Comments on: Is CAIR Suing Passengers (in the Imams’ Case)? http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/28/is-cair-suing-passengers-the-imams-case/ Discourses in the Intellectual Traditions, Political Situation, and Social Ethics of Muslim Life Tue, 22 May 2012 19:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: muslimmatters.org » “Preliminary Victory” In Imams’ Suit Against US Airways http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/28/is-cair-suing-passengers-the-imams-case/#comment-9761 muslimmatters.org » “Preliminary Victory” In Imams’ Suit Against US Airways Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:57:20 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/28/is-cair-suing-passengers-the-imams-case/#comment-9761 [...] Is CAIR Suing Passengers (in the Imams’ Case)? [...] [...] Is CAIR Suing Passengers (in the Imams’ Case)? [...]

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]]> By: Affad Shaikh http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/28/is-cair-suing-passengers-the-imams-case/#comment-1112 Affad Shaikh Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:11:41 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/28/is-cair-suing-passengers-the-imams-case/#comment-1112 Salaam, Its funny, maybe all of you know, but today a Neo-KKK group of dead beat ignorant folks will be protesting in front of CAIR offices. They will be hanging an effigey of Osma Bin Laden and "throwing shoes at him" its "great family fun so bring your kids" to the nearest CAIR office. Thought people might get a kick out of the fact that they are protesting on a Saturday when no one is working at the CAIR offices. But hey, they do have day jobs. Salaam,

Its funny, maybe all of you know, but today a Neo-KKK group of dead beat ignorant folks will be protesting in front of CAIR offices. They will be hanging an effigey of Osma Bin Laden and “throwing shoes at him” its “great family fun so bring your kids” to the nearest CAIR office.

Thought people might get a kick out of the fact that they are protesting on a Saturday when no one is working at the CAIR offices. But hey, they do have day jobs.

]]> By: In Pursuit of Justice http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/28/is-cair-suing-passengers-the-imams-case/#comment-863 In Pursuit of Justice Thu, 29 Mar 2007 06:00:29 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/28/is-cair-suing-passengers-the-imams-case/#comment-863 AnonyMouse, I believe this is the ayah you are refering to: "O you who have believed, if there comes to you a disobedient one with information, investigate, lest you harm a people out of ignorance and become, over what you have done, regretful." [49:6] AnonyMouse, I believe this is the ayah you are refering to:

“O you who have believed, if there comes to you a disobedient one with information, investigate, lest you harm a people out of ignorance and become, over what you have done, regretful.” [49:6]

]]> By: Amad http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/28/is-cair-suing-passengers-the-imams-case/#comment-859 Amad Thu, 29 Mar 2007 02:27:09 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/28/is-cair-suing-passengers-the-imams-case/#comment-859 Good question Amir. I think the first step is to prove that a false report was made... that would involve witnesses under oath. For instance, if a passenger claimed that Imams were making anti-American chants, and other passengers (all under oath) disagree, then you could have a case of false report being proven in court. Intent to discriminate would be a subjective question, probably based on reactions and answers by accused (if they take the stand) to cross-questioning by attorneys. However, I could ask the same question of any discrimination case. How do you ever prove intent, which resides in the person's heart, except by the consequences of the intent, i.e. actions that clearly contradict the standards of normal behavior? Good question Amir. I think the first step is to prove that a false report was made… that would involve witnesses under oath. For instance, if a passenger claimed that Imams were making anti-American chants, and other passengers (all under oath) disagree, then you could have a case of false report being proven in court.

Intent to discriminate would be a subjective question, probably based on reactions and answers by accused (if they take the stand) to cross-questioning by attorneys. However, I could ask the same question of any discrimination case. How do you ever prove intent, which resides in the person’s heart, except by the consequences of the intent, i.e. actions that clearly contradict the standards of normal behavior?

]]> By: Moiez http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/28/is-cair-suing-passengers-the-imams-case/#comment-857 Moiez Thu, 29 Mar 2007 02:18:44 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/28/is-cair-suing-passengers-the-imams-case/#comment-857 I think I watched a clip on these imams on the news i forget which station but they did a pretty good job at explaining themselves. Just another thing that makes a person frustrated I think I watched a clip on these imams on the news i forget which station but they did a pretty good job at explaining themselves. Just another thing that makes a person frustrated

]]> By: Amir http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/28/is-cair-suing-passengers-the-imams-case/#comment-854 Amir Thu, 29 Mar 2007 02:11:22 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/28/is-cair-suing-passengers-the-imams-case/#comment-854 <blockquote>The only individuals against whom suit may be raised in this litigation are those who may have knowingly made false reports against the imams with the intent to discriminate against them.</blockquote> How can it ever be proven that a particular person made a report with an "intent to discriminate"? It seems a strange area to be wading into because whilst the act (making a report) can be proven, it is very difficult to prove bad intent.

The only individuals against whom suit may be raised in this litigation are those who may have knowingly made false reports against the imams with the intent to discriminate against them.

How can it ever be proven that a particular person made a report with an “intent to discriminate”? It seems a strange area to be wading into because whilst the act (making a report) can be proven, it is very difficult to prove bad intent.

]]> By: AnonyMouse http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/28/is-cair-suing-passengers-the-imams-case/#comment-838 AnonyMouse Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:39:00 +0000 http://muslimmatters.org/2007/03/28/is-cair-suing-passengers-the-imams-case/#comment-838 Subhan'Allah, that totally sucks :S It also reminds me of an aayah in the Qur'an that tells us to double-check our sources - can anyone remember what the exact aayah is? Subhan’Allah, that totally sucks :S
It also reminds me of an aayah in the Qur’an that tells us to double-check our sources – can anyone remember what the exact aayah is?

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