Comments on: Soccers & Hijab, Maybe… But SAUNAS & Hijab?! http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/ Discourses in the Intellectual Traditions, Political Situation, and Social Ethics of Muslim Life Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: zoi http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-5460 zoi Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:44:10 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-5460 I agree with Abu Yasin in ISlam its either a yes or a no, you cannot bend the rules. If you wear a <a href="http://www.muslimbase.com/" rel="nofollow">hijab</A> then wear it properly I agree with Abu Yasin in ISlam its either a yes or a no, you cannot bend the rules. If you wear a hijab then wear it properly

]]> By: Abu Yasin http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-2815 Abu Yasin Thu, 17 May 2007 08:00:47 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-2815 Salaam Alikum Brothers and Sisters, We all keep forgeting that Islam doesn't recognise gray area's it is either black or white and before any give his/ her views they should stop and see in their heart of hearts what they feel and think about it. small matters is huge for a real believer so please just move away from the gray area's and be safe from it. and regard to what sister Mrs M asked about ridding horse's the hadith was ment for Males as they will need it for fighting and travelinh and protecting their sisters, Salaam Alikum Brothers and Sisters,

We all keep forgeting that Islam doesn’t recognise gray area’s it is either black or white and before any give his/ her views they should stop and see in their heart of hearts what they feel and think about it. small matters is huge for a real believer so please just move away from the gray area’s and be safe from it.

and regard to what sister Mrs M asked about ridding horse’s the hadith was ment for Males as they will need it for fighting and travelinh and protecting their sisters,

]]> By: Mrs.M. http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-2814 Mrs.M. Thu, 17 May 2007 01:10:56 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-2814 Islam is the religion of moderation It is sunnah to learn to swim-and ride horses...can one ride easily with a traditional abaya on?Would the horse be spooked due to flapping loose fabric when moving to the horse,getting on the horse and in the wind(likely)? Can the average everday Muslimah expect to stay in a totally private or segregated area to do any type of exercise such as jogging/riding/boating/windsurfing/mountain climbing/walking briskly,etc like in a mutimillionaire's compound? I wonder if private swimming pools were available in those "old days" or if it is common and accessible to the avergae Muslimah as a way to get regular exercise and recreation. Aisha(r.a)is said to have raced with her husband-she perhaps could have had a garment or wear the garment in such a way that didnt trip her while running? Can very modest Islamically correct work or exercise clothing be a worn or is it unacceptable due to cultural norms rather than sunnah dictates? Are we putting more importance on our individual culture's say on what is appropriate than what our religion teaches? Should the ummah be concerned if more deadly obesity and diabetes(heart disease/depression/osteoporosis due to lack of activity) are affecting the Muslimahs and hence their children as well due to inaccessibility of appropriate and available opprtunities for exercise, especially outdoors when weather permits to get fresh air and sunlight?Hmmm....... It is true many areas where it is common to get fresh air/exercise/healthful recreation(as well as shopping and riding a car or walking to work or mosque/friends/family) is often frequented by modern Westernized persons who often clad themselves immodestly and may have immoral behaviour. In addition there are often large numbers of families attending who are non-muslim and are not seen acting out immoral activities except for their culturally normal dress for themselves. do those factors put it off limits for Muslims as well as Muslimahs to be anywhere in that area even if they are not doing that behaviour?At what precentage of that type of dress and or observable or perceived behaviour do we call it off limits? Obviously a bar or nightclub is the extreme example where a Muslim really has no need to attend as the main attraction is lewd behaviour/drinking and illicit sexual relationships-often a sign of the environment of this type is no children are allowed there. Just some thoughts. Islam is the religion of moderation
It is sunnah to learn to swim-and ride horses…can one ride easily with a traditional abaya on?Would the horse be spooked due to flapping loose fabric when moving to the horse,getting on the horse and in the wind(likely)? Can the average everday Muslimah expect to stay in a totally private or segregated area to do any type of exercise such as jogging/riding/boating/windsurfing/mountain climbing/walking briskly,etc like in a mutimillionaire’s compound? I wonder if private swimming pools were available in those “old days” or if it is common and accessible to the avergae Muslimah as a way to get regular exercise and recreation. Aisha(r.a)is said to have raced with her husband-she perhaps could have had a garment or wear the garment in such a way that didnt trip her while running? Can very modest Islamically correct work or exercise clothing be a worn or is it unacceptable due to cultural norms rather than sunnah dictates? Are we putting more importance on our individual culture’s say on what is appropriate than what our religion teaches? Should the ummah be concerned if more deadly obesity and diabetes(heart disease/depression/osteoporosis due to lack of activity) are affecting the Muslimahs and hence their children as well due to inaccessibility of appropriate and available opprtunities for exercise, especially outdoors when weather permits to get fresh air and sunlight?Hmmm…….
It is true many areas where it is common to get fresh air/exercise/healthful recreation(as well as shopping and riding a car or walking to work or mosque/friends/family) is often frequented by modern Westernized persons who often clad themselves immodestly and may have immoral behaviour. In addition there are often large numbers of families attending who are non-muslim and are not seen acting out immoral activities except for their culturally normal dress for themselves.
do those factors put it off limits for Muslims as well as Muslimahs to be anywhere in that area even if they are not doing that behaviour?At what precentage of that type of dress and or observable or perceived behaviour do we call it off limits? Obviously a bar or nightclub is the extreme example where a Muslim really has no need to attend as the main attraction is lewd behaviour/drinking and illicit sexual relationships-often a sign of the environment of this type is no children are allowed there. Just some thoughts.

