of sexual revolution, western nations tend to take a much bolder step in that direction while the rest follow..!</p>
<p><a href="http://familysafemedia.com/pornography_statistics.html#anchor3" rel="nofollow">http://familysafemedia.com/pornography_statistics.html#anchor3</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ahmad AlFarsi</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2007/07/29/muslims-unfortunate-bragging-rights-for-sex-searches/#comment-8555</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmad AlFarsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi curious,

Incidentally, I am from the very culture that you claim I am mistaken about.  I was born and raised here in America, as a non-Muslim, and I reverted to Islam 4 years ago, all praise and thanks be to Allah.

In reality, most of the non-Muslims I have met feel that a &quot;one-night stand&quot; is perfectly fine.  I know for a fact that there are exceptions, but, based on the non-Muslims I have met (in South Texas, on the East Coast, and in New England), such exceptions are few and far between.  Perhaps you have had a different experience...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi curious,</p>
<p>Incidentally, I am from the very culture that you claim I am mistaken about.  I was born and raised here in America, as a non-Muslim, and I reverted to Islam 4 years ago, all praise and thanks be to Allah.</p>
<p>In reality, most of the non-Muslims I have met feel that a &#8220;one-night stand&#8221; is perfectly fine.  I know for a fact that there are exceptions, but, based on the non-Muslims I have met (in South Texas, on the East Coast, and in New England), such exceptions are few and far between.  Perhaps you have had a different experience&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AnonyMouse</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2007/07/29/muslims-unfortunate-bragging-rights-for-sex-searches/#comment-8508</link>
		<dc:creator>AnonyMouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey curious! Long time no see  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey curious! Long time no see  :)</p>
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		<title>By: curious</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2007/07/29/muslims-unfortunate-bragging-rights-for-sex-searches/#comment-8500</link>
		<dc:creator>curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Ahmad AlFarsi:

You said....

&quot;According to modern day American standards, it is perfectly acceptable to go meet up with a girl randomly, sleep with her (have a one night stand), and carry no responsibility for this action whatsoever. Most Americans believe this is OK… of course as long as they use protection …. see what I mean? To make a long story short, when one derives his or her moral standards from culture (instead of from God), they will end up morally depraved.
&quot;

I have been reading in Islamic forums for quite sometime, and this is a pervasive opinion of muslims ..that all americans/westerners act like this.  This is not the truth, and if anything, far from it.  This is what you see in movies and on the TV, but in reality, most of us, religious or not, do not feel that this behavior is normal or morally sound.  I think that you should be more careful to not generalize a certain population.....it can be harmful to yourself as well as others who do not know the difference.  There are people of low moral standards everywhere...those who leave their wife and children, etc...in all countries and cultures.

curious</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Ahmad AlFarsi:</p>
<p>You said&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;According to modern day American standards, it is perfectly acceptable to go meet up with a girl randomly, sleep with her (have a one night stand), and carry no responsibility for this action whatsoever. Most Americans believe this is OK… of course as long as they use protection …. see what I mean? To make a long story short, when one derives his or her moral standards from culture (instead of from God), they will end up morally depraved.<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>I have been reading in Islamic forums for quite sometime, and this is a pervasive opinion of muslims ..that all americans/westerners act like this.  This is not the truth, and if anything, far from it.  This is what you see in movies and on the TV, but in reality, most of us, religious or not, do not feel that this behavior is normal or morally sound.  I think that you should be more careful to not generalize a certain population&#8230;..it can be harmful to yourself as well as others who do not know the difference.  There are people of low moral standards everywhere&#8230;those who leave their wife and children, etc&#8230;in all countries and cultures.</p>
<p>curious</p>
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		<title>By: muslimmatters.org &#187; Pornography Addiction Among Muslims (Stories &#38; Tips)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 05:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: muslimmatters.org &#187; Pornogrpahy Addiction Among Muslims (Stories &#38; Tips)</title>
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		<dc:creator>muslimmatters.org &#187; Pornogrpahy Addiction Among Muslims (Stories &#38; Tips)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jinnzaman</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2007/07/29/muslims-unfortunate-bragging-rights-for-sex-searches/#comment-5076</link>
		<dc:creator>jinnzaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 03:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amad,

As I said before, the people who look up the term &#039;sex&#039; are not necessarily doing it for the sake of watching pornography. They could be using it to find out more information about sex. Such as about sexual behavior, sexual etiquette, sexual diseases, sexual habits, etc. There&#039;s more to sex then merely the act. If one goes to various fatwa websites, a lot of the questions people ask are pertaining to sex, this doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that people are fornicating or engaging in deviant behavior. 

So while it may be true that &#039;sex&#039; is present on a lot of search engines in a lot of Muslim countries, it isn&#039;t necessarily the case that this has to do solely with pornography or other haram activities.

And again, as I stated, even if this premise is true, the corollary premise that you inferred from it is still not necessary since the people who do use the internet are but a small minority of the general Muslim populace.

Either way, both inferences aren&#039;t necessary nor highly probable. There needs to be more investigation into these types of issues.

masalama</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amad,</p>
<p>As I said before, the people who look up the term &#8216;sex&#8217; are not necessarily doing it for the sake of watching pornography. They could be using it to find out more information about sex. Such as about sexual behavior, sexual etiquette, sexual diseases, sexual habits, etc. There&#8217;s more to sex then merely the act. If one goes to various fatwa websites, a lot of the questions people ask are pertaining to sex, this doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that people are fornicating or engaging in deviant behavior. </p>
<p>So while it may be true that &#8216;sex&#8217; is present on a lot of search engines in a lot of Muslim countries, it isn&#8217;t necessarily the case that this has to do solely with pornography or other haram activities.</p>
<p>And again, as I stated, even if this premise is true, the corollary premise that you inferred from it is still not necessary since the people who do use the internet are but a small minority of the general Muslim populace.</p>
<p>Either way, both inferences aren&#8217;t necessary nor highly probable. There needs to be more investigation into these types of issues.</p>
<p>masalama</p>
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		<title>By: Amad</title>
		<link>http://muslimmatters.org/2007/07/29/muslims-unfortunate-bragging-rights-for-sex-searches/#comment-5008</link>
		<dc:creator>Amad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 19:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salam JZ... good points as always

&lt;blockquote&gt;Firstly, not everyone who searches the word ’sex’ is going to commit zina or watch pornography. You yourself searched to find information about this topic.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The data is &quot;proportional&#039; searches so I think we agree that on average the Pakistanis or Egyptians using the computer are searching for &quot;sex&quot; more than other countries. I disagree with the rationalization that somehow Pakistanis and Egyptians (just to use the 2 examples) have more research to do than other countries. Rather, it will be over-rationalization and perhaps naive to believe that they are searching &quot;sex&quot; for anything other than the &quot;bad sex&quot;. You quoted my example... but really how many people do you think are academically engaging in this? And even if I grant you this, are Egyptians and Pakistanis so academically in sexuality that their proportional searches exceed that of developed nations?

&lt;blockquote&gt;What you are looking at is probably the upper crust of the Muslim world and those people have always tended to be secular and irreligious anyway.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

On this I agree with you. But that is a problem, isn&#039;t it, when our educated and influential class are more into sex than into academics and other ways to improve the situations of our countries? That actually makes this even a more sad situation.

Finally, I also agree that google trends and any &quot;analysis&quot; associated with it has very little scientific value. In fact, google trends tell you not to use their info. in research papers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>salam JZ&#8230; good points as always</p>
<blockquote><p>Firstly, not everyone who searches the word ’sex’ is going to commit zina or watch pornography. You yourself searched to find information about this topic.</p></blockquote>
<p>The data is &#8220;proportional&#8217; searches so I think we agree that on average the Pakistanis or Egyptians using the computer are searching for &#8220;sex&#8221; more than other countries. I disagree with the rationalization that somehow Pakistanis and Egyptians (just to use the 2 examples) have more research to do than other countries. Rather, it will be over-rationalization and perhaps naive to believe that they are searching &#8220;sex&#8221; for anything other than the &#8220;bad sex&#8221;. You quoted my example&#8230; but really how many people do you think are academically engaging in this? And even if I grant you this, are Egyptians and Pakistanis so academically in sexuality that their proportional searches exceed that of developed nations?</p>
<blockquote><p>What you are looking at is probably the upper crust of the Muslim world and those people have always tended to be secular and irreligious anyway.</p></blockquote>
<p>On this I agree with you. But that is a problem, isn&#8217;t it, when our educated and influential class are more into sex than into academics and other ways to improve the situations of our countries? That actually makes this even a more sad situation.</p>
<p>Finally, I also agree that google trends and any &#8220;analysis&#8221; associated with it has very little scientific value. In fact, google trends tell you not to use their info. in research papers!</p>
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