]]> By: saman http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-2014 saman Sun, 22 Apr 2007 05:54:30 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-2014 no wonder leaders in middle east guards us like sheeps no wonder leaders in middle east guards us like sheeps

]]> By: saman http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-2013 saman Sun, 22 Apr 2007 05:53:20 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-2013 you guys have way much time to waste!!! people are dying in hundreds in Iraq, and your arguing on whoi should or shouldn't go to the beach? grow up you guys have way much time to waste!!! people are dying in hundreds in Iraq, and your arguing on whoi should or shouldn’t go to the beach?

grow up

]]> By: Aisha http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-2011 Aisha Sun, 22 Apr 2007 04:15:40 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-2011 In response to comments about "Western Filth" didn't belly dancing originate in the Middle East? In response to comments about “Western Filth” didn’t belly dancing originate in the Middle East?

]]> By: Altavista http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-1978 Altavista Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:26:56 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-1978 Read this for another view: http://www.sunnisisters.com/?p=2289 Read this for another view:

http://www.sunnisisters.com/?p=2289

]]> By: Umm Layth http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-1899 Umm Layth Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:24:59 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-1899 Ya Ilahi. Some of us were raised in the west, brought up catholic/christian. Would you tell white americans to go back to the east for speaking out against their country, like MANY do so? Instead of calling people away from obeying Allaah, call them to good. Even some christians are smarter than that. Ya Ilahi.

Some of us were raised in the west, brought up catholic/christian. Would you tell white americans to go back to the east for speaking out against their country, like MANY do so?

Instead of calling people away from obeying Allaah, call them to good. Even some christians are smarter than that.

]]> By: rob http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-1895 rob Thu, 19 Apr 2007 05:55:11 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-1895 every one lightn up , let the muslim women wear what they want and enough with this crap burkeni bikini who cares . they are a lot of beautiful muslim women out there but some real ugly ones too , that even if they were naked at the beach no one would even look , and as for the sunnah and sharia we need some people who been there and done that to truly study and explain it the right way not the way its done now where everyone is a saint and knows what this verse and that verse realy means . and seperation of mosque and state is a brilliant idea . and for those who think the west is bad , filthy and evil go back east and stop shoving your ideas down peoples throats. to the muslim women rebel a little and the hell with the burkini wear a bikini if you can carry it , god will not punish you for it . lets move into the 21st century people culturally and religiously . lets make refirigrators , cars , tvs and feed ourselves and all this debate will be reduced to isolated chanels like the 700 club and jesus camps. wasalam alikum every one lightn up , let the muslim women wear what they want and enough with this crap burkeni bikini who cares . they are a lot of beautiful muslim women out there but some real ugly ones too , that even if they were naked at the beach no one would even look , and as for the sunnah and sharia we need some people who been there and done that to truly study and explain it the right way not the way its done now where everyone is a saint and knows what this verse and that verse realy means . and seperation of mosque and state is a brilliant idea . and for those who think the west is bad , filthy and evil go back east and stop shoving your ideas down peoples throats.
to the muslim women rebel a little and the hell with the burkini wear a bikini if you can carry it , god will not punish you for it . lets move into the 21st century people culturally and religiously . lets make refirigrators , cars , tvs and feed ourselves and all this debate will be reduced to isolated chanels like the 700 club and jesus camps.
wasalam alikum

]]> By: BintMuhammed http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-1125 BintMuhammed Sun, 01 Apr 2007 00:43:20 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/29/soccers-hijab-maybe-but-saunas-and-hijab/#comment-1125 Assalamualaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh Lilia if your mahram was with you, how could these men do what they did to you. I dont ask this in a rude way but rather to understand and comprehend the situation you were in. What would give these men the right to do that while your mahram was present? I know a sister telling me that this is what happens in a specific muslim country (which i shall not mention) but she said they did this to girls if they were walking to the supermarket or in an alley by themselves or without a mahram. Wasalamualaykum Wasalamualaykum Assalamualaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

Lilia if your mahram was with you, how could these men do what they did to you. I dont ask this in a rude way but rather to understand and comprehend the situation you were in. What would give these men the right to do that while your mahram was present?

I know a sister telling me that this is what happens in a specific muslim country (which i shall not mention) but she said they did this to girls if they were walking to the supermarket or in an alley by themselves or without a mahram.

Wasalamualaykum

Wasalamualaykum

